Gackt Or Hyde?

JoRuDeNnA · 25 Apr 2006

Noseybonk said:
I don't think I have heard any Hydes music. I have got Gackts Diabolos album and he has a fair voice. BTW can you recommend any other of his albums?:?
I've seen Moonchild, though, and Hyde seems the better actor. More natural, so it is difficult to choose. Maybe you should have put a third choice, Both as Good as each other, for us wimps who can't decide

LOL I agree!!! I mean there's no need to fight just all of us expressing our own opinion! I THINK they are both very talented...and even though I dont find Hyde THAT cute/pretty/hot/insert any other adjective I think he isnt a bad looking guy; personally I prefer Gackt I think he's beautiful. Im not a singer and I dont know almost anything about voices ( I only sang in a musical but didnt have an important role hehehe) but I think both of them have incredible ones, each of them different; again in my personal opinion I like Gackt's better. Well Over all I prefer Gackt but I do admire/like Hyde because there's no doubt he's an awsome singer!

butterbrickle · 25 Apr 2006

Well, whatever. I'm going to stop talking about their images now. I do see similarity in my personality and Gackt's image, so that's likely influenced my preference.

I find Hyde's eyes special. I've seen a lot of Caucasians with his type of eyes, but not Asians, so I guess that might be why. I saw some pictures that are supposed to be of highschool!Hyde, and his eyes looked somewhat different. Makes me wonder if he's had surgery. I like Hyde's eyes, but Gackt's face (and eyes) just have a heartbreaking quality, e.g. in the Secret Garden pv.

Hyde_is_my_anti-drug · 25 Apr 2006

Oh, my God!! If one more person says a J-Rocker's had surgery I will seriously scream!!! Hyde's eyes may look different because of that famous injury or maybe because people change as they grow, it's NATURAL. If you look at my childhood pictures my eyes look a bit different then they do now. Does that mean I've had surgery? NO. People change as they grow, that's why it's called growing.
Why does EVERYONE have to think that every single J-Rocker under the sun has had surgery??? Honestly! What is with you people? People say Gackt's completely plastic which isn't true, say that Miyavi's had work done, and now Hyde?? Good God people! Oh, and of course everyone just ignores the one person in J-Music who actually IS plastic while accusing everyone else of it even though they either haven't had it at all or have had very little. Lay off the poor J-Rockers, will ya? It is completely possible to be BORN that pretty, I swear! Just look at a pic of a Tokyo street, you will find PLENTY of bishounen and bishoujo and you can't tell me every single one of them has had surgery.

I apologize for my little out burst but seriously people leave the poor J-Rockers the hell alone.

Rancid__ · 25 Apr 2006

Hyde_is_my_anti-drug said:
Oh, my God!! If one more person says a J-Rocker's had surgery I will seriously scream!!! Hyde's eyes may look different because of that famous injury or maybe because people change as they grow, it's NATURAL. If you look at my childhood pictures my eyes look a bit different then they do now. Does that mean I've had surgery? NO. People change as they grow, that's why it's called growing.
Why does EVERYONE have to think that every single J-Rocker under the sun has had surgery??? Honestly! What is with you people? People say Gackt's completely plastic which isn't true, say that Miyavi's had work done, and now Hyde?? Good God people! Oh, and of course everyone just ignores the one person in J-Music who actually IS plastic while accusing everyone else of it even though they either haven't had it at all or have had very little. Lay off the poor J-Rockers, will ya? It is completely possible to be BORN that pretty, I swear! Just look at a pic of a Tokyo street, you will find PLENTY of bishounen and bishoujo and you can't tell me every single one of them has had surgery.
I apologize for my little out burst but seriously people leave the poor J-Rockers the hell alone.

What injury? i don't know anything about that..☝

Mycernius · 25 Apr 2006

Isn't there a thread about Gackt before and after surgery? *must remember to check*
What's the big deal, at least he doesn't look like he is falling apart, not like Wacko Jacko. If you have the money and wish to look better, why not? It's not harming anyone is it. Doesn't make them any better at singing, or worse.

I checked and found the thread
This Will Shock You What Gackt Looked Like Before Plastic Surgery!
Knew it was somewhere, 'cos I checked through them recently and this caught my eye

Ophelia · 25 Apr 2006

Hyde_is_my_anti-drug said:
Oh, my God!! If one more person says a J-Rocker's had surgery I will seriously scream!!! Hyde's eyes may look different because of that famous injury or maybe because people change as they grow, it's NATURAL. If you look at my childhood pictures my eyes look a bit different then they do now. Does that mean I've had surgery? NO. People change as they grow, that's why it's called growing.
QUOTE]

that's right, for example, me, i didnt have any eye fold when i was little, but when i was in the 6th grade my left eye got a fold, the right one's came up when i was in the junior high..

Ophelia · 25 Apr 2006

_mari_ said:
I voted for HYDE.
Gackt is doubtless talented, but he's too robotic. There's never a spontaneous moment with him; everything seems calculated or contrived. He's also blatantly narcissistic, which is rather obnoxious and turn off-y.
Voice-wise, Gackt is good. It's not anything that'll pull at my heartstrings, make me shed a tear or whatever. His incessant vibrato is rather annoying, too; he needs to learn how to control it. If it's deliberate, then...I really can't say anything, except: WHY?
(One word: Vanilla. *shudders*)
I do give Gackt props for his music, though. It's pretty good. A talented musician, I can't dispute.
hyde appeals to me more because he comes across as the genuine article: what you see is essentially what you get, but with that underlying aura of mystery that makes him so attractive.
Voice-wise, I share the same sentiment as everyone else: there's more raw talent. It's wild, un-harnessed...beautiful. If you listen to songs like "hitomi no jounin", "Anemone", "As if in a dream", "finale", "ibara no namida", "hoshizora", "yokan", anything off ROENTGEN, you'll understand where I'm coming from. Overall, the proper adjective to describe his voice would be "haunting". And yes, I, Mari, The Ice Queen, have shed a tear or two listening to him sing.
Also, some of my favorite L'Arc songs ("ibara no namida", "LORELEY", "Sell My Soul", etc.) are ones hyde composed, so he definitely commands my respect in regards to his musicianship.
And now, ladies and gentlemen, the final judgment: LOOKS.
HYDE > Gackt.
back in the day...

Ser'ously.

i'm 100% agree!!

Hyde_is_my_anti-drug · 26 Apr 2006

Rancid__ said:
What injury? i don't know anything about that..☝

I don't know the details but when he was younger he got hit in the eye, or something, and that's why one of his eyes won't open as far as the other now. And that's ANOTHER thing! If he'd had surgery don't you think he would have fixed that?? I don't think he's had anything done, I think he really is just that gorgeous all on his own.

Noseybonk said:
What's the big deal, at least he doesn't look like he is falling apart, not like Wacko Jacko.

Please, don't call him that. His name's Micheal Jackson.

Ophelia · 26 Apr 2006

hyde has a beautiful eyes, but it's just so sad that he cant see colors, to him the world is just black and whiteT___T he never see colors(which is so essential for life!) i always thought that he only cant see reddish colors, but then i found out that he also cant any primary color except blue, that means he cant see any other colors beside a little bit of blue!(thats y he collects and interested to blue glasses)

_mari_ · 26 Apr 2006

I don't believe hyde's had eye surgery, especially when you look at really old indies photos (in fact, his eyes were even larger those days -- an indication that he's aged naturally). Any kind of procedure is very costly and back then (the days before lid surgery was a rampant disease in East Asia) his financial status was pretty shabby; they were poor, to paraphrase his own words. (I also, despite being a "halfling", didn't develop a noticeable double-lid till much later in life.)

very old photo

not as old

and that prominent of a double-lid is too hard to fake

(actually, if you ask me, the most significant change would be in his eyebrows)

Okay. I'm out.

_mari_ · 26 Apr 2006

Never mind.

Hyde_is_my_anti-drug said:
I don't know the details but when he was younger he got hit in the eye, or something, and that's why one of his eyes won't open as far as the other now.

In an interview hyde said that he was riding his bike with some friends, was lagging behind, so when he crashed into a deep ditch, his friends didn't notice. When he fell, he also received a whopping gash on his neck next to a major artery (one that helps control motor skills on the left side of the body); he was bleeding profusely and going in and out of conciousness. If this old man hadn't just happened to be passing by, he speculates that he probably would have bled to death.

EDIT:

you can see it clearly, here

Izumi-kun · 26 Apr 2006

Gah. So hard to choose :? .... But I'll have to go with Gackt

butterbrickle · 26 Apr 2006

Hyde_is_my_anti-drug said:
Oh, my God!! If one more person says a J-Rocker's had surgery I will seriously scream!!! Hyde's eyes may look different because of that famous injury or maybe because people change as they grow, it's NATURAL. If you look at my childhood pictures my eyes look a bit different then they do now. Does that mean I've had surgery? NO. People change as they grow, that's why it's called growing.
Why does EVERYONE have to think that every single J-Rocker under the sun has had surgery??? Honestly! What is with you people? People say Gackt's completely plastic which isn't true, say that Miyavi's had work done, and now Hyde?? Good God people! Oh, and of course everyone just ignores the one person in J-Music who actually IS plastic while accusing everyone else of it even though they either haven't had it at all or have had very little. Lay off the poor J-Rockers, will ya? It is completely possible to be BORN that pretty, I swear! Just look at a pic of a Tokyo street, you will find PLENTY of bishounen and bishoujo and you can't tell me every single one of them has had surgery.

I apologize for my little out burst but seriously people leave the poor J-Rockers the hell alone.

1) I wasn't talking about Jrockers. Just Hyde. Miyavi isn't plastic, Gackt isn't plastic, Ayu might be plastic, WHATEVER.
2) If you're so sure he didn't have the surgery, why the rampant use of exclamation marks and caps? Slightly touchy?
3) I didn't SAY he had surgery. I said he might have.
4) The pictures I saw were older than the indie ones. His eyes looked different from the indie pics.

Oh, and I'm Asian. I think I know how pretty we can be.

Hmm. Never knew about the injury before.

_mari_ · 26 Apr 2006

butterbrickle said:
4) The pictures I saw were older than the indie ones. His eyes looked different from the indie pics.

As far as I know, there's only one clear picture of hyde from his high school days (I'm referring to the black and white mug shot). He does look more oriental, but so did my grandfather at that age (his face was more fleshy, an indication of youth). I can say for a fact that as he approached his mid-20s and 30s, he began to look more occidental, in his eyes especially, despite being full-blooded Japanese. If he wasn't my grandfather and I met him in his prime...

hey, I'd tap that.

EDIT:
couple shots pre-high scool

butterbrickle · 26 Apr 2006

Well they claimed it was Hyde and it looked kinda like him, shrug. But I heard something about Asian skin getting looser as the person grows up, which makes the eyes look bigger, so maybe that's why.

elanor · 26 Apr 2006

Ophelia said:
hyde has a beautiful eyes, but it's just so sad that he cant see colors, to him the world is just black and whiteT___T he never see colors(which is so essential for life!) i always thought that he only cant see reddish colors, but then i found out that he also cant any primary color except blue, that means he cant see any other colors beside a little bit of blue!(thats y he collects and interested to blue glasses)

Uh... I thought hyde was Red/Green colour blind. Total colour blindness is EXTREMELY rare and that case of colour blindness you've described... I'm not even sure if it exists. He must have some pretty weird rods and cones in his eye to get that ☝

The Red/Green category. This is the most common form of colour blindness and would mean that he gets red and green a bit confused. There are different levels of severity. Some only can't tell them apart when it's light coloured, others can't tell them apart even if they're brightly coloured.

I always thought that hyde only has difficulty telling apart the lighter shades of pink and pale green. This doesn't pose as a problem in daily life but if he were to pursue a career in art, it does become a bit of a problem.

Where did you read about him being total colour blind except to blue?

Lady Blue · 26 Apr 2006

butterbrickle said:
Well, hyde is my antidrug has already said about all I wanted to say. It's not Gackt's fault he's beautiful and effeminate. And god, did he ever run around in dresses like Hyde? How can you say he tries too hard next to Mana?
And I'm only curious: going by their faces alone, why do you think Hyde is prettier than Gackt? What about Hyde's face makes it better in your opinion?

(Gackt is getting no love in this forum. Poor guy.)

1. I'm not sure, but I think his malewho outfit is pretty close... And I have a pic of him wearing a pretty kimono and you can swear he's a woman.
2. I think girls think of Hyde's face as prettier because he looks a bit more lika guy. He has more... masculine features (at least now he does).

It's quite a decition to make here. I definetly voted Gackt. I fell inlove with the guy even before i saw a picture of him. and once i did.. I could never leave him anymore.

Both voices sound very very good, each in it's own way, and they're definetly better like.. as to say: Klaha (lets not go there). Hyde's voice cheers me up; Gackt's voice calms and relaxes me, no matter what they singing.

I believe Gackt has definetly had a least one surgery, but i like plastic!!!

Yes.. Hyde is better actor than Gackt... no comments aside.

I guess what makes them both so atractive is the way they have been presented to people. Hyde is more natural, like.. a real man. We know facts about Hyde, even his name!! (which I cant remember now)-
Gackt has always been presented as an enigma. I have a pic of him from High school, and he was cute, but had nothing particularly.. astonishing. BUT, he's always been kept in the mistery: No name but Gackt, no birthdate, no nothing!! We are fed in the illusion of him being a Vampire and we just love that.

They have very different styles, but it doesnt matter. Not even they're sexuality matters for us!! I mean, Hyde's married, but Gackt's deeply in love with him and we just cant help to love them both, can we?

elanor · 26 Apr 2006

Lady Blue said:
I mean, Hyde's married, but Gackt's deeply in love with him

the f**k?
Get away from me you Gackhai fan.

_mari_ · 27 Apr 2006

Unless hyde states officially what kind of color blindness he has (which, as far as I'm aware, he hasn't, but I could be enlightened)... everything is just speculation.

Ophelia · 27 Apr 2006

yeah it's all just speculation,i read in some indonesian forum some1 said that he cant see green and red which means he cannot see purple too, or orange and other colors thats contain red or green. i dunno if it's true or not though

Yes.. Hyde is better actor than Gackt... no comments aside.

lolz the funny thing

is in my opinion gackt is a better actor, such an irony.

see?

JoRuDeNnA · 27 Apr 2006

Hyde_is_my_anti-drug said:
Oh, my God!! If one more person says a J-Rocker's had surgery I will seriously scream!!! Hyde's eyes may look different because of that famous injury or maybe because people change as they grow, it's NATURAL. If you look at my childhood pictures my eyes look a bit different then they do now. Does that mean I've had surgery? NO. People change as they grow, that's why it's called growing.
Why does EVERYONE have to think that every single J-Rocker under the sun has had surgery??? Honestly! What is with you people? People say Gackt's completely plastic which isn't true, say that Miyavi's had work done, and now Hyde?? Good God people! Oh, and of course everyone just ignores the one person in J-Music who actually IS plastic while accusing everyone else of it even though they either haven't had it at all or have had very little. Lay off the poor J-Rockers, will ya? It is completely possible to be BORN that pretty, I swear! Just look at a pic of a Tokyo street, you will find PLENTY of bishounen and bishoujo and you can't tell me every single one of them has had surgery.
I apologize for my little out burst but seriously people leave the poor J-Rockers the hell alone.

I support you on that....besides if any of them did had a surgery so what??? its their life not ours.....I dont like ppl judging others just because they want to! I think thats none of our bussines ☝

It is completely possible to be BORN that pretty, I swear! Just look at a pic of a Tokyo street, you will find PLENTY of bishounen and bishoujo and you can't tell me every single one of them has had surgery.

OMG totaly agree!!! I havent been to Japan but I arrived to Las Vegas at the same time as a Japanese tour and there were lots of really cute guys/girls.

the f**k?
Get away from me you Gackhai fan.

Its not my problem, I know....but that was kinda rude neh?
Ok Im sorry :sorry: ill shut up now I dont want to have my first fight heheheh *runs and hides under the bed*

Mycernius · 27 Apr 2006

I'm just wondering if Hyde has OFFICALLY had any surgery? I know Gackt has, or at least think so. :? I'm so confused by it all
I've just got some more Gackt music off ebay. Yeahhh for ebay. Saviour for all my hard to get music needs

JoRuDeNnA · 27 Apr 2006

Noseybonk said:
I'm just wondering if Hyde has OFFICALLY had any surgery? I know Gackt has, or at least think so. :? I'm so confused by it all
I've just got some more Gackt music off ebay. Yeahhh for ebay. Saviour for all my hard to get music needs

Thats cool!!! which album did you get?? I wish I had enough money heheh

Mycernius · 27 Apr 2006

Mars, Rebirth, Cresent and Love letters. Not bad for 19 quid

Izumi-kun · 27 Apr 2006

Noseybonk said:
Mars, Rebirth, Cresent and Love letters. Not bad for 19 quid

The only Gackt CD I have is Love Letter. The rest are on mixed CDs I need to buy a few more Problem is..... where to get the money

Gackt Or Hyde?

which of them u like better?

GACKT

HYDE

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