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It says that whole area will be roadway by next year.
News Former PM Abe assassinated during campaign speech in Nara
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I saw that, but it doesn't really make any sense, not unless the other side of that cross road turns into a road or something. Its a small parking lot or taxi/bus stand right now.
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The Nara District Prosecutor's Office has decided to indict Yamagami Tetsuya, 42, for fatally shooting former PM Abe following a psychiatric evaluation. The period of his detention will expire on 10 January.
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Prosecutors to indict Abe shooter after psychiatric evaluation - The Mainichi
NARA (Kyodo) -- Prosecutors have decided to indict the man accused of fatally shooting former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in July following a p
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Today, Yamagami Tetsuya was transferred back to Nara following the end of his psychiatric evaluation at the Osaka Detention House. A formal murder charge is expected to be filed by 13 January, when the detention period for Yamagami ends.
Asahi Shinbun reported that the police learned of Yamagami's grudges against the Unification Church on the day of Abe's shooting but did not disclose that fact during a news conference held on the same evening, referring simply to a "certain group." In criminal cases, suspects are allowed to make a statement soon after police explain why they are arrested. Yamagami admitted to the shooting during police questioning at the Nara-Nishi Police Station, to which he was taken immediately after his arrest.
Asahi Shinbun reported that the police learned of Yamagami's grudges against the Unification Church on the day of Abe's shooting but did not disclose that fact during a news conference held on the same evening, referring simply to a "certain group." In criminal cases, suspects are allowed to make a statement soon after police explain why they are arrested. Yamagami admitted to the shooting during police questioning at the Nara-Nishi Police Station, to which he was taken immediately after his arrest.
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While in detention, Mr Yamagami received a steady stream of money, letters, and gifts. So many that the Osaka Detention House, where Yamagami underwent a psychiatric evaluation for five and a half months, ran out of space. The amount of money sent has exceeded 1 million JPY.
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Some of the JW discussion was moved here.
Just bringing it back to the topic at hand, the cult that exploited a young Dr. Hassan is the very same church whose cultish control, destroying families, and meddling in politics have led to this terrible assassination. Directly and indirectly there's blood on their hands.
Just bringing it back to the topic at hand, the cult that exploited a young Dr. Hassan is the very same church whose cultish control, destroying families, and meddling in politics have led to this terrible assassination. Directly and indirectly there's blood on their hands.
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A second-generation JW interviewed in Osaka by Mainichi Shinbun expresses empathy with the accused Abe assassin:
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I notice when a horrible killer who deserves death 10 times over is put to death here in the US , there are usually a big crowd demanding mercy for them.
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If they did it like Japan there wouldn't be any crowds. They don't tell you until after they've done it.
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The Economist just published a new article on the subject in which they argue that in Japan, political violence looks worryingly effective: Abe Shinzo's assassin achieved his political goals
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The fact someone is on death row is known though, and so people do protest even without a date of execution.
What really makes Japan different is the HUGE blind spot Japanese tend to have with the difference between suspected and guilty (not that they are alone...many in the U.S. gov with their drones of death are also blind).
It is phenomenal that people are looking at the circumstances that led to this man's lashing out and taking his side to the point that they are openly supporting him....though it seems little doubt among them that he did do the crime.
But whatever anyone says about that, it makes more sense than war, when leaders with grudges get people who know nothing ot the other to go kill strangers. And war is still a common enough thing.
Here we have a leader among many who did nothing about the many crooks and laws that support crooks and it seems that he was benefitting from the crookery on top of it. And this guy's victimhood was extreme.
It seems the people are getting sick of being lied to and stolen from and are sending a message. I hope the politicians get the right message and decide to straighten up. What they usually do is try to turn the thumb screws tighter to protect what they see as their entitlements, which is our wealth and blood.
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I was under the impression that it was effective everywhere.
The problem is that governments not only monopolize it, but utilize it, same with the laws and legal system, and leave ordinary people no real choice. They may educate us otherwise, but some people figure this out eventually.
Meanwhile, governments prosecute wars for political hegemony and profiteering, but that runs somewhere between okay and unfortunate. Yeah...not having that. I don't do double standards.
Are you sure most want mercy rather than most wanting an end to the death penalty? Every developed nation has stopped with that hypocrisy except the U.S., and even then a lot of states have also stopped.
As I said above, it is the state monopolizing violence. It doesn't wash.
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Next Saturday will be the first anniversary of Abe's assassination. Nikkei looked back at the events and the fact that the scandal surrounding the LDP and the Unification Church still lingers. Meanwhile, Mr Yamagami hasn't even had a pretrial hearing. It seems as if no one is willing to burn their fingers.
Paywall alert:
asia.nikkei.com
Paywall alert:
Japan's Unification Church scandal lingers a year after Abe death
4 things to know about the group's enduring links to the LDP and their impact
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Thanks for the update @thomas ... I remember a few of Murakami's books had some weird cults in them, and an unnamed church was prominently featured in IQ84, as I recall... I wonder how much inspiration he took from the unification church, or if there are any other religious organizations that have sunk their fingers into the political scene in Japan...Next Saturday will be the first anniversary of Abe's assassination. Nikkei looked back at the events and the fact that the scandal surrounding the LDP and the Unification Church still lingers. Meanwhile, Mr Yamagami hasn't even had a pretrial hearing. It seems as if no one is willing to burn their fingers.
Paywall alert:
Japan's Unification Church scandal lingers a year after Abe death
4 things to know about the group's enduring links to the LDP and their impact
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It's utterly mind-boggling how slowly the wheels of justice are grinding in this case: a psychiatric evaluation of the man accused of fatally shooting former PM Abe has determined him mentally fit to be held criminally responsible for his actions, sources close to the matter said Wednesday.
The defence for Tetsuya Yamagami did not contest the evaluation results, which had been conducted at the prosecutor's request, and effectively deferred a request for another evaluation, the sources said. The trial of Yamagami, 43, who was arrested for the shooting in July 2022 in the western city of Nara, is now expected to focus on how he grew up, as well as the lethality of the homemade gun he used in the incident. A date for the first hearing has yet to be determined.
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The defence for Tetsuya Yamagami did not contest the evaluation results, which had been conducted at the prosecutor's request, and effectively deferred a request for another evaluation, the sources said. The trial of Yamagami, 43, who was arrested for the shooting in July 2022 in the western city of Nara, is now expected to focus on how he grew up, as well as the lethality of the homemade gun he used in the incident. A date for the first hearing has yet to be determined.
Psychiatric exam finds ex-Japan PM Abe shooter mentally fit
A psychiatric evaluation of the man accused of fatally shooting former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has determined him mentally fit to be held criminally responsible for his actions, sources close to the matter said Wednesday.
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This seems like a likely capital offense, I don't think he has much of a defense if his state of mind isn't questioned. I'd like to see the cult put on trialIt's utterly mind-boggling how slowly the wheels of justice are grinding in this case: a psychiatric evaluation of the man accused of fatally shooting former PM Abe has determined him mentally fit to be held criminally responsible for his actions, sources close to the matter said Wednesday.
The defence for Tetsuya Yamagami did not contest the evaluation results, which had been conducted at the prosecutor's request, and effectively deferred a request for another evaluation, the sources said. The trial of Yamagami, 43, who was arrested for the shooting in July 2022 in the western city of Nara, is now expected to focus on how he grew up, as well as the lethality of the homemade gun he used in the incident. A date for the first hearing has yet to be determined.
Psychiatric exam finds ex-Japan PM Abe shooter mentally fit
A psychiatric evaluation of the man accused of fatally shooting former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has determined him mentally fit to be held criminally responsible for his actions, sources close to the matter said Wednesday.
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So do I. I guess the cult's involvement and the implications for the ruling LDP make prosecutors tread extremely cautiously.
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I'd like to have a word with the Kyodo reporter who wrote the above. The trial will focus on his upbringing? Is his upbringing on trial? The trial will focus on the crime, I imagine, and the defense may possibly try to convince the judges that Yamagami's childhood had some sort of effect that might mitigate the punishment, but "The trial is expected to focus on how he grew up" sounds like bad journalism. Also, the lethality of the gun would seem to be a moot point. The gun worked, and the former PM is dead due to the gunshot. How could you argue that the gun wasn't lethal?
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The Asahi Shimbun interviewed Abe Akie, the wife of former PM Abe, on the occasion of the second anniversary of her husband's slaying.
The former first lady described what transpired on that day and her feelings toward the suspected murderer. She also touched on a political scandal in which her name came up. Akie said she had not accepted an interview request until now because she said she "would cry." She also said she was unaware of any deep involvement between her husband and the Unification Church.
Here's the original article in Japanese:
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I never knew Akie opposed many of her husband's policies. She was supportive of the LGBT movement in Japan, participating in the Tokyo gay pride parade 2014, and promoted the revival of cannabis culture in Japan.
The former first lady described what transpired on that day and her feelings toward the suspected murderer. She also touched on a political scandal in which her name came up. Akie said she had not accepted an interview request until now because she said she "would cry." She also said she was unaware of any deep involvement between her husband and the Unification Church.
Here's the original article in Japanese:
恨む気持ち、持ちたくない 安倍元首相銃撃２年、昭恵氏に聞く：朝日新聞デジタル
安倍晋三元首相が２０２２年７月、奈良市で街頭演説中に銃撃を受け、死去して間もなく２年。妻の昭恵氏（６２）が取材に応じ、「あっという間でした」などと心境を語った。「森友学園」の問題なども聞いた。 昭恵…
I never knew Akie opposed many of her husband's policies. She was supportive of the LGBT movement in Japan, participating in the Tokyo gay pride parade 2014, and promoted the revival of cannabis culture in Japan.
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I'm honestly amazed how they managed to stay together in a loving and caring marriage while being on both sides of the fence opinionwise. She never felt like the shrinking violet many wives of Japanese politician do. I've heard her say something to the extent of being a sort of domestic opposition party to him which I think is incredible. They must have truly loved one another to be able to talk amicably about their differences on politics with such opposing views. I'm quite impressed they made it work. I'm not confident, I would be able to do the same.
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After a long while, some news on Mr Yamagami and his defence strategy: reportedly, the prosecutors are not happy to examine the role of the Unification Church, arguing that "the maliciousness of the crime itself should be examined and that there was no need to take a closer look at the influence of religion."
The trial is not expected to start until "after autumn."
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According to NHK, the trial of Yamagami Tetsuya for fatally shooting former PM Abe with a homemade gun will start on 28 October, with a verdict likely in January 2026.
japantoday.com
I still wonder why it took the prosecution over 3 years to prepare such a clear-cut case.
Trial of former PM Abe’s accused killer expected to begin on Oct 28
The trial of a man accused of assassinating former Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in 2022 is expected to begin on Oct 28, sources at the Nara District Court said on Thursday. Tetsuya Yamagami, 44, is accused of fatally shooting Abe with a homemade gun while he gave a speech at…
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I still wonder why it took the prosecution over 3 years to prepare such a clear-cut case.
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I am waiting to see what will be the jury's verdict. The verdict will show, how the Japanese judiciary judges in this case.
If the murderer is sentenced to a short period of imprisonment, I will doubt that the assassination was a madly personal decision, and if he is sentenced to death, justice will be served.
Of course, as I pointed out before, the life of the murderer is in the hand of Abe's family. If they forgive the killer, he will be released from the prison without any penalty (aside from the Japanese judiciary laws), and if Abe's family request, "blood against blood", the jury is not rightful to change or overturn the retribution.
If the murderer is sentenced to a short period of imprisonment, I will doubt that the assassination was a madly personal decision, and if he is sentenced to death, justice will be served.
Of course, as I pointed out before, the life of the murderer is in the hand of Abe's family. If they forgive the killer, he will be released from the prison without any penalty (aside from the Japanese judiciary laws), and if Abe's family request, "blood against blood", the jury is not rightful to change or overturn the retribution.
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I'm sorry, Agha Mansoor, but that's not how modern jurisdiction works. Whether the victim's family forgives the accused has no bearing on the court case.
