Pronunciation of long vowels?

[Wardie1993]

erm...?

 

[Mike Cash]

Same thing, just rendered in the English alphabet differently.

To see the difference more clearly it helps to look at it with kana:

とおか
One-two-three "beats"

As you pronounced it in your video:

とか
One-two "beats"

 

[Wardie1993]

so how come me phrasebook and google translate so its "tooh-ka"?

 

[warriorkalia]

The line over the o indicates a long vowel, ie a two-beat vowel.

 

[Wardie1993]

okkkk?

 

[nekojita]

Do you mean the issue with the pronunciation of things like:
ありがとう vs. とおる?

It's always difficult to explain proper pronunciation in writing. Phrasebooks try to approximate it so that someone who doesn't speak Japanese can (hopefully) more or less make themselves understood on holiday, but the best way is through audio.

 

[Mike Cash]

The English alphabet is an imperfect tool for clearly and unmistakably representing the sounds of Japanese. For one thing, there are different systems of doing it. For another, it tends to make you read it as though you were reading English.

On a totally different note, many of us come from areas with local dialects or accents that are very dear to us, so we can certainly understand your fondness for expressing yourself in whatever flavor of English dialect you speak at home. However, it is not appropriate for a forum where people are from many areas and where many are not native English speakers. It helps everyone understand everyone else better if we all make our best effort to express ourselves here in clear English devoid of local dialect/slang.

 

[Wardie1993]

The English alphabet is an imperfect tool for clearly and unmistakably representing the sounds of Japanese. For one thing, there are different systems of doing it. For another, it tends to make you read it as though you were reading English.

On a totally different note, many of us come from areas with local dialects or accents that are very dear to us, so we can certainly understand your fondness for expressing yourself in whatever flavor of English dialect you speak at home. However, it is not appropriate for a forum where people are from many areas and where many are not native English speakers. It helps everyone understand everyone else better if we all make our best effort to express ourselves here in clear English devoid of local dialect/slang.

i know im mega late in this reply, but sorry for trouble caused, ive since stopped with writing in my local dialect, oh and thanks for your reply

 

[BrianLewis]

Is it really double? I have always considered it to be like dotting a note in music.