The Bourne Supremacy

[Duo]

I'm so exited about this upcoming film.

It's the sequel to amazing The Bourne Identity, released in 2002 starring Matt Damon. Both films are based on the series of best-selling authoer Robert Ludlum.
Below you can find the trailer and more info on The Bourne Supremacy:
The Bourne Supremacy

Anyways, what did you all think of the first film, and if you liked it, what do you anticipate this one to be just as good ? :?

 

[Duo]

Oh, sorry about posting this thread in this section, I didn't realize it until know,( this is a diff post fromt he first one, so if it unites all together it wasn't intented to)
If one of the moderators could politely move this thread into the movies section, I would appreciate it.
Thanks and sorry again

 

[Satori]

Hi Duo!

I stumbled upon this thread over in the Chit Chat section. Apparently, nobody moved this thread for you last June, so I moved it over here for you.

I loved both "The Bourne Identity" and "The Bourne Supremacy." I think I even liked the second film the best. How about you? Which one did you like the best? I wonder if production for the sequel "The Bourne Ultimatum" is already in the works. That should be next.

Robert Ludlum is my favorite spy novelist of all time. He's the best, IMO. I wish they'd make a movie for "The Matarese Circle" and "The Matarese Countdown." Have you ever read those books?

I was so sad when he died a few years ago. Have you visted his web site at: Robert Ludlum | Author ? It's pretty cool, although I notice that it is under construction right now.

 

[Duo]

Hi Duo!

I stumbled upon this thread over in the Chit Chat section. Apparently, nobody moved this thread for you last June, so I moved it over here for you.

I loved both "The Bourne Identity" and "The Bourne Supremacy." I think I even liked the second film the best. How about you? Which one did you like the best? I wonder if production for the sequel "The Bourne Ultimatum" is already in the works. That should be next.

Robert Ludlum is my favorite spy novelist of all time. He's the best, IMO. I wish they'd make a movie for "The Matarese Circle" and "The Matarese Countdown." Have you ever read those books?

I was so sad when he died a few years ago. Have you visted his web site at: Robert Ludlum | Author ? It's pretty cool, although I notice that it is under construction right now.

Thanks Satori,

I have yet to see the The Bourne Supremacy, my friends were evil and wanted to see the village , and so I am hoping to see it soon.

So I have ditched them and am going to see it tomorrow with somone else

Sadly, I have not read any of the Robert Ludlum's books, I only came across him after I had seen the first movie and did some reaserch. I hope that I can get to read the ones you reccomend, I'm sure that they will be great.

Anyways, I really loved the first movie, it was such a breath of fresh air after so many pointless spy movies. I'll tell you what I think of the second one after I see it, but I'm sure it's great.

 

[Satori]

Hi Duo,

I just realized that I gave you the wrong link to Robert Ludlum's site. Here is the correct link: http://www.ludlumbooks.com. You can read portions of some of Ludlum's newest releases at that site. Also, I notice that The Bourne Legacy has just been released. I'm not sure if Ludlum wrote that book, as some of his recent books have included collaborators and perhaps they wrote it following his death. If you look at his biography at the site, you will find a list of all of the books he authored. In any event, I'm sure it's good.

Here is what one reviewer had to say about Ludlum:

Ludlum's tension is breathless.... Nonstop action with the hero as both hunter and hunted as the fate of the world hangs in the balance.... There have been dozens of thriller writers over the past decade who have attempted to copy the Robert Ludlum formula, but none has the touch of the master. Ludlum can fill the simplest scene with more tension than all the screams in a horror movie.... His plotting is intricate, the timing precise ... Ludlum orchestrates a diabolical contest that uses the major cities of Europe like a chessboard. He plays for the highest stakes, and he makes the lover of thrillers come out the winner. - Richmond Times-Dispatch

And here is Ludlum on Ludlum:

Few writers have skyrocketed to popularity with the speed of Robert Ludlum, with each succeeding thriller becoming a bigger bestseller. The key to his success may lie in John Leonard's comment in The New York Times, "Mr. Ludlum stuffs more surprises into his novels than any other six-pack of thriller writers combined."

Some people claim Ludlum has secret sources for information found in his stories. In one, an early book, a key theme was CIA involvement in domestic surveillance. At that time the subject shocked many people. Later, of course, this fact proved to be correct. Other people suspect Ludlum was an agent himself during the years prior to his career as a novelist. Not true. For close to twenty years, he was in show business--as an actor, producer, and as the "voice" of dozens of television commercials for products ranging from Tiparillos to Tuna Helper.

During his "voice" period, Ludlum's wife crowned him "King of the Toilet Bowls." As he tells it, "there was this product called Plunge. All I had to do was read three words: Plunge works fast. In spite of my off-hand delivery, they used my three words in over one hundred different commercials. The money from this put one of my children through two years of college."

Although none of Ludlum's novels draws on his show business background for subject matter, they all reflect techniques he learned in the theater. Ludlum says, "the theater man knows that he must involve the audience. He understands structure more than anyone else--the logical evolving of one event into another event without losing the audience's attention. Because if you lose their interest, you're closing Saturday night."

Ludlum admits, "I write primarily as an entertainer. But I find that whether you're writing comically or dramatically, you write from a point of view of something that disturbs or outrages you. And that's what I do. I admit to being outraged--mostly by the abuse of power by the fanatics. The extremes bother me, right or left." Yet he adds, "I disapprove of violence, that's why I show pain for what it is. When my characters get hit, they hurt. They don't jump back into action like John Wayne."

When you visit the site, be sure to click on the info. for The Prometheus Deception. I was reading that book when 9/11 occurred, and the similarities were pretty scary. In fact, I thought the "Directorate" sounded a bit like the "Carlyle Group." :eek2: You can read the Prologue, as well as Chapter One, online at that site, so that will also give you an idea of his writing style.

You know, I have been on job interviews with law firms in the past where the interviewer and I discussed our favorite Ludlum novel! Lawyers just love him--and with good reason, IMO.

I'm looking forward to reading what you have to say about The Bourne Supremacy and whether you thought it was better than The Bourne Identity too.

 

[Duo]

Hi Satori,

Oh wow, was this movie great or what. It made going to the movies a worthwhile experience again, after all that junk they throw out there. Firstly, the movie is just shocking when you know who, in the begining at the car, you know what. Soo unexpected. This one was just very different from the first one, whereas the first one was clean, neat, and reflective with sudden awesome rapid bursts of action, this one was chaotic, dynamic, scrambled with a few moments of relaxations. Quite the opposite. The camera play in this one was also very very very different from the first one ; the fast shots and twisted angles I thought were adapt to this movie because the story here moved way faster. I'm not sure which one I like better, but I can't wait to own them both. Jason is a real monster in this one. Whereas he was just awakining in the first one, in here he is like I donna, this super duper genius with super duper crazy mad fighting skills. Don't you jus love it when he takes a 2.3 sec glance at the map and is on his way? The ending was also well done, a nice finishing touch, it concluded the story in a way by letting the wiewer wonde what's next, and alos left the door right open for the Bourne Ultimatum. ( hopefully they will make this one 2, although I don't see why not since the Bourne Supremacy was very successful at the Box office in the US, and is still number one over here.) And the music was still great, because it was from the first one. Overall, great movie, I reccomend all of you see it, and If you haven't seen the first one, The Bourne Identity, go and rent it QUIKKK.

 

[Satori]

I'm so glad you liked it too!! Some people were a little put off by all of the fast scene changes and closeup shots, but I loved it. I agree--both movies were different but also very good in their own way. This one had a lot of more action in it, I thought. Excellent!! I can't wait for the sequels!!

Let me know what you think of Ludlum's web site and also the prologue and first chapter to The Prometheus Deception, okay?

 

[Glenn]

I liked it, but I liked the first one better. One of the things that annoyed me about this movie was the "Blair Witch" camera style that they used during fight and chase scenes. I really hate when they do that. I want to see what's going on. If you trying to create a sense of chaos, then just roll camera. I think everyone gets the sense that things are pretty crazy just from the content. Then there was the scene that didn't need to be, in my opinion. It was the one when Jason goes to the girl's apartment in Russia. That just seemed cheesy out of place, and I think it could have been left out. Overall I would agree, though. It's an enjoyable movie and worth the watch.

 

[Satori]

I liked it, but I liked the first one better. One of the things that annoyed me about this movie was the "Blair Witch" camera style that they used during fight and chase scenes. I really hate when they do that. I want to see what's going on. If you trying to create a sense of chaos, then just roll camera. I think everyone gets the sense that things are pretty crazy just from the content. Then there was the scene that didn't need to be, in my opinion. It was the one when Jason goes to the girl's apartment in Russia. That just seemed cheesy out of place, and I think it could have been left out. Overall I would agree, though. It's an enjoyable movie and worth the watch.

The camera style was what other people had a real problem with too. They said it even gave them vertigo! After hearing that, I was a little hesitant to even see the movie, but I'm glad I did anyway. I didn't have too much of a problem with it, but I definitely know that you are not alone in not liking that part of the film.

 

[Duo]

I liked it, but I liked the first one better. One of the things that annoyed me about this movie was the "Blair Witch" camera style that they used during fight and chase scenes. I really hate when they do that. I want to see what's going on. If you trying to create a sense of chaos, then just roll camera. I think everyone gets the sense that things are pretty crazy just from the content. Then there was the scene that didn't need to be, in my opinion. It was the one when Jason goes to the girl's apartment in Russia. That just seemed cheesy out of place, and I think it could have been left out. Overall I would agree, though. It's an enjoyable movie and worth the watch.

Ah welll, hmm that is good movement to show the dynamic of the story and to make you feel as you are in the struggle. Things in such things are chaotic, fast moving, u can't see the picture clearly, u have to make the best of the chaos If i was the director I would explain it this way



Satori,

sorry for not replying earlier, but i have been swamped with schoolwork. THe prologue was pretty good. All these suspicous deaths, seemingy not related, but already givin us a hint about the army thing. THen the blood just spraying like that, 2 cool. I'm hooked already . Whats up with this bourne legacy thing, is it any good ?

 

[Keiichi]

There's a Bourne Legacy now?
When was The Bourne Ultimatum released in stores, btw? I'd be more interested, though I don't have much time to read. ^^'

Keiichi

 

[Duo]

Hm I don't know, a while ago I would say though.

 

[Satori]

There's a Bourne Legacy now?
When was The Bourne Ultimatum released in stores, btw? I'd be more interested, though I don't have much time to read. ^^'

Keiichi

Hi Keiichi,

The Bourne Ultimatum was written and released in 1990, so it's been out a while. The Bourne Supremacy was written and released in 1986, and I remember reading The Bourne Identity in 1981, so it was probably written and released shortly before that. So far, the first two books have been made into movies, and hopefully The Bourne Ultimatum will be next. I noticed that The Bourne Legacy is written by Eric Van Lustbader and is not a Robert Ludlum novel. However, it is advertised on Ludlum's web site, so I guess it has been approved. It also appears to have been released recently.

Satori,

sorry for not replying earlier, but i have been swamped with schoolwork. THe prologue was pretty good. All these suspicous deaths, seemingy not related, but already givin us a hint about the army thing. THen the blood just spraying like that, 2 cool. I'm hooked already . Whats up with this bourne legacy thing, is it any good?

I have no idea if The Bourne Legacy is any good, but I knew you would love Ludlum's writing style!! It's so hard to put one of his books down once you pick it up and start to read!! Did you also read Chapter One after the Prologue?

Oh, and let me know what you think of The Prometheus Deception as well!! (When you have the time, that is. No hurry, though!)

 

[Keiichi]

Hi Keiichi,
The Bourne Ultimatum was written and released in 1990, so it's been out a while. The Bourne Supremacy was written and released in 1986, and I remember reading The Bourne Identity in 1981, so it was probably written and released shortly before that. So far, the first two books have been made into movies, and hopefully The Bourne Ultimatum will be next. I noticed that The Bourne Legacy is written by Eric Van Lustbader and is not a Robert Ludlum novel. However, it is advertised on Ludlum's web site, so I guess it has been approved. It also appears to have been released recently.

Wow, I've never noticed they were that old. ☝ I don't know much about movies based off of books, but I'm guessing often books are re-released due to popularity of their movie counterparts, huh? Interesting. Thanks for the info!

Keiichi