epigene said:まどのむこうに、ゆうれいがみえる。
Phantom can be translated as:
ゆうれい: Ghost, as in spirit of a dead person
おばけ: Ghost, as a frightening monster
まぼろし: Mirage
げんえい: Illusion
Take your pick!
Phantom can be interpreted in many ways in Japanese, so I just listed the possibilities. If it's mirage, "maboroshi" is OK.kamuizero said:hey thnx! but why the " むこうに " ?? is kara wrong??? =S, and what does "まぼろし" is used for =P??? I thought i could use it there hehe
Thank you, Elizabeth!Elizabeth said:Perhaps scary-looking is better than just scary. There are various ways to frame it I'm sure, but does this make sense as one ?
まどのむこうに恐ろしい姿をした幻がみえる
I know I would more frightened of a 恐ろしい幽霊 than a 姿の幽霊(幻), Epigene....but it is a matter of personal taste in the end.epigene said:Thank you, Elizabeth!
I forgot to put in "kowai." Yes, "osoroshii" is scarier...
I understand perfectly....it's just that in English it was my opinion that "frightful looking" has a more natural ring, depending how strongly you believe the phantom to be an actual being I suppose....kamuizero said:Well kind of hehe, what I'm trying to say is " A Scary/dreadful Phantom is seen through the window" The person is inside the room, and if he looks the window there is a phatom at the other side of the window (outside the house) =P
Damicci said:I thought kara could also be used to specify the cause and effect
ゆうべはしずかからよくねることができた。
because last night was quiet I was able to sleep well.
Is this not correct？
Mado kara is a common enough expression I suppose from the car or train or something -- I don't think you need to be inside it. "Through the window" or "out the window" does come off as more natural to me in English, though, "from the window" sounds like you're limited by your vantage point, as if hindered from getting another perspective on it.CorDarei said:夕べは静か＊だった＊からよく寝られました。
is fine. I'm not sure why @epigene didn't like kamuizero's "mado kara"; I suspect it has something to do with the fact that "mado kara" sort of sounds like you are *inside* the window... maybe 窓のそばからゆうれいが見える would be better
epigene said:"Mado kara mieru" would be used when the person is actively looking out the window, probably in search of something specific or interesting. "Mado no mukou ni mieru" describes a situation in which the person unexpectantly sees something through the window.
Hope this explains it! (Whew, relieved that I was correct)
PS Do I see "mojibake" on CorDarei's post? Am I the only one? I saw mojibake in one of Nagashima-san's post when he was writing in Japanese only (in zenkaku). He was aware of the mojibake problem, and it still happened in his post! Anybody have an answer?
Thanks for the info! Actually, I'm viewing in Shift-JIS, too, but still see the mojibake. :?GaijinPunch said:I'm viewing in SHift-JIS, and see no mojibake.
Just to throw my two cents in, "mado kara" just reminds me of someone looking out to check the weather.
epigene said:...sought my husband's advice (trained as Japanese language (kokugo & kanbun) teacher on the high school level).