Bexy Jones
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As an Uklander you are eligible for the Working Holiday scheme, I believe. Have you looked into that?
Ah yes I've heard of them so I'm definitely going to have a proper look into them. Thank you!Typically people go with the ALT program or the JET program. I don't know too much about teaching English there sorry
I've been teaching here since 1998. Happy to answer any questions, but I'm one of the few teachers on this site. If you visit the ESL Cafe discussion group, everyone there is either a teacher of sorts in Japan, or wants to be.
Do you have a bachelor's degree? Major? (The latter is not so important. The former is necessary if you want a work visa.)
Have you explored what sort of English teaching you want to get into? That is, ALT work, language school (eikaiwa), college, business, private...? ALTs get hired typically through the JET Programme or a dispatch agency. Eikaiwas hire directly, and the biggies have offices in some major cities abroad, so you have to go to them for interviews and pay your own way there, maybe for 1-3 days. A few will do a Skype interview, but be aware of the disadvantages of that on both sides of the screen.
Working holiday visa will work for 2 6-month periods. Strictly speaking you are not supposed to work long-term on it, but some employers look the other way. It's good for PT or FT work, and you don't need an employer to sponsor it, unlike a regular work visa. You have to apply for it in your home country. One disadvantage is that you get taxed 20% with a WHV. You could also come on a student visa and work part-time just to get your feet wet as you study Japanese.
Most entry level jobs don't know about TEFL/TESL certification nor do they care. CELTA is one of the best recognized ones. If you really want to get into teaching, definitely get one of them, but even better would be to get a master's degree in a related area. (You can do it by distance learning, too.)
How soon do you want to start working? Most jobs will begin their fiscal year in April. Eikaiwas hire year round, but even they have some limitations. A second influx of people is in October.
Why teaching? How long do you figure you'll hang in there? Most people come and go within 2-3 years.
How good are your Japanese skills? Speaking, listening, reading, writing. The more you know, the better your chances of getting a job, although very little is actually needed in most cases. Competition is very high nowadays.
From everything you've said, I'd say you'd be best going for eikaiwa (English conversation) work. Any previous experience of teaching or tutoring, or working with kids (even volunteering) will help. A TEFL certificate might help as well, especially if you don't have any previous experience. You don't need Japanese. A CELTA would only be worth it if you're thinking of pursuing EFL teaching in language schools as a longer term career, not if you think you're just going to do a year or two in Japan then return home to do something different.
The best of the "big" eikaiwa (the ones that operate nationwide across Japan) are probably ECC and Aeon. I think they recruit in the UK. They pay a regular, fixed wage each month (unlike some other places). There are a lot of other, smaller schools out there too if you search on the internet, and you can probably find "reviews" of them as well. Do your research well on them though, the pay and conditions in these places vary, and some of them can be very exploitative (if not outright criminal) in their business practices.
The JET programme is more "prestigious" and pays more, probably the best option if you can get on it. They like higher calibre people with good degrees from redbrick unis, and people who are looking to go on to more professional careers, especially in Japan or related to Japan in some way.
I wouldn't recommend ALT "dispatch company" work so much, where you work as a teaching assistant for an agency which places you in an elementary or high school (again, you don't need teaching qualifications or Japanese), mainly because the pay is lower each month than the other options above. On top of that, you often get reduced pay in the summer and winter holiday as well, and the contracts often finish at the end of February, so you won't get paid for March (Japanese school year starts in April).
I've worked on and off in Japan over the past 15+ years and have spent some of that time working in these sorts of jobs, and/or know people who have, so what I've said above is based on that experience.
Bexy,Hello I'm Bexy and I'm new to this site..
I'm 24 years old from the UK and I have had a huge interest in Japan ever since I was young,
this includes the culture, people, language, anime, food, buildings and nature etc.. I was even
lucky enough to visit Japan (Tokyo,Kyoto,Osaka,Fujigoko) last year on my own for 2 weeks and it was just a dream!
I am now interested in getting a job there preferably teaching English but I want to know the best way to go about it. I have heard about TEFL courses and I have looked into them a bit but I would love to know which courses are the best to do and how I would go about actually getting a job in a school there. I would also love to use the opportunity to learn Japanese whilst I am over there as I only know basic words..
If anyone has any advice for me that would be just great: whether you have experience in the situation or not it would be great to chat with you. I would be interested in schools outside of Tokyo but also would be happy wherever I go as I love Japan.
Thank you.
- Bex
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wow thank you this is great!Bexy,
We just created a video on a breakdown of applying to the JET Programme! So if you're interested have a look and hopefully it gives you a clearer idea of which company you'd like to apply to in Japan. Good luck:
Yes, it gets your foot in the door as eligible for the lowest form of work visa for teaching: specialist in humanities/international relations. You could be an ALT through JET (and possibly some dispatch situations) or be an eikaiwa instructor.I do have a bachelors degree in Drama and Musical Theatre if that helps at all?
Salaries are slowly going down, but they are livable ones provided you don't splurge. What does "I had a school in mind" mean exactly? I can think of a few meanings and want to address the correct one.I would be happy with any work to do with teaching as long as it gives me enough money to live, I had a school in mind but would happily try anything!
WHEN next year? Pick a month!I'm thinking of doing this next year some time and I would love to try and stay longer than a year if it is possible.
Reality check here. Visiting for 2 weeks tells you virtually nothing about living and working here. Coming to visit and sightsee is a good experience, but don't fool yourself into thinking it compares to showing up for classes prepared to instruct people, arrive on time, stay for overtime, make your own meals, pay electric bills, etc.I visited for 2 weeks last year and it is everything I thought it would be.
Easiest route to what? You're not providing enough information here.I have never really thought about teaching before this but I was just thinking is this the easiest route to take if I don't know much Japanese at all yet?
Good idea for potential workers in any field as well as tourists.I only really know basic Japanese words at the minute but I am definitely interested in learning more, so I would probably try and learn a bit more before I went over.
I'd say that would be a coin toss in accuracy. JET ALTs have a reputation as much as eikaiwa teachers for landing in trouble. JET ALTs simply have to work normal hours, but a boatload of them are immature and wild. I would also not say their degrees are necessarily mostly good ones (if that means related to education).The JET programme is more "prestigious" and pays more, probably the best option if you can get on it. They like higher calibre people with good degrees
From transformer5: I'd say that would be a coin toss in accuracy. JET ALTs have a reputation as much as eikaiwa teachers for landing in trouble. JET ALTs simply have to work normal hours, but a boatload of them are immature and wild. I would also not say their degrees are necessarily mostly good ones (if that means related to education).
Go to the ESL Cafe!
I definitely wouldn't splurge once I got there and I would be very careful when spending, I will also make sure I save up quite a bit of money before going. I was thinking September next year but if that doesn't work with their school term then probably the year after in April.Yes, it gets your foot in the door as eligible for the lowest form of work visa for teaching: specialist in humanities/international relations. You could be an ALT through JET (and possibly some dispatch situations) or be an eikaiwa instructor.
Salaries are slowly going down, but they are livable ones provided you don't splurge. What does "I had a school in mind" mean exactly? I can think of a few meanings and want to address the correct one.
WHEN next year? Pick a month!
Reality check here. Visiting for 2 weeks tells you virtually nothing about living and working here. Coming to visit and sightsee is a good experience, but don't fool yourself into thinking it compares to showing up for classes prepared to instruct people, arrive on time, stay for overtime, make your own meals, pay electric bills, etc.
Easiest route to what? You're not providing enough information here.
Good idea for potential workers in any field as well as tourists.
From transformer5: I'd say that would be a coin toss in accuracy. JET ALTs have a reputation as much as eikaiwa teachers for landing in trouble. JET ALTs simply have to work normal hours, but a boatload of them are immature and wild. I would also not say their degrees are necessarily mostly good ones (if that means related to education).
Go to the ESL Cafe!
Thanks. You couldn't get a visa for private teaching anyway.What I meant by having a school in mind is any school really rather than private teaching with families etc
JET has recently changed so that you can get hired twice a year, I believe. Previously, you sent in your materials by Nov/Dec, and after processing and interviews in Feb/Mar, you got sent over only in late July early August. See what their schedule is now.I was thinking September next year
Just keep it in mind. Living in an exotic faraway land, people tend to do things they normally wouldn't. Unless you live in the heart of a big city, you should be able to save a few hundred dollars per month by living modestly.I definitely wouldn't splurge once I got there
I'd tend to agree with that in general terms. Also keep in mind that JET ALTs are not required to have an education degree or experience teaching or any certificate. Those deficiencies, plus their young age, often tend to give a fairly low image to them for any sort of serious teaching responsibilities. Many are considered "human tape recorders" at work. Experience varies considerably, but generally JTEs are not overly impressed with being forced to work with them. Keep that in mind -- being forced -- above all else. The JTEs don't ask for ALTs.The reason I say it's more prestigious is that JETs tend to get looked on favourably for more prestigious jobs in business and government, diplomatic service and that kind of thing. It gets you better connected with that particular world. I've got several friends who did JET and they've all done better in terms of where their careers have gone than people who haven't (myself included), though that's as much (if not more) down to them than the JET programme.
Also keep in mind that JET ALTs are not required to have an education degree or experience teaching or any certificate. Those deficiencies, plus their young age, often tend to give a fairly low image to them for any sort of serious teaching responsibilities. Many are considered "human tape recorders" at work. Experience varies considerably, but generally JTEs are not overly impressed with being forced to work with them. Keep that in mind -- being forced -- above all else. The JTEs don't ask for ALTs.
And yet, they are called assistant language teachers, and work in public schools alongside Japanese teachers of English. Their mere presence is the cultural exchange in many cases, due to their ability to speak English better than the JTE and know more about their country's culture. Virtually all of their duties revolve around teaching English, its pronunciation, the student's ability to hear it and repeat it, and enhancing grammar lessons.JETs don't need education degrees or experience because they're not required to teach. That's not the purpose of the programme, it's more about cultural exchange.
Eikaiwa instructors are meant to help with conversation, which is teaching and language. So, I disagree. I've been an eikaiwa teacher, and I know quite a few JET ALTs and dispatch ALTs. Is any of that serious learning? No, but that's Japan. However you still have to stand in front of HS students or paying eikaiwa customers and present the language and get them to practice it. That's teaching.Let's face it, eikaiwa and ALT aren't about teaching either.
However you still have to stand in front of HS students or paying eikaiwa customers and present the language and get them to practice it. That's teaching.
Instructors who truly are sincere about teaching will do them a service rather than just show up and do the things you described (which are not uncommon, unfortunately).