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A pretty big item in Japan now;





Some pretty crazy stuff if you ask me, tomorrow is the day, I hope nothing will happen but it sure realizes Japan even more that they have to change certain things in their Education system!! (or are it the bloody moms who shouldn't spoil their sweet kids)
 
Mmm... I never understood why people get like this, when people pissed me off I just kicked the **** out of them, works wonders in shutting people up.
 
Heh.
I don't think it's no use threatening Minister by sending letters.
I mean, what could he do for him/her!?
There are hundreds and thousands of students out there... o_o

They recieved 5 more letters by now, but I don't think it would help change anything.
If I were one of them, I'd rather send a letter to those who has bullied me and kill myself, not the minister.

Am I wrong? o.o
 
Mmm, but to get the Media attention, I do think that the Board of Education would be the best place to send them, and not the people who has bullied the person.

I do think it is a useful to send this kind of letters, because this week there has been a lot of discussions on tv about the Education system, and it has been covered in the news.
 
Hmm. I understand.
But then... I'd send it TO the one who bullied me and then CC to the police and media... I mean, the one who bullys is to blame.
Or do you think Minister is also at fault?
 
Suicide is nothing but murder in my books and if the police intervene, then the person should be charged with attempted murder.
 
Okay, now that I've read his letter, I changed my opinion a bit.
I didn't know what's written in the letter when I posted above two posts. I thought he's blaming the minister.
Now I see, he did try to tell them all and asked people around him for help beforehand.

So I think what he did can be somewhat understandable.
 
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Why would anyone need to send a letter saying that he/she plans to comit a suicide? Wouldn't it be more like something to distract the attention while something else is commited?
 
I can all too well understand nothing is done about it, well...that's Japan for ya! I hope for their sake "Bully", RockStar's new game that came out a while ago won't be sold in Japan. (RockStar is known from Grand Theft Auto series) The game involves being a bully and harass other kids, quite sick if you ask me.
 
I think the reason why these people are writing to the ministry is because suicide is essentially a cry for help. Maybe these students are unable to confront their peer or family because of the shame/embarrassment of going through the process of confronting the bullies etc. Instead, they send it to the high authorities, which essentially is a shout to all of Japan to say 'help me' (in the case of multiple letters, 'help us').
These students are giving a wakeup call to Japan saying that something needs to be done about Ijime (and from what I've heard this is a most serious problem). I think what these students really want is something done to the school system rather then just get revenge on their schoolmates. But at the same time, I think it is a very unfortunate thing that things have to come to this point for this problem to be addressed.
 
I think that they need to do something over in japan to stop the bullying over there. So many students over in japan lately have committed suicide from bullying which is really sad. Anyways, the letter is a good thing for the ministry to see and read themselves so they can help the student out and stop him from doing it. Bummei Ibuki (did I spell his name right?) needs to also focus on bullying as well and maybe the letter will make him realize that it's a bigger problem then what they thought it was originally.

It's never really made sense to me why japanese kids commit suicide when their being bullied, but then things are alot different over in japan then anywhere else =(
 
Riyko said:
It's never really made sense to me why japanese kids commit suicide when their being bullied, but then things are alot different over in japan then anywhere else =(
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I think it's the Japanese alternative when it comes to an extremely shameful situation. I'm not very well educated on this subject, but from what I can tell, it seems to be a hard subject to approach other adults about.
 
I think this is going to take some more weeks:
 
dreamer said:
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Why would anyone need to send a letter saying that he/she plans to comit a suicide? Wouldn't it be more like something to distract the attention while something else is commited?
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They are sending the letter because they really don't want to do it and are hoping for attention. Sadly they are too weak to not do it and will eventually kill themselves for absolutely no reason!
 
CC1 said:
Suicide is nothing but murder in my books and if the police intervene, then the person should be charged with attempted murder.
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I hope you are kidding. If a person is so troubled to actually attempt suicide, they need help, not murder charges!

 
They need both! You may not like it, but it is the truth!
 
CC1 said:
They need both! You may not like it, but it is the truth!
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I think charging someone trying to take their own life with attempted murder is harsh to say in the least. CC1 obviously has their own opinion but can you imagine if you charge the person and put them in jail, they are most likely going to continue to try and take their own life. Suicide is not something to take a stance on of zero tolerance, these people need a lot of help which also means being in the right environment to recieve that help- jail would not be an environment that encourages them to grow.
People who commit suicide do so because they feel there is nothing left to live for in life (mostly), they feel they have recieved no love, no help (like these students), and that life has no purpose to continue living for. Thus society needs to ensure that it has the right facilities, resources and programs setup to deal with, and also handle the influx of persons with suicidal tendancies(as the number is increasing each year). Mental disorders also contribute to suicidal tendancies so dealing with these is important too. These people need to be shown that there is much more to life than what they are currently seeing, there is a bigger picture which contains hope for them. It is almost inhumane to charge someone with attempted murder for trying to take their own life, as someone said before, these letters are a last cry for help- therefore the response should be one that doesn't judge but one that loves and shows caring towards the aformentioned person, and helps to build them.
 
Just as Jieshi says, there is no news about it yet.

I just hope that because of the letters the Japanese will take this problem more serious, and that certain things will be changed. Let's hope it are only letters and nothing will happen for real.
 
Jeishi...just so you know...it is only an opinion, and it happens to be mine. I realize that it may not be a popular opinion, but I am not willing to change my stance just so that I may be popular. You can get people help, and hold them accountable at the same time!
 

And I noted that it is your opinion. Also I didn't specifically ask you to change your stance at all- I spoke my thoughts on the topic and that I disagreed with you, this is what forums are for and it is great we can debate our views on the topic. no ill intentions meant what so ever man
 
Just talked to my friend today who is a reporter for the TBS news network in Japan. Nothing happened over the weekend so the police are now looking in to whether the letters were a hoax or not, the good thing is that the government has really responded to these letters and the ministry of education is seriously looking at ways to beat the bullying and other problems in schools
 
That's good, as things need to change and need to change fast !!
 
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