Who was it that said, "I take criticism well" ?Mycernius said:Sounds like a good time to me. Frank would definitely like it, as long as she has long black hair.
(I'm tired and in a silly mood :nuts: )
please don't tell me to relax. It's the tension that holds me together. And that is the truth !?! ;-)deadhippo said:relax everybody
lexico said:Whoever is behind the username japangirlstriksback, (s)he is quite intelligent, and as opinionated as anyone; judging from her (?) English, (s)he is either American-born nissei with a bad mouth or a Japanese compatriot who spent a lot of time with Americans for sure. (S)he might have picked up the Americanisms by an extended time of online chatting although I doubt the possibility; grammar, less some sloppiness which can be explained by spontaneous, hurried posting, is at an either native or near-native level imo. Her ideas are way to Americanised to be considered someone who learned the language after 12 or 13; in conclusion, she grew up in the US in all likelihood, and that is why her arguments and counter arguments are to the point and piercing the most vulnerable points of remarks made by native English speakers. She might be a bit opinionated, and has a bad mouth, but her arguments are as good as any made by an average native speaker. She is probably not a troll, but a Japanese person or a sympathiser who is very upset about unfriendly remarks from foreigners.
One last point about her trollishness:This recurring line, at first, appears like an insult in post no. 1, but in fact must be the thread topic or quote on which she is commenting. Once that can be seen, the trollishness seems much less than what it was on first impression.
nurizeko said:This Japangirlstrikesback sounds nothnig more then a racist, xenophobe, who obviously thinks any gaijin in japan shouldnt have rights, and at the best, not be there at all.
she refers to all wives of foreign nationals in japan as "roppongi slappers", suffice to say im going to assume that isnt a nice place or name
She's mostly ignorable but yeah, i didnt enjoy the fact she had collectivly labelled all the wives and partners of foreign nationals, mine included, as being some kind of **** i assume.
nurizeko said:i assumed a roppongi, was either a place of stereotypical ill repute, or some japanese for use against women of not very well repute.
Suffice to say she was calling the japanese wives and partners of foreigners, prostitutes
nurizeko said:Sounds a good place for a bit of harmless evenings entertainment with a few mates sometime, lol.
As for japanese girls being scared, my girlfriend wont even sit on grass, infact, she wont go anywhere without some kind of footwear and she's scared of bumble bee's....BUMBLE BEES!
Mars Man said:It's nice to get some inside info on the Tokyo area. I've spent little time there after dark, and am both curious and very cautious.
Getting back to deadhippo, when I, at least, had brought up the opinion that context was important, I had specifically had the whole, both that to which the writer had been responding and his/hers. If we could see the entire flow (context) we may be able to get a better picture of what it is, how fair and proper it is, etc. In such situations, context is very important.
deadhippo said:with a little bit of effort you can indeed find the threads, some of which i read
i didnt read them all of course and couldnt find some of the threads but i think taken out of context they have pretty much the same effectMars Man said:Thanks for the tip. Actually, I'm not computer-friendly enough to be able to do such things. How was the big picture; in your opinion?
deadhippo said:i didnt read them all of course and couldnt find some of the threads but i think taken out of context they have pretty much the same effect
i think she said some things that need to be said in order to restore some balance
whether i agree with her statements or not is an entirely different matter
although i have to admit i did agree with some of what she said
and find it hilarous that people are getting so defensive about it
May I say that (s)he has already struck a common cord of reason among us ? In that sense, I basically agree with you. No more blanket statements, but statements with properly applied, apt, descriptive qualifiers could vastly improve the many Japan related discussions on the board. Although the provocative tags of bashers and basher-bashers seem a bit aggressive, I get the gist of it.deadhippo said:NP,
what i meant by balance is that there are plenty of japan-bashers and not enough japan-basher bashers, not that i really approve of either i feel its about time somebody struck back rather than just defend japan
gives the japan bashers a taste of their own medicine maybe help them understand the indignation caused.
In my case, I wouldn't exactly call her my friend, but I get the sense of a worthy opponent with common topics of interest and a shared set of logical basics that would contribute to the quality of debate. For a Japanese debater, she happens to be the second who gives me that hope for progress where I will have less repetition, less guessing, but clearly defined gain or loss on the logical battle ground.but anyway, to be honest, i admire this japangirlstrikesback, whoever he or she is, i think with a wit and tongue as sharp as hers id like to be her friend