I have cleaned up this thread, as it had become a flame war between lu_bu and nurizeko, CC1 and others. To keep this thread reasonably respectful in accordance with the forum rules, and to put it back on topic, I have deleted all posts including baiting, flaming, personal attacks, offtopic comments or replies to deleted posts. Thank you for your comprehension.
I stumbled on this picture when I found Debito Arudo's website. It's an apology because they made their signs sound discriminating :?
"MEMBERS ONLY" sounds awefully much like "JAPANESE ONLY" to me. Ofcourse all Japanese are automatically members
Aye, good reson for me to be jelous of girls. lol They say it's the oldest profession, but girls have an easier time getting bought than guys i her, not that i'd sell myself, but at the same time they do make alot more money that way than men. It's a sexist buisness, i tell you! (no pun intended)
In response to both police-stoked fears of foreign hooliganism and the profit motive (with the publisher of Sapporo's bilingual information magazine, XENE, offering translation services to xenophobes), "Members Only" signs (Japanese are automatically "members", naturally--especially since the signs are not even in Japanese) proliferated around Susukino and downtown Sapporo during the 2002 World Cup.
SUSUKINO EXCLUSIONARY SIGN
(displayed in various bars, nightlife establishments, and even a ramen shop)
STATUS REPORT: (As of November 2002) The signs soon disappeared after complaints, some press coverage, and the end of the World Cup. Some "soaplands", however (as of January 26, 2004), still have them up--which means this "Members Only" policy has nothing to do with "hooligans". For causing replicable social damage by giving discriminators the tools to ply their trade, Xene issued the following apology:
I have cleaned up this thread, as it had become a flame war between lu_bu and nurizeko, CC1 and others. To keep this thread reasonably respectful in accordance with the forum rules, and to put it back on topic, I have deleted all posts including baiting, flaming, personal attacks, offtopic comments or replies to deleted posts. Thank you for your comprehension.
I don't think that I was in a flame war, I merely posted fact based on my experiences. If you think that I was flaming, please point to the post in question.
But I do appreciate the moderating for a change...
Or, if you are interested in the membership business, it might be interesting to take your Asian friends to some Asian beach resorts mysteriously occupied mainly by Europeans.
are soaplands brothels? from what I understand, they provide a lady who washes and massage a client with her body and gives him nothing more than a hand job (no penetrative sex).
I may be completely wrong of course
But if I'm right I understand why they refuse foreigners. Foreigners could come in expecting the same service as a brothel and cause problems when they don't get full intercourse.
But if I'm right I understand why they refuse foreigners. Foreigners could come in expecting the same service as a brothel and cause problems when they don't get full intercourse.
Wether you are or aren't japanese, if some one goes that far, you will cause problems if they don't go all the way. It's kinda like mexican immigrants. People accuse them of only comming to the US to get on welfare. Now, i'm not going to sit here and debate if that's true or not, but what i do find true is that everyone wants a handout. People who are legally in the country (even those born here) want welfare, so they can live for free without working. You give anyone a little, and they'll want more. Weather it be sex, money, help, anything. When people can't get more, they throw a tantrum.
are soaplands brothels? from what I understand, they provide a lady who washes and massage a client with her body and gives him nothing more than a hand job (no penetrative sex).
I may be completely wrong of course
But if I'm right I understand why they refuse foreigners. Foreigners could come in expecting the same service as a brothel and cause problems when they don't get full intercourse.
today i was in fukuoka, i stayed in Clio Court hotel, my japanese friend can negotiate me (with a very hard negotiation) for entering a soapland nearby, it's called Darling soapland, kinda basement place with yellow neon sign on it..It accept gaijin like me, but i really not recommend you to go there, 18,000 yen for just 50 minutes, i cant choose the girl, get a very fat and ugly girl.Not worthed at all..Now i feel very sory for it
Well! I'm intrigued by this thread, to say the least. I was actually searching for information on Soaplands. I'm a sociology major and am considering doing some research and a paper on the sex industry in Japan in general. I am interested in it, like I am interested in most facets of Japan, regardless of whether I do anything academic with it or not. And I think sex is just sort of interesting anyway...
If there are still people in this thread (I didn't see when the last post was made), allow me to pick your brains. I know a lot about Japan and Japanese culture, but I've never been there, and my knowledge on the sex industry is lacking, not for lack of trying, but simply because the information is just not all that available, honestly. And I suppose understandably. Japan's sex industry is not publicized like Japan's religion, menu, language and whatever else is. I mean it makes sense, right? And that just makes me more curious, ha.
For starters... There must be soaplands (although probably much less common) that feature males as the... er... "washers" (soapers?), correct?
I have general questions about the Japanese sex industry, too, and I'm not sure if this is the best place to ask those questions. I don't know where else to ask, though, nor would I know who to ask.
For instance, it is my understanding that the age of consent is 16 in Japan (as opposed to the United States' age of 18). Is this correct? If it is correct, does that mean that there are 16 year-olds featured in pornographic material? And if so, that would probably mean pornography that is legal in Japan would be considered illegal elsewhere (for instance, the United States).
I've found absolutely no information on topics such as these.
Let's see, what else do I want to ask... I don't know, that should do it for now. If anyone can lend me their knowledge, or point me to a better place where I could ask questions about "dirty" sex in Japan, I'd be much obliged!
Also, as a student of Japan, let me comment that Shinto and Buddhism don't exactly place the same kinds of milieu and stigma upon sex as, say, most forms of Christianity would. For any of us in an occidental nation to say the Japanese are more "promiscuous" is a little ludicrous. The culture has grown up differently. Its foundation is totally different. And if you want to talk about STDs and what not, Japan is pretty big on "safe" sex. I don't know the particular statistics, but they use a lot of condoms, to say the least.
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