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Should the Emperor be Abolished?

Should the emperor be abolished?

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 17.5%

  • No

    Votes: 31 77.5%

  • Other (explain)

    Votes: 2 5.0%
  • Total voters
    40
A monarch could also function as a voice of the people. Because of his position, he is poised to deliver advice and suggestions, as well as admonitions, to the government. If the government ignores the monarch, it could find itself without any support come the next election, with a lot of incumbents getting replaced because they didn't heed the monarch's words.

Then again, if the populace is totally apathetic, nothing the monarch says will do any good anyway.
 
EmperorHirohito said:
Sukotto thats a very valid point, a monarch can do a great deal to prevent a left wing or extreme right wing politican from becoming too powerfull, and no monarch would want to be replaced by a jumped up politican.
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then in that same Daily Show segment the guy said the queen was inheriantly undemocratic.
on the one hand such a position is an office of the past, a cultural icon, with absolutely no power what-so-ever today, what harm could it do to keep around?
on the other hand they are supported by the tax payers.


but i don't really get the "cultural icon" or tradition thing?
the tradition of a dictator?
why would anyone want to keep such an archaic concept as dictator alive?
 
Sukotto said:
the tradition of a dictator?
why would anyone want to keep such an archaic concept as dictator alive?
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Pol Pot. Pinochet. Adolf Hitler. Mao Zedong.

It is alive and well. The concept will exist as long as there are polities.
 
if the emperor is anything like our royal family i.e a tax robbing-racist-snob then yes please do abolish him as i wud give my left arm to see queen elizabeth and her band of fox hunting idiots blasted into space!!! sorry i get so worked up when it comes to the monarchy.
 
A monarch is a symbol of unity, and like any person, can be good or bad. The King of Thailand is a very good monarch and does much for his country--that is part of his duty, as well as being a symbol.
Question: Why does the descent have to follow the male line? In many cultures, it's the female line that's important. And as for the Romanovs, are you sure they were Romanovs?
 
Haivart said:
Question: Why does the descent have to follow the male line? In many cultures, it's the female line that's important.
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It was in Egypt. They were matrilineal. That's why the Pharaoh had to marry his sister. Ewww.
 
Incorrect. Egypt was that way because pharoah was considered a god. A woman was not supposed to be a Pharoah.

I was thinking of Navaho, actually. In many older cultures, property and identity follow the female line.
 
I can't see the justification for abloshing the Emperor and its part of the Japanese culture to have a noble symbol and one from a pure and noble family.
 
I don't see any reason to get rid of the Monarchy in Japan. It is completely and tottally powerless. The British Monarchy is also as "powerless" if you talk about Political power. However the British Monarchy still carries British pride high on its shoulders.

Japan is defintely not so, however getting rid of it would be hugely insulting to it's history and culture
 
I haven't read the whole thread (sorry if I repeat anything) but our Queen (I'm a Brit) is damn near useless, her husband offends anyone he meets and the whole family is a waste of space, but they do wonders for our tourism. I think it is similar in Japan, there is an interest in Monarchs and I feel the Emperor is an interesting part of Japan. I don't know to what degree he has power anymore though (our Queen doesn't really have any)
 
I would say no since the Emperor is such a big part of Japanese culture.
 
GodEmperorLeto said:
Pol Pot. Pinochet. Adolf Hitler. Mao Zedong.
It is alive and well. The concept will exist as long as there are polities.
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I did not say it was not around any where.
Just questioning why would one want to glorify the concept, structure, or system of dictatorship? Which is essentially what a queen/king or empress/eperor are.

I also happen to disagree that dictatorship systems will always exist.
perhaps we can agree to disagree on that one
 
Japanese Emperor(Tenno);

1)There is no power though there is an authority.
The successor cannot be nominated by himself.
Even if it is possible to demand, it is not possible to order it.
However, Only the emperor can attest the person in paramount authority.

2)The luxury cannot be done.
He has little income.
It is not possible to expend it freely.
He doesn't know how much property there is.

3)there is no free at all.
It is not possible to travel except official business.
He cannot schedule it by himself.


The emperor is poor.
Even if the emperor can endure it, the empress will not be able to endure it.
 
caster51 said:
2)The luxury cannot be done.
He has little income.
It is not possible to expend it freely.
He doesn't know how much property there is.
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Hmm... This is actually somewhat distressing. So, what you are saying is, that in the modern economy, the emperor's position doesn't even afford him an income? This makes me wonder how all of those European monarchs are so rich these days.

3)there is no free at all.
It is not possible to travel except official business.
He cannot schedule it by himself.
The emperor is poor.
Even if the emperor can endure it, the empress will not be able to endure it.
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That's a shame. But, then again, I don't remember reading much about emperors traveling during the earlier historical periods (ex. Nara period, Muromachi period, etc). They mostly were cloistered in the capitals back then, too, I thought.
 
Tenno does not have self-interest at all.
His job is to Pray for peace....
I think It is culturally World Heritage.
It is necessary to defend World Heritage.


1)There is no power though there is an authority
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No one can become a dictator because of this division of labor system.
The emperor can temporarily keep power even if becoming an anarchy.
It is possible to move to the following system smoothly by returning power
after a new government starts.

anyway , he is working as Japanese diplomat more than 1000 diplomats

BTW

I think Emperor is Japanese the ultimate weapon .
What of Japan do foreign country scare ?
It is to unite under the emperor again though I think it is a illusion.
that is why the foreigner is sensitive to the nationalism of Japan.
 
Haivart said:
Incorrect. Egypt was that way because pharoah was considered a god. A woman was not supposed to be a Pharoah.
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Dunno how I missed this, even if it was months ago.

How is what incorrect? I said Egypt was matrilineal, it was. And there were women Pharaohs. Yes, Pharaoh was a god, but the office of deified ruler was still transmitted through the female line. The Pharaoh married his sister, and it wasn't because it was fun. It was because that's how matrilineal society works. A god upholds tradition, he doesn't overturn it (Akhenaten not withstanding, all his reforms were immediately overthrown upon his death).
caster51 said:
I think Emperor is Japanese the ultimate weapon .
What of Japan do foreign country scare ?
It is to unite under the emperor again though I think it is a illusion.
that is why the foreigner is sensitive to the nationalism of Japan.
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A hatred of kings and despots can also be a powerful weapon. Look at France during the Revolution. The crowned heads of Europe were terrified because the French wanted to spread their brand of democracy across the continent and abolish nobility and kingship everywhere.
 

窶喇 think a King is deffrent from Emperor.
Emperor has no self-interest at all.
 
caster51 said:
窶喇 think a King is deffrent from Emperor.
Emperor has no self-interest at all.
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What? Do you mean your current emperor? Or emperors in general? Because I can list Roman emperors, Chinese emperors, and emperors from other nations who exhibited a great deal of self-interest.

Please. Emperor is basically king with bigger pretensions. They are both despots whose rule is based on absolute authority. And if you are claiming that the Japanese emperor is unique historically because no Japanese emperor ever expressed self-interest... I don't even know where to begin to express how naive you are being.

If you want to talk about rulers signifying the embodiment of a nation, Louis XIV did it long before Meiji. And, unless I am mistaken, nationalism and the position of the Emperor as a symbol of nationhood both emerged in Japan about 250 years after Louis said, "L'etat, c'est moi."
 

Ok, I think Japanese Tenno is deffernt from other emperor like Louis XIV and Japanese king like shogun.

shogun before Louis XIV was symbol of nationhood both emerged ...like Iza kamakura
many shogun said something like "L'etat, c'est moi"
 
the emperor is a symbol of japan just as the queen of great britan is a symbol of england..........

the emperor should be repected and should continue...it is a heritage the japanese should be happy to have....the meperor was thought to be a living god..........of course now that sounds inconvinient....but the emperor is like an identity of japan.........
 
The emperor is just a symbol of Japan. Much like England, Thailand, and many other countries, they are mainly symbols. People always bring up debates about this figures, but why? Every country has symbols. America puts up monuments like the Statue of Liberty, Mount Rushmore (Is that right) as a symbol for there country. Symbols are an important aspect of any culture why destroy a good thing?
 
Give him a nice gift basket to thank him for his......trouble........then send him away.
 
Excuse my ignorance on this subject, but what exactly is the Emperor of Japan's job, and how much power does he have?
 
TwilightMoon777 said:
Excuse my ignorance on this subject, but what exactly is the Emperor of Japan's job, and how much power does he have?
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all he does is just be there just like the queen of england
he no longer is considered sacred...and his word isnt a devine order as it was belived in japan
 
If that is the case....then why keep him around? :? I say get rid of him if all he is going to do is look nice, and sit on his butt.
 
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