to iu kasa

[fuma_kamui]

hello everybody,
i would like to know wath does 'toyukasa or tekasa' means.☝

i heard a lot of time this two words, but i can't use it as i don't understand the sens...

thanks for your help

 

[undrentide]

hello everybody,
i would like to know wath does 'toyukasa or tekasa' means.☝
i heard a lot of time this two words, but i can't use it as i don't understand the sens...
thanks for your help

Ah, no wonder you don't understand these words, because they actually mean almost nothing!

Originally, it was used to rephrase something like "in otherwords" or "rather";
e.g.
xxxx toiuyori, mushiro, yyy dearu.
it is rather yyy than xxx.
(toiuka is colloquial form of toiuyori)
xxx part also can be quotation from other's statement.

A: zzz wa xxxx da.
B: ...toiuka, sorewa yyy janai?

This latter usage was somehow started being used at the beginning of conversation by young people several years ago.
To me it sounds abrupt (makes me wonder "what are you referring to?") but now it's quite commonly used espcially when they want to change the topic or just when they want to say something (regardless the new statement is relevent or not to its preceding conversation/topic/sentence, whatsoever).

"sa" is suffix making the sentence very casual (OK for using among friends but not very good when you want to be polite), "teka" is contracted form of "toiuka".

 

[tanhql]

I've heard と言う事 and ってことは very frequently on Japanese anime. do they mean the same thing as you have explained?

 

[fuma_kamui]

good explaination!! arigato!

i understand better now!!


i try to use it tomorow, i will say you how it was (sorry for my poor english...)​

 

[undrentide]

I've heard と言う事 and ってことは very frequently on Japanese anime. do they mean the same thing as you have explained?

No, they are different.
ということは/ってことは means "that means...", normally referring to what the speaker has just heard/seen/read, etc.

 

[kamaru]

Silly question:

こんにちは ,
I've been studying japanese for a while and yet I haven't encountered the word chopsticks ever .. can someone tell me the translation of the word in 日本語...
thnks in advance ...

 

[undrentide]

こんにちは ,
I've been studying japanese for a while and yet I haven't encountered the word chopsticks ever .. can someone tell me the translation of the word in 日本語...
thanks in advance ...

こんにちは。
Do you mean you want to know the Japanese word for chopsticks?
If so, it is 箸（はし）.

:gohan:
By the way, we are always supposed to use hashi with your right hand, while holding a rice bowl in your left hand.
So when little children are confused which is "right" and which is "left", grown-ups tell them
おはしを持つのが右、おちゃわんを持つのが左ですよ
(The hand to hold chopsticks is right, and the one to hold the rice bowl is left).
But this does not apply to a lefty, come to think of it...

 

[kamaru]

どもありがとう undrentideちゃん ...
That was exactly what I was looking for and the info is gr8 too ..

 

[fuma_kamui]

箸 橋 足。。。(はし hashi, はし hashi, あし ashi）
the japanese language is so easy (irony)

​

 

[undrentide]

箸 橋 足。。。(はし hashi, はし hashi, あし ashi）
the japanese language is so easy (irony)

Hahaha....
You can judge which is which by intonation, still it really is confusing...

hashi
箸 chopsticks ha(H) shi(L)
橋 bridge ha(L) shi(H)
端 end, edge, margin, marge, verge ha(L) shi(H)

ashi
足 foot a(L) shi (H)
葦 reed a (H) shi (L)

ame
雨 rain a (L) me (H)
飴 boild sweet a (H) me (L)

*L = low, H = high
橋 and 端 is the same, but there's difference when a particle is added:

端が ha(L) shi(H) ga(H)
橋が ha(L) shi(H) ga(L)

 

[fuma_kamui]

yeah, now i know, but my first time in japan were quite confused

 

[undrentide]

Since intonation can be different depending on area, even natives are sometimes not sure and ask "which one"?

 

[nhk9]

Don't get bogged down too much by the accent variations of different words. Just make sure you learn the simple ones like kami and hashi. For the rest, if the listener doesn't get what you say, just say that you were using another dialect

Ah, no wonder you don't understand these words, because they actually mean almost nothing!
Originally, it was used to rephrase something like "in otherwords" or "rather";
e.g.
xxxx toiuyori, mushiro, yyy dearu.
it is rather yyy than xxx.
(toiuka is colloquial form of toiuyori)
xxx part also can be quotation from other's statement.
A: zzz wa xxxx da.
B: ...toiuka, sorewa yyy janai?
This latter usage was somehow started being used at the beginning of conversation by young people several years ago.
To me it sounds abrupt (makes me wonder "what are you referring to?") but now it's quite commonly used espcially when they want to change the topic or just when they want to say something (regardless the new statement is relevant or not to its preceding conversation/topic/sentence, whatsoever).
"sa" is suffix making the sentence very casual (OK for using among friends but not very good when you want to be polite), "teka" is contracted form of "toiuka".

I have heard from somewhere that "tte iu ka" is used more often by female. Would it be acceptable for males to use this as well? I have heard men use a rougher version "つうか"

 

[fuma_kamui]

i don't know for te iu ka, but for te yu ka sa (maybe the 'sa make the difference???), i heard a lot of boy and girl...

 

[undrentide]

I have heard from somewhere that "tte iu ka" is used more often by female. Would it be acceptable for males to use this as well? I have heard men use a rougher version "つうか"

っていうか、
ってか、
っちゅうか、
っつうか、
(っ sometimes omitted but does not make difference)

All the above have the same meaning.
I often hear っていうか used by both male and female, so no problem you say it yourself.

Adding さ to the above does not add any meaning.
It just makes it a little more casual (as it is already very casual).