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How you were first introduced to Jrock/pop/visual kei

T_T i want to order online but mum wont let me...grr
 
I need money, but I am alright on the parent and ordering factor...I suppose I got lucky? For once...
 
My dad won't let me either...And then I mentioned it to my mom and she was immediately "NO!!"

Apparently you did get lucky...
 
I started listening to Jpop one day when I was at my friend's house..she was watching the V6 live performance for Believe your Smile...so then I sorta kinda downloaded it and listened to it all new years eve...over and over again even if it was turning to midnight...from then one I fell in love with jpop..much that same way I got into to jorck..one day I was at my friends house and she made me watch the Malice Mizer video for Illuminaty...it was kinda scary and I didn't think I'd end up liking Gackt, but then we watched the Malice Mizer concert and suddenly broke in to piano and I feel in love with him and his music..
 
It really is hard not to love Jrock! But with Americans...they have the problem where if the song is not sung in clear english they wont listen to it. No matter how good it is!! They have a problem with it and it gets to me alot. Like when they streotype anime as Yu Gi Oh and Pokemon and call it crap they think that all anime is like that so they refuse to watch more. Americans are close minded and stupid (sorry if I offend anyone!!) I live in America but I refuse to call myself an American because I dont agree with the American views...
 
I don't think it's just Americans though who are like that. Most English (and ONLY English) speakers are, or at least North Americans.

And my brother does that; stereotypes anime and whatnot because of the "crap" he's seen...But then again, he hasn't given it a chance. He's more of the type that just doesn't like it because it's not in English and plus, he's actually a rascist, so...:angryfire

But this is coming from a 17, almost 18 year old boy who still likes the Ninja Turtles and has Tinkerbell (sp?) on his wallet, so...
 
People are like that EVERYWHERE. No need to generalize one area. The US has tons of anime cons, with tens of thousands of people coming to them.

And Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are incredibly awesome. Unless it's the NEW ones.
 
True, but I think English people are just slightly more worse. A lot of them think that just because something isn't in English, that it's not worth their time

Plus, a lot of them also think that people should all just learn how to speak English and stuff...

(I'm not sure if I worded that correctly...xDD)

Both of those are probably the direct causes of them being oh-so very, very aware that English is the dominant langauge...Although I don't think a lot of them realize just how difficult English is too learn, let alone master, if it isn't your first language...

Does Canada have a lot of anime cons too...? I can't remember...

And yeah, but how many people live in America...? Millions and millions!

And maybe the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles would still be at least a little bit good, if my brother didn't have pictures hanging all over the house of them. And if he'd quite making fun of the fact that I like anime, because, after all, a lot of anime at least has adult themes and isn't directed mainly at 5-10 year old boys...

And I'll shut up now...^^;;
 
Oh, you're speaking of the British people? I thought we were talking about Americans. SILLY ME! Or maybe you did indeed word it incorrectly.
 
If I meant the English as in the British, I'd say -gasp- THE BRITISH!!!! Who'd have ever thought?!?!?

And I wasn't just talking about Americans; I was also talking about most Canadians.

Most North Americans if you will

What I mean is a lot of people listen to English music, regardless if they can barely speak a word of it or not, but most English speakers don't seem to give their music a chance and they even insult it, without ever listening to it.

Probably afraid of the culture! God forbid they WITNESS CULTURE!! xD
 
Aheh. The English are the British. Americans are another animal completely. And since you've obviously spoken to and gotten the opinion of 'most' of the English speakers of the world, I'll leave you and your fine opinions alone.

Lydia
 
I agree with Horizon. My mom is always like "What CD do you want? Oh, that japanese sh*t...". She can't stand to listen to it just because they're speaking a different language (She doesn't like Rammstein, either). She can't seem to undertsand that the music is just as good, and lots of times better, than american artists. She doesn't like anime, either, just because it's japanese.

And for whatever reason, she can't comprehend that people over the age of 15 make japanese culture their number one passtime. It's not like it's something kids made up...it's a place, heh.
 
Illaparatzo-sama said:
People are like that EVERYWHERE. No need to generalize one area. The US has tons of anime cons, with tens of thousands of people coming to them.

And Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are incredibly awesome. Unless it's the NEW ones.
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True, and I wasnt just talking about the Japanese language. People in the average US person doesnt like things that aren't in englih. Remember that 90% of what goes on at cons is english dubbed stuff not the Japanese. I am rather annoyed by the club they started at my school for anime for example. I figured that we could watch things undubbed and be ok but the only thing they actually watched undubbed was a Dragonball GT VHS so they had no choice. I heard the other day they were playing the Yu Gi Oh card game....
-_-;;;

But all that is beside the point....

And yes the old Ninja turtles do rock!! I can say noting about the Tinkerbell thing though.....
 
Oh god...the Yu-Gi-Oh virus struck your club, too...? -pets, comforts-
 
I left after I realized they were only going to play things dubbed and they weren't gong to play anything that wouldnt be played on Toonami....It really sux....Thanx though!! ^-^ *pats you on the head*
 
Making a country's culture your number one past time is a very strange thing indeed. I've been to numerous cons, by the way, and I see a fair split between dub and sub. Most new aquisitions by the companies are displayed subbed. The dealer's hall has no less of one than the other.

Lydia
 
And yet, Lydia, aren't you one of those generalizing so-called "fangirls"...?

What's the difference?

And yes, I'd have to say most Americans sure aren't of the same species as everyone else...

And my dad calls Japanese music "JapCrap" and calls all the JRockers "JapFreaks" or possibly even "faggots" if my brother's around. And they both seem to like to go on about their, ummm..."smallness"...0.o
 
I dont care about fangirlism. I say if you are a fan and a girl then you are a fangirl. some are just more extreme then others.*points to self*

But yeh that is true. however alot more people come because of the dubbed stuff. I see less and less people around who really like watching things subbed. Even if they like it better then the dubbed they tend to be to lazy to actually read the subtitles while watching it and unless,fluent(scuse my spelling) in Japanese, they dont understand what they are saying. thus there is a drop in jrock/pop fans because they dont know what they are saying and dont want to take the time to look up the lyrics.
 
I'M A FANGIRL!! -cough- Erm...uumm..anyway...

I usually prefer stuff dubbed, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying japanese music, or german, or mexican, or whatever. I enjoy the music, and the way the singer's voice blends with that music. I connect with the message of a song after I find out that I like the way it sounds. I think that's what gives me the ability to like all kinds of music, and not limit myself to dark, angsty songs, or sappy pop songs, or lighthearted country tunes. I like it all. ^.^"
 
Illaparatzo-sama said:
No. Want to point something out?
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Yeah! Actually I want to point out a HELL of a lot of stuff!

But I guess I'll just stick to this...:

I don't remember what board it was, or who said it (it even might have been you. I wouldn't be surprised...>.>), but someone was going on about how we shouldn't be generalizing JRock stuff and saying it's all better than English music, because apparently it's not "right" to generalize, and yet, that person, and people who agreed with him/her, generalize so-called fangirls ALL the time, do they not?

"Oh! They only like the music because they think they're hot!"

"Oh! They all want to have Gackt's babies!"

Yatta, yatta, yatta!

More than just slightly hypocritical, isn't it...?
 
No, I meant point something out that can be directly attributed to me. That's pretty vague. I can't recall saying anything like "Oh! They only like the music because they think they're hot!", or "Oh! They all want to have Gackt's babies!".

Neeeevermiiiiind.
 
I could do that, but then I'd have to remember. I've got too bad a memory to do so though.

Plus, I'm not all that good at getting my point across anyway, so meh...
 
And still I see the fighting....will it never end? *sigh*

Ah, I enjoy mine subbed as I am terrible with my Japanese and I am so busy with school that I haven't had thetime to continue with my lessons....^^;;; but I am trying hard to start up again so...

fan girl??? Welllll I guess we can call you a fan girl, but wouldn't it be easier just to call you something like an overly feminine Fan boy odr something? lol XD
 
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