so i'm going to tokyo soon

Ah Mike, you remember when you were a young lad, and nothing you said could be held as sacred.

How you could say one thing with apparent sincerity one day and then change your mind the next.


The dude and his young lady-friend are going on a holiday, good for them.

my sister used to date guys a few years older then her, granted they were both assholes, but, it seemed to have been a valuable life lesson for her.

This forum REALLY needs to work on the way it addresses people. Needlessly being antagonistic doesnt help the member count.

6000 bucks for TWO WEEKS in Japan - is overkill. If you have it, great - spend it. If you dont have it, dont try and work up to it like its the magic number. Its not. For the two of you - not including airfare, easily 1500 a piece is enough to have a great time - unless of course you just want to buy tons of clothes and what not, then yes the 6000 bucks (plus shipping, because Im sure you dont want to carry all that with you) is going to come in.

Also - Tokyo gets old after a week. I would suggest getting a rail pass and expanding the area you two plan on hitting up. If youre interested in Tokyo, then hit Osaka/Kyoto up as well.

If you live in a guest house, you can live comparatively cheaply in Tokyo.
Rate, for one month of a dormitory,
It is 68,000 yen from 27,000 yen
For example,
A guest house of Takadanobaba.
TenTen Guesthouse
36,000 yen - 39,000 yen / 1 month
TenTen Guesthouse in Tokyo | Official Site

Takadanobaba is near to Shinjuku and is convenient for access to Shibuya.
In addition, there are many cheap dining rooms for a student because Waseda University is near.
In Takadanobaba, an office worker and OL, a student coexist,
Therefore there is a shop of various genres.
Here, there are many restaurants of various genres such as Thai cooking and Indian cooking, African cooking.
It is an interesting town.
Because I have worked in Takadanobaba, I know various shops.
Toden Arakawa Line,
Because there is a streetcar, it is convenient for access to a downtown area of Tokyo.
http://hisaai.at.infoseek.co.jp/Toei/index_eg.html
It is a guest house of Tokyo other than it.
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http://guesthousejapan.net/?pref=13

Mike Cash said:

What's funny is that he has such a poor opinion of 17 year olds....yet dates one.

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I never expressed a poor opinion for 17 year olds. Hell I was 17 about 6 months ago. I just said it really showed that she/he was 17. Acting your age is fine, and fun when you are 17, no need to bring nonsense like that here for no reason though... unless I could be stood corrected? Besides, you make it sound like I'm some pervert... we aren't even a year apart.

amber again can we plz stay on topic. i love this forum and do not want to argue with ANYONE so lets stick to topic =] thank you

You guys ....

need to open a new membership, MR.Amberface, LOL. It seems like you are skiztzo, talking to each other.

Uncle Frank

heh. yeah we're that cool heh. if he does make one it'll be like kriswiggly always is LOL

MrsAmberface said:

I never expressed a poor opinion for 17 year olds.

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"You are 17? It really shows."

Expresses disdain and derision.

Hell I was 17 about 6 months ago.

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Nice to know that you matured so very much in six months.

Besides, you make it sound like I'm some pervert... we aren't even a year apart.

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Other than pointing out the potential legal problems of a person of adult age taking a minor across state lines, I have made no comment on your age difference.

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Other than pointing out the potential legal problems of a person of adult age taking a minor across state lines, I have made no comment on your age difference.

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He said by the time they'll go, she will be 18 and he will be 19. Lost the glasses Mike?

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He said by the time they'll go, she will be 18 and he will be 19. Lost the glasses Mike?

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Not at all. Review the thread and notice that the clarification on their ages at the time of their trip came after my heads up regarding the Mann Act.

Ahhhhhhh.... Sounds like me in early 2001.

I took $900, a plane ticket read that I'd be landing in Tokyo Narita's airport and 90 days later I'd be flying back home (90 days with 900 dollars! Ha.)
After landing it costed me 1,000yen ($8 dollars) to take the local train into Tokyo and by the time I got into central Tokyo I had experienced Tokyo (and I haden't even got off the train yet.)

Everything was how everyone told me though, that the girls would love me and buy me dinner. I began eating free meals, staying at girls' apartments and living the life I had always dreamed of... But just like the poster I had originally flew to Japan on a sort of all or nothing bet with myself.

After finding a really cool (now extinct) bar/club in Shibuya I began drinking a ton, I was only 19 (the drinking age is 20,) and I met several business type people who after talking with me for a short while bought me drinks and I remember asking them how they made it. One guy told me he had gone to Tokyo to teach english, then the next thing he knew he was in a much more profitable business and that in the game of life in order to get anywhere you need to know the right people and you also need to be at the right place at the right time. I asked him how I could become an english teacher, he then told me what the requirements usually are (for a person to be an English teacher in Tokyo, Japan) and I was not qualified at all, I haden't even finished my second year of high school before dropping out.

So there I was in Tokyo, 80 days left or so, about $800 dollars to my name. Drinking, train tickets to meet with the most beautiful women I've met in my life and a $250 dollar taxi ride (when I could have taken the train an hour later for $15) brought my money down close to nothing so I went to the airport, had my ticket changed to leave two days later, I then left Tokyo, Japan, by the time I got to my front door I had no money and I knew there had to be a way around the system.

I had been with the most beautiful girls of my life whom had treated like a god and I knew that I needed to go back.

After months of planning my second trip in my bedroom I began devising plans as to how I could take advantage of the girls that were wanting to be with me (more) and after figuring out my hustles a good three trips followed.
After that I found myself with riches beyond belief and nowadays I can fly to Tokyo, Japan, whenever I want, like seriously I could wake up tomorrow and if I wanted to, fly to Tokyo

and the amazing part is I didn't graduate high-school, my mom had no money and I spent 16 years of my life in fear of malnutrition.
Your dreams are possible, don't let anyone tell you that you can't do what you want to do.

what do you want to travel in japan?
there are lots of nice spot in tokyo.
so make your nice plan and study japan.
i think you need to study japanese language until going to japan.
japanese guys usually don't speak english well.
so if you have any trouble,you need to ask peolpe to speak japanese.

anyway when do you go to japan?
enjoy your trip!

ghettocities said:

Your dreams are possible, don't let anyone tell you that you can't do what you want to do.

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thank you sooo much =]

kenken said:

what do you want to travel in japan?

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What?

kenken said:

so make your nice plan and study japan.

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heh. that's why we'er here =]

kenken said:

i think you need to study japanese language until going to japan.

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how do i go about learning japanese?

kenken said:

anyway when do you go to japan?
enjoy your trip!

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heh. we go over my summer break got a half of year of school left after that so yeah then i'm going straight into cosmetology college YAY! =]

Did you kids ever hear of the phrase "don't shoot the messenger"...? More or less that you shouldn't bring the brunt of your frustration upon the people who happen to be the bearers of bad news.

Frankly, I don't think either of you are mature enough to go to Japan together without some sort of guide or at least a guardian. I started to write a sort of rough guide for getting from Narita to Tokyo, including accommodations & food options on the cheap, but really... I think you two should wait to go to Japan before your plan has been formalized somewhere other than on a cocktail napkin...

How often do you think that people say "I'm going to Japan, give me advice!" on JREF...? I think this forum is filled with the questions that you're asking. But my advice, and I don't want to speak for others, but I don't think I'm alone here, is that you may not be fully prepared (emotionally and or otherwise) to travel across the globe to a country who's image you seem to have compiled from Gwen Steffani videos...

Keep in mind, I have nothing against you personally but I think (again) that you're going about this all completely ill prepared.

Keep in mind, I have nothing against you personally but I think (again) that you're going about this all completely ill prepared.

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I think were REALLY over-complicating (is that a word) Japan here - ESPECIALLY Tokyo. They are going to a place that generally caters to (well behaved) foreign visitors, and if they stay at a hostel - they wont NEED to bring a "guide" with them. At best they need to figure out the train systems and get themselves an atlas. If they really want to prepare - they should take a class in Japanese at the local community college, just to get introduced to the language.

As for their whole "reasons" to go - as well as facetiously suggesting its based on MTV - who cares? Its not like there arent parts of the city that arent as gaudy as one imagines.

In any case, they arent leaving TOMORROW - theyre leaving in seven months, more than enough time to get pointed in the right direction as far as resources are concerned. I know people their age who put together trips in less than a month.

I mean really - if a guy can get by in Japan with no other motivating factor than to put his manhood in any semi-cute thing that moves. . .then these folks who seem to have a genuine wonderlust about Japan should be fine. If not - theyre loaded with cash and can buy their way out of any mistakes.

Mike Cash said:

"You are 17? It really shows."
Expresses disdain and derision.
Nice to know that you matured so very much in six months.
Other than pointing out the potential legal problems of a person of adult age taking a minor across state lines, I have made no comment on your age difference.

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I never said anything about maturing or being immature at all. In fact I think I made no comment on my maturity whatsoever. As a matter of fact I believe I said "Acting your age is fun, especially when you are 17." implying acting immature/goofy. I'm sure you know that with that comes well known teen attitude and a strong sense of always being right. Besides I am right! lol jpjpjp (You will probably use me arguing this entire matter with you against me saying that I'M trying to always be right. I'm just defending the negative comments you had towards me... which I coudn't figure out why they were said in the first place.)

I simply said from the beginning, that there was no need to put negative comments like "Maybe you should just be patient." On here for no good reason. It was completely uncalled for.

Why are you arguing this anyway? I'm just a immature 18 year old right? So whats the point in instigating arguments through an internet forum? You're 41, arguing with a freshman in college. What bothers you so much that you feel the need to turn everything I say around? Thanks for the help you DID give in the beginning though. Any and all help is much appreciated! -kris

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Not at all. Review the thread and notice that the clarification on their ages at the time of their trip came after my heads up regarding the Mann Act.

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WRONG! lol jk man, but if you do read the post directly above your mann act post. the last sentence states our ages at the time of the trip.

Back on topic...

Er, whatever the ages, I would recommend that you get plenty of literature on Japan, especially the cities and sites you plan to go to.

I've always recommended the fine folks at the JNTO for brochures and maps. Their URL is Travel Japan - Japan National Tourism Organization (JNTO) and there's a section for ordering them (and they're free). When you get loads of brochures and maps delivered to your homes, you'll impress your parents that you're not going blindly.

Don't mind Mike Cash. Even when he sounds harsh, he really is trying to help out. The Mann Act was a good point. The point he made about 17 year olds is not a big one for you to get upset about. I'll admit that I found your comments ironic, too. Don't let yourself get distracted from your trip.

Personally I think you're going to have a great time, but I think you should decide on a theme for your trip! If you have a purpose for your trip rather than just randomly going, I think it'll be that much more fun! Then again, some people enjoy randomness. Especially when they were just 17!

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I think were REALLY over-complicating (is that a word) Japan here - ESPECIALLY Tokyo.

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It's not complicated (after the second trip or fourth week during the first,) but for the rest of the time, matured person or not it will be complicated.

Even if this girl had a guide, unlimited money, places to stay, there would still be moments of complication, discomfort or bad happenings happening.
Then again I think my only other advice is that if you are planning on going to Tokyo then just jump into it, you won't learn unless you get on the bicycle without knowing how to ride it and fall off a good ten times.

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It's not complicated (after the second trip or fourth week during the first,) but for the rest of the time, matured person or not it will be complicated.
Even if this girl had a guide, unlimited money, places to stay, there would still be moments of complication, discomfort or bad happenings happening.
Then again I think my only other advice is that if you are planning on going to Tokyo then just jump into it, you won't learn unless you get on the bicycle without knowing how to ride it and fall off a good ten times.

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Well teh complications are part of the adventure right? I usually do things by the book in my life and am rarely spontanious with stuff like this. I'm deff looking at this as more of an adventure than a trip though, although still reasonably prepared. This is my last post under her name I swear lol. -kris

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I never said anything about maturing or being immature at all. In fact I think I made no comment on my maturity whatsoever. As a matter of fact I believe I said "Acting your age is fun, especially when you are 17." implying acting immature/goofy.

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Please don't tell me you don't see how you just contradicted yourself in that paragraph and further showed me to be correct in my assessment of your statement.

Why are you arguing this anyway?

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I have no life.

I'm just a immature 18 year old right?

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I hadn't offered any comment on how mature or immature I think you are, so I guess you must be offerering that up as a self-assessment.

So whats the point in instigating arguments through an internet forum?

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It's how I get my jollies, having no life otherwise.

You're 41, arguing with a freshman in college.

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Were we arguing?

What bothers you so much that you feel the need to turn everything I say around?

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I didn't turn around anything you said. I merely pointed out what one particular statement of your implied. And you later confirmed that I was correct, when you contradicted yourself above.

Thanks for the help you DID give in the beginning though. Any and all help is much appreciated! -kris

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That is refreshing. Typically the vast majority of help/advice given to those contemplating visiting or moving to Japan is resented and ignored.

WRONG! lol jk man, but if you do read the post directly above your mann act post. the last sentence states our ages at the time of the trip.

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You are correct. It was my fault for tending not to carefully read the posts of those who don't exercise basic composition skills when posting to the internet. I'll strive to be more diligent in the future.

Mike, I dont know how, but perhaps getting some western TV to your home will be a plus.

If I lived in Japan aslong as you and only had Japanese television, I'de resort to picking on kids over the net to...

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Mike, I dont know how, but perhaps getting some western TV to your home will be a plus.

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Not to change the subject but everyone in the USA, heads up, Master Card (World Master Card) just released a terrifying commercial in the United States where it is like "Ring: $7,000" but then the next thing you know it turns into "Plane ticket:" such and such money and it's all about this American guy who fell in love with a Japanese girl and then he flies his parents to Tokyo for them to meet her parents and it's such a gruesome commercial.

I cringed every four seconds of the seemingly minute long advertisement.


Josh

MIKE STOP PICKIN ON MUH BOYFRIEND! LOL! hehe ghetto...wow..okay we'll try cities.. yeah.. that's better. anyways cities how many times hav eyou been back and forth and why do you go so often?

Josh, why do YOU of all people have a phobia that white folk are invading Japan...?

That said, I think it would do you some good Amber to plan your trip very very well.... I think my reaction to your initial post was mostly due to the fact that you seem to have been planning it as a sort of random getaway--- Japan is a surprisingly complex place (despite what people say...)...

I have no doubt that you'd be able to go there, probably find some sort of accomidation... but for how long, and for how much money.... that I don't know, as fits your budget... Do you REALLY want to go there, spend a few measly nights in a love hotel, buy some clothes at Hysteric Glamour, run out of money, AND THEN WHAT... All I'm saying is that, its wretched to be in a big city, with no plans, and no money, and little idea as to what to actually do.

By the way--- maybe for your boyfriend... skip the BAPE and (you) Hysteric Glamour.... it's all overpriced anyways... nobody will know the brand names, but get Grimegate & Modern Lovers... you'll be cool and nobody will even know it... which is the whole point of being cool in the first place.

Good luck.