I need help with translation

GoldCoinLover · 25 May 2004

On the japanese side of this forum, there was a girl posting saying she was a high school student. She didn't seem to know much english but she posted her email and got though to me. I'm a high school student also, I wanted to say this, but I am new to japanese and I don't know how to translation this into japanese:

Hi, how are you? I heard about you on the japanese forum, but I do not know much japanese. I am a high school student, too. I am a junior in high school.

My name is Kevin. Nice to meet you.

I do know some japanese, and this is what I managed to translate:

Watashi wa kookoo-sei mo desu

This is how I did it in japanese, please correct:

わたしわこ一こ一せいもです。

Mandylion · 25 May 2004

Howdy - you are doing okay so far...it ain't perfect but the meaning comes across ok. If we did everything for you it wouldn't be much fun would it Keep it up, you are doing great

BTW, she posts her e-mail address and it look slike she wants a language partner. Why don't you give her an e-mail too?

Glenn · 25 May 2004

GoldCoinLover said:
Watashi wa kookoo-sei mo desu

This is how I did it in japanese, please correct:

わたしわこ一こ一せいもです。

Like @Mandylion said, you're close. I'll give you some hints. First, the topic marker wa is written as は. This is due to historical reasons. There are a few other case markers (or postpositions, I'm not sure which terminology you want to use) that are similar in this regard. They are へ and を, which are pronounced e and o, respectively.

Next, don't put any case particles (postpositions) after a noun if it comes directly before the copula (that's the "to be" verb, in Japanese da or desu). So you can't grammatically say わたしはこうこうせいもです。 Here's a hint as to how to say it: you want to say "I, too, am a high school student."

Lastly, you wrote ko ichi ko ichi instead of koukou (or kookoo, as you have romanized it). Now, it is obvious that you wanted to use the vowel lengthening mark for the long vowels, but that isn't used with hiragana usually, only with katakana. In hiragana, you actually write out the vowel, but there are some rules as to how to do it correctly.

Alright, I think this should be enough for now. If you need more information you can follow the link to "Teach Yourself Japanese" in my signature; that site has plenty of basic grammar information that you would find useful. では、がんばってくださいね！

GoldCoinLover · 25 May 2004

Confusing. You say "wa" even though you write the particular "wa" as "ha", though, right?

I always misput where I put my particles, :arghh:

This was your advice: "I, too, am a high school student"

Well, it could be this (although I don't think you can put two particals together)

watashi wa mo kookoo-sei desu.

or,

watashi mo wa kookoo-sei desu.

Bah ... I'm not sure ..

Glenn · 25 May 2004

GoldCoinLover said:
Confusing. You say "wa" even though you write the particular "wa" as "ha", though, right?

Right.

GoldCoinLover said:
I always misput where I put my particles, :arghh:

This was your advice: "I, too, am a high school student"

Well, it could be this (although I don't think you can put two particles together)

watashi wa mo kookoo-sei desu.

or,

watashi mo wa kookoo-sei desu.

Bah ... I'm not sure ..

Close. Here is another piece of knowlege: the topic marker wa overrides the particles ga and o. The "inclusion" marker (I'm not sure exactly what it's called) acts just like the topic marker does. So now all you have to do is drop wa entirely.

GoldCoinLover · 25 May 2004

Ah I see, here, would this work well:

watashi mo kookoo-sei desu.

Or..

watashi ga kookoo-sei mo desu.

I go to japanese online all the time and study there, real helpful. I just don't know where to put the particles..

PS: I'd write it out in japanese too but I cannot find a downloadable program that lets me write kana and kanji easily. Instead, I had to copy and paste all the kana onto wordpad, I then copy and paste each kana seperately, to form words. It's very time comsuming ..

Glenn · 25 May 2004

GoldCoinLover said:
Ah I see, here, would this work well:

watashi mo kookoo-sei desu.

Or..

watashi ga kookoo-sei mo desu.

It's the first one. The second one is just wrong.

GoldCoinLover said:
I go to japanese online all the time and study there, real helpful. I just don't know where to put the particles..

Check out the other link in my sig.

GoldCoinLover said:
PS: I'd write it out in japanese too but I cannot find a downloadable program that lets me write kana and kanji easily. Instead, I had to copy and paste all the kana onto wordpad, I then copy and paste each kana seperately, to form words. It's very time comsuming ..

I use NJStar Communicator.

GoldCoinLover · 26 May 2004

Ok I got a response from her here is what she said .. I have no clue what it means..

????どういういみ？

Roots · 26 May 2004

GoldCoinLover said:
Ok I got a response from her here is what she said .. I have no clue what it means..

????どういういみ？

LOL, it says "????What are you trying to say?" or "What do you mean?"

Elizabeth · 26 May 2004

What did you say exactly?

GoldCoinLover · 26 May 2004

This is what I said...

わたしわこ一こ一せいもです。

I guess the 一 confused her.

It should've been:

わたしは ko(o)ko(o)sei desu.

Elizabeth · 26 May 2004

わたしもこうこうせいです。 (Watashi mo koukousei desu) is correct

GoldCoinLover · 26 May 2004

How do I use the NJstar communicator? It's hard! I click the japanese interface and I can't type in any english. I don't know how to input any japanese..what do I do?

Glenn · 26 May 2004

I'm not sure that I understand what the problem is. Alright, when you open the communicator you get the little strip, right? So move the cursor over the strip, and click on the keyboard icon. From there, select "Japanese input." That will bring up a bar at the bottom of your screen and some tips. You can read through the tips to get an idea of how to use the program. You can switch from Japanese to English input by simply hitting "ctrl." When it says "英数Ascii," it's in English input mode, and when it says "Romaji," it's in Japanese input mode. If you still need help then try to be specific about what problem you are having, and I will help you as best as I can.

GoldCoinLover · 26 May 2004

I got it fixed, thanks. Works great!! I now can type japanese faster than a mad bird , hehe.

Could you translate this into japanese for me? I want to write haruka this but I don't know how to say it:

I'm 16 years old. How is life like in japan? Just recently, I had a dream about I was in japan and purchased a eletronic device that wasn't available in america yet. Japan always gets it first. I don't have MSN messenger but I will get it just to talk with you. I like to collect coins, and I LOVE pocky. It's my favorite candy.

Good luck!

Glenn · 26 May 2004

GoldCoinLover said:
I'm 16 years old. How is life like in japan? Just recently, I had a dream about I was in japan and purchased a eletronic device that wasn't available in america yet. Japan always gets it first. I don't have MSN messenger but I will get it just to talk with you. I like to collect coins, and I LOVE pocky. It's my favorite candy.

Good luck!

Well, my Japanese isn't the most natural, but I'll give it a shot anyway.

私は16歳です。日本の生活はどうですか。最近、アメリカでまだ手にできない電器の機械を日本で買った夢を見ましたよ。日本はいつも先に手に入れますよね。私はMSN messenger がありませんが、あなたに話すためにこそ手に入れてみせますよ。硬貨を集めるのが好きで、ポッキーも大好き！私の気に入りのアメですよ。

がんばってね！

Golgo_13 · 26 May 2004

That's pretty good except "Ame" is more like a lollypop or a Lifesaver.

Pocky would be more like "Okashi"

"Te NI iretemisemasuyo" instead of "Te NO"

Elizabeth · 26 May 2004

Is just 手に出来ない OK for not available ? I always thought it was 手に入りません or
入手に出来ない

Golgo_13 · 27 May 2004

IMO 手に入りません is best.

Much much better than "Getto suru". Which I hate!

PaulTB · 27 May 2004

Golgo_13 said:
IMO 手に入りません is best.

Much much better than "Getto suru". Which I hate!

面白い言葉をゲットして、日本語能力をレベル・アップ！

Golgo_13 · 27 May 2004

otherwise you'll get "risutora" and the company will "cost down".

I'm gonna go ride in my "open car." I have to stop at a "konbini" on my way to "rihabiri." But I won't make a "free dial" call while I'm driving.

:sorry:

Glenn · 28 May 2004

Golgo_13 said:
That's pretty good except "Ame" is more like a lollypop or a Lifesaver.

Pocky would be more like "Okashi"

Ah yes, お菓子. I forgot all about that one. I was trying to pull a word for "candy" off of the top of my head, and あめ was all that was there.

Golgo_13 said:
"Te NI iretemisemasuyo" instead of "Te NO"

Oops, must've been a typo. At least I hope it was a typo.

Golgo_13 · 28 May 2004

Glenn said:
Ah yes, お菓子. I forgot all about that one. I was trying to pull a word for "candy" off of the top of my head, and あめ was all that was there.

Un. "Okashi" to iwanakattara okashii yo!

Dajare=a silly pun.

Demo pan wa taberu mono janai!

Macchi de asondara kono machi ga moeru zo!

Takuan shika okazu ga naikedo, gohan takuwan.

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