shiroma
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Tokyo High Court Rejects Asahara's Appeal of Death Sentence (Mainichi)Hachiko said:
Court Rejects Appeal for Aum Founder (Yomiuri)
The Aum Shinrikyo Thread
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Why my reply be deleted?
Is that Japanese style of free speech?
your Japanese told the world again and again that
when a person die, he will immediately become deity and be
worshiped, no matter what he did during his lifetime.
your PM always use this as an excuse to explain his
shrine visit.
Am I wrong? I want your explanation.
Is that Japanese style of free speech?
your Japanese told the world again and again that
when a person die, he will immediately become deity and be
worshiped, no matter what he did during his lifetime.
your PM always use this as an excuse to explain his
shrine visit.
Am I wrong? I want your explanation.
Well, it sure took long enough for the trial and sentencing to finally reach this point, I dont think the courts would have had any other sentence than the one they gave him.
Finally the people's lives that were shattered by the sarin attack and the fear spread by Aum will get some closure. Unfortunately hanging isnt enough of a sentence in my opinion, but then again that's another thread or topic.
Something out of history, like the Spanish Inquisition, would probably be more appropriate in Matsumoto's case.
Finally the people's lives that were shattered by the sarin attack and the fear spread by Aum will get some closure. Unfortunately hanging isnt enough of a sentence in my opinion, but then again that's another thread or topic.
Something out of history, like the Spanish Inquisition, would probably be more appropriate in Matsumoto's case.
MajideSaiaku
tsuyaku o tsukete kudasai
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I wonder if he's enough of a nutjob to have a last word speech.
I'de rather he just rot in a prison but, he did a pretty horrible thing, anyone coulda been on the train, i coulda lost my girlfriend to that.
I guess in a way thats why its more personal then the london or madrid bombings for me, i dont go anywhere near london or madrid and i dont have family in london, well one but she has a car, but i could lost the most important person to me in the world, over a sick ****'s self delusion.
I hope he dies scared if he has to die at all, i dont want him to have the option of going out like a martyr.
I'de rather he just rot in a prison but, he did a pretty horrible thing, anyone coulda been on the train, i coulda lost my girlfriend to that.
I guess in a way thats why its more personal then the london or madrid bombings for me, i dont go anywhere near london or madrid and i dont have family in london, well one but she has a car, but i could lost the most important person to me in the world, over a sick ****'s self delusion.
I hope he dies scared if he has to die at all, i dont want him to have the option of going out like a martyr.
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In Holland "Death sentence" is forbidden. So I fully agree with my compatriot Dutch Baka: Put this type of idiots behind the prison bars for the rest of their lifes.
Minty
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I do not support capital punishment.
There have been people condemned of homicide, and then afterwards discovered to be not guilty. This evidences that judicature organization is not 100% correct. True, you may jail somebody unintentionally, but if a mistake is discovered it's more facile to free them than to upraise an already deceased person.
There have been people condemned of homicide, and then afterwards discovered to be not guilty. This evidences that judicature organization is not 100% correct. True, you may jail somebody unintentionally, but if a mistake is discovered it's more facile to free them than to upraise an already deceased person.
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Isn't death by hanging though...A bit medievil perhaps? Don't they have the lethal injection or electric chair?
In england it costs on average ﾂ≫??4,000 to keep each prisoner in prison, i'm sure its pretty expensive in japan as well, although prison would probably be a much better punishment, do you really think he's worth the money?
In england it costs on average ﾂ≫??4,000 to keep each prisoner in prison, i'm sure its pretty expensive in japan as well, although prison would probably be a much better punishment, do you really think he's worth the money?
I know I'm paying for the appeal and for his incarceration as well, I dont want it to be to the end of his natural life either. He could live to be a 100 it isnt worth it.Mycernius said:
Minty, that may be the case some where else but NOT here. If this guy was let free watch the Japanese people go on a rampage against the crimminal judiciary system. Oh Matsumoto would probably only last a few days at the most as chances are someone from the general public would murder him. In effect carrying out the "capital punishment".
If you were given the option of pulling the rope and being the exectutioner would you do it?
MajideSaiaku
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Ide rather he rot behind bars but i aint going to shed tears for his death either.
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Tokis-Phoenix said:
The electric chair was meant to be a more civilized/humane method of execution. In actuality, it turned out to be pretty barbaric. A properly conducted hanging (which Japan does not do, by the way), is almost certainly preferable to being cooked in the chair.
That being said, executions, if they are to be done at all, should be to some degree barbaric. In adopting lethal injection we have decided to be humane at the cost of being inhuman.
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Mike Cash said:
I suppose you are right about the electric chair, i have heard many cases of it failing very badly now that i think about it, but i don't agree that executions should be "to some degree barbaric". The need to induce suffering to one who has done wrong is a basic primitive human instinct in itself, how can we say we disagree with say, burning people at the stake or beheading them and stuff, when we still feel that it is nesarsary to induce suffering in execution? Its just a matter of who decides whats morally correct...In ghengis khans time, boiling people alive was one of the normal forms of execution for treason or murder and things, now days we call that horibly barbaric. But if we still believe execution should be at least barbaric to some degree, can we really look down on the methods of execution used in ghengis khans time morally? I don't think we can if we hold that way of thinking.
I am not worry, my posts were often deleted in Chinese forums toopipokun said:
But I believe to any forum the more tolerant the more popular.
back to Aum Shinrikyo affair,
religions can control people's thought like that, really terrible.
As an atheist, It is incomprehensible for me to see believers of
any religion kneel down in front of something out of thin air.
In the long history of human being, religions played a very negative
role, why people still worship their god who never be able to even
prove the existence of itself.
I have been a netizen for 10 years and access to thousands of forums
it is hard to say which kind of post is likely to be deleted.
different countries have different sensitive topics.
In Chinese forum, some toptics such as 1989.6.4 is forbidden
In Arabia forum, when you talk negative about their religion, you
will be banned,
In Japan, take this thread as example, when I doubt about dead-worshipping tradition in Japan, someone deleted my post
it is hard to say which kind of post is likely to be deleted.
different countries have different sensitive topics.
In Chinese forum, some toptics such as 1989.6.4 is forbidden
In Arabia forum, when you talk negative about their religion, you
will be banned,
In Japan, take this thread as example, when I doubt about dead-worshipping tradition in Japan, someone deleted my post
shiroma
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Oh yes...I'm sorry to hear that any posts were deleted. (unless the particular post was just too off in left-field)
Hanging, well, maybe, but lethal injection sounds better at least. (Anyway, I am not so much in favor of the death sentence. . .for the greater part, at least) This guy. . .? O.K.
Please don't forget that his followers did a trial run here in Matsumoto, Nagano, Japan too. I was here then, of course, and recall it well.
It had been on a Monday night. I had taught English at a hospital very near that location on that night. A couple of detectives came to visit me some three weeks later, asking a bunch of questions, showing me chemical diagrams of sarin--asking if I recognized them and such. Of course, I made it a friendly occasion with coffee and cookies, and kept it light. Also, of course, I knew nothing.
But, the police blundered that investigation, and blamed the wrong person too soon. (it looks good in the press, you know, to say they've got their man) The poor man's own wife had been hospitalized due to that attack, was in pretty bad shape, and this guy was held for a while. . .sad.
Some things I will never forget. All the helicopters flying in circles over the area the next day. The policeman sitting in the chair, on the road, in front of that man's house for at least up to two weeks. (I drove by there several times, and for whatever value they think it might have had, some officer was always sitting there...strange...)
Hanging, well, maybe, but lethal injection sounds better at least. (Anyway, I am not so much in favor of the death sentence. . .for the greater part, at least) This guy. . .? O.K.
Please don't forget that his followers did a trial run here in Matsumoto, Nagano, Japan too. I was here then, of course, and recall it well.
It had been on a Monday night. I had taught English at a hospital very near that location on that night. A couple of detectives came to visit me some three weeks later, asking a bunch of questions, showing me chemical diagrams of sarin--asking if I recognized them and such. Of course, I made it a friendly occasion with coffee and cookies, and kept it light. Also, of course, I knew nothing.
But, the police blundered that investigation, and blamed the wrong person too soon. (it looks good in the press, you know, to say they've got their man) The poor man's own wife had been hospitalized due to that attack, was in pretty bad shape, and this guy was held for a while. . .sad.
Some things I will never forget. All the helicopters flying in circles over the area the next day. The policeman sitting in the chair, on the road, in front of that man's house for at least up to two weeks. (I drove by there several times, and for whatever value they think it might have had, some officer was always sitting there...strange...)
