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And you did it again.Mistakes in my corrected efforts. ouch.
2)へやははいってください。
9) 自転車を借りてください。
The present form also expresses the present habit, for instance, 朝起きて、新聞を読みます。 can mean "I wake up, and read a newspaper every morning".An 'in the present' example. I will do this then that.
I will treat myself to an english language textbook after i finish Genki.
2)We both know I did not type へやは on purpose. right?..And you did it again.
2) へやにはいってください。
9) 自転車を借りてもいいですか。
Many thanks to Buntaro and yourself for demystifying somewhat the early chapters of Genki.
ムスタッシュを触ってはいけません。Don't touch my mustache!
Right, so I wrote "you did it(=typo) again".2)We both know I did not type へやは on purpose. right?
SD,
I want to talk more about dialogue-writing. Write short, four-sentence dialogues. Here is an example:
Put in words that are difficult to write in katakana, for example, "water', "forum" and "Wake Island".
For hiragana, make sure you have the right stroke order for all of the characters. Watch this video:
Both catchy and educational. An instant nostalgic classic. Beautiful. It would be rude not to practice writing these loan words at least twice.See how well you can write out each word in katakana.
I can see how this format teaches, for example, adjective past negatives which I am keen to practice.Write dialogues for all of the important grammar points: present tense, past tense, present perfect, subjunctive mood, etc. (Present perfect can be particularly tricky in Japanese.)
I can see how practicing tough katakana would be useful as katakana creates sounds that are not possible with hiragana. In order to understand it must be studied. Good point.
先週は大変でした。コンピューターと歴史の宿題がありましたから。
sennsyuu ha daihenndeshita. konnpiuutaa to rekishi no shukudai ga arimaskara.
I had a tough weekend because I had computer and history homework.
あの映画を見ません。怖い映画が大嫌いですかれ。
ano eiga wo mimasenn. kowaieiga ga daikiraidesukara.
I did not watch that movies because I hate scary movies.
だ here is ungrammatical.美味しいだから。
昨日テストを休みました。
kinou tesuto wo yasumimashita. sennshuu, maibann benkyoushimashitakara.
Yesterdays test was easy because I studied for it every night last week.
ジョークは面白いだから。
あれの教科書 is unnatural, and あの教科書 would be preferred.アレの教科書
tomodachi ni kyoukasho wo karimashita. are no kyoukasho wo wasuremashitakara.
I borrowed my freinds notebook because I had lost mine.
...katakana creates sounds that are not possible with hiragana...
Thank you Buntaro. I will take my time and listen to examples. It was the small ユ in コンピューター that had me wondering about the pronounciation.This is an important point that needs to be covered. There are many sounds in English that do not exist in Japanese. As a result, it was necessary to establish corresponding katakana characters and character-combinations for these 'English-only' sounds Here are a few examples.
大変 is たいへん, not だいへん。 先週 does not mean "last weekend". The reading of ありましたから is not arimaskara.
I have no excuses.The verb 休む means "to rest" or "to take off", as in, to take a day off from classes or work. It can never mean "was easy". The particle を also indicates the direct object, so for example,. 昨日、会社を休みました would mean "Yesterday, I took the day off from work." Hopefully you can see from that why テストを休みました simply cannot mean anything like "the test was easy".
2."mimasen" (not "mimasenn") does not mean "did not watch".
I was trying to be cool and use おれ instead of わたし but failed...あれの教科書 is unnatural, and あの教科書 would be preferred.
Still, neither one means "my textbook", yes? (あの does not mean "my", right?)
That's an important point. You need to differentiate ヤユヨ and ャュョ strictly. びよういん and びょういん are completely different in meaning.It was the small ユ in コンピューター that had me wondering about the pronounciation.
Your translation is still wrong. 見ません shows future tense, or the speaker's will "not to do".2.
Q:あの映画を見ません。
I have not watched that movie.
Keep in mind that 俺 could sound rude depending on the situation. I recommend using standard ones until you grasp the correct nuance of words.I was trying to be cool and use おれ instead of わたし but failed...
俺の教科書。
僕の教科書。
私の教科書。
Yes, all correct.だから。being ungrammatical. I was trying to be cool and use だ instead of です。I think all these are ok.
具合が悪いから。
具合が悪いですから。
美味しいですから。
美味しいから。
typo: 大嫌いですから.怖い映画が大嫌いですかれ。
教科書 is textbook, not notebook.6)
友達に教科書を借りました。アレの教科書を忘れましたから。
tomodachi ni kyoukasho wo karimashita. are no kyoukasho wo wasuremashitakara.
I borrowed my freinds notebook because I had lost mine.
These conversions do not always occur. There are other transliterations, for instance ティ for "ti" or ディ for "di". プラスティック is also common for "plastic", or "tea" and "tee (golf)" is always written as ティー, not チー. Similarly "disc" is ディスク, not ジスク.1. ti --> chi: plastic --> プラスチック purasuchikku
7. di --> ji: radio --> ラジオ rajio
It was the small ユ in コンピューター that had me wondering about the pronounciation.
I can. I must slow down, read, read again and visualise. I am aware that Japanese is not ambiguous and I must work hard to develop the abilty to properly translate.Speaking strictly, "I borrowed my friend's textbook" is 友達の教科書を借りました。. 友達に教科書を借りました。 is "I borrowed a textbook from my friend." Can you see the difference?
Your translation is still wrong. 見ません shows future tense, or the speaker's will "not to do".
I was so sure I was correct but I got it wrong again! A piece of the puzzle was missing it seems. I am happy to be studying the present perfect. Thank you Genki! and Jref Learning Japanese forum members for helping those who wish to study. I guess I can come back to Chapter 6->Practice->5B later. Re: Present, past form confusion? I read the whole thread and managed to understand 90%. Your post #6 is very informative. I will pay close attention to tense when translating and forming Japanese as I work my way through Chapter sevens exercises. Late evening study and Godan keyboard I will try to avoid from on. Windows IME is proper word processingThe translation into English is not correct. It should be, "I do not watch that movie." You are now entering into the realm of Present Perfect! Congratulations!
just only two simple typosChapter 7->Practice-> 1.
A: Look at the pictures and answer the questions.
Example
Q:メアリーさんは何をしていますか。
A:メアリーさんはテレビを見ています。
1)。。。本を読んでいます。hon o yonde imasu.
2)。。。泳いでいます。oyoite imasu.
3)。。。花を撮っています。hana o totte imasu.
4)。。。勉強しています。benkyoushite imasu.
5)。。。歌っています。utatte imasu.
6)。。。はなしてます。hanashite imasu.
7)。。。待っています。matte imasu.
8)。。。ゲームをしています。 geemu o shite imasu.
9)。。。テニスをしています。 tenisu o shite imasu.
10)。。。お茶を飲んでいます。 ocha o nonde imasu.
11)。。。電話をかけています。denwa o kakete imasu.
Notice that the question is "What were you doing at the following times yesterday?" and the given example in Genki is actuallyB: Pair work- What were you doing at the following times yesterday? Be as specific as possible (where, with whom and so on).
Example:
A:午後二時ごろ何をしていますか。
B:友たちと部屋で勉強しています。
1)A:午前六時。。。B:私の部屋で寝ています。
A: gozenrokuji... B: watashi no heya de nete imasu.
2)A:午前八時。。。B:朝ご飯を食べています。
a: gozenhachiji... B: asagohan o tabete imasu.
3)A:午前十時。。。B:私の家で勉強しています。
A: gozenjuuji... B: watashi no ie de benkyouushite imasu.
4)A:午後十二時半。。。B:昼ご飯を食べています。
A: gogojuunijihan... B: hirugohan o tabete imasu.
5)A:午後六じ。。。B:友たちとテニスをしています。
A: gogorokuji... B: tomodachi to tenisu wo shite imasu.
6)A:午後八時。。。B:加速トプ部にベールを飲んています。
A: gogohachiji... B: kazoku to pubu ni beeru wo nonde imasu.
7)A:午後十一時。。。B:ベッドで休んでいます。
A: gogojuuichiji... B: beddo de yasunde imasu.
Notice that 高校の先生 is a noun, whereas います is attached to the -te form of verbs in other examples. The sentence constructions are different.3)お母さんは高校の先生です。
3 caught me out by not having a います ending. I cheated and listened to the mp3 audio answers.
Q:お母さんは何をしていますか。
okaasan wa koukou no sensei desu.
Why did you choose が? What do you think the function of が is?4)お姉さんは銀行が働いています。
Tenjin dictionary gave me the verb for work and I might not have guessed ga.
oneesan wa ginkou ga hataraite imasu.
お姉さんは銀行が働いています。
SD,
I, too, am puzzled by your use of が in the sentence お姉さんは銀行が働いています. Are you trying to use が to modify 行が? Are you trying to construct a dependent clause with 働 as the relative pronoun? Let's use the "as for" technique to translate your sentence:
"As for my sister, the bank has steady employment."
Or should we just assume the obvious, that you meant to say, ""銀行で "at a bank". meaning "銀行で働いています" "working at a bank".
Notice that the question is "What were you doing at the following times yesterday?" and the given example in Genki is actually
A:午後二時ごろ何をしていましたか。
B:友たちと部屋で勉強していました。.
Try again. (Incidentally, in #6, "kazoku" is 家族(かぞく), not 加速(かそく), and "beer" is ビール, not ベール. What do you mean by "pubu", by the way?)
Understandable. Anyway, で is indeed correct.I had a case of crossed wires and で became が. I hope this sort of mistake will not happen again.
"Pub" exists as a loanword in Japanese, but it is パブ, not プブ. Loanwords are (more often than not, though I won't say "always") based on pronunciation. プブ sounds like the Japanese equivalent of "poob", which isn't a word.Pub is an abbreviation of public house. I apologise for using an obscure loanword. A public house consists of a bar and seating area, serves food and drink and can double as a hotel.
If you mean "resting (i.e. taking a break)" (but not yet sleeping), this is fine. If you mean "sleeping", 寝ていました is preferred.ベッドで休んでいました。
Both Xで働く and Xに勤める are fine. The fact that these two (similar in terms of English glosses) verbs take different particles is honestly something that isn't worth obsessing over too much, and probably just worth memorizing. If you need some sort of logic to help rationalize it to yourself, you can think of it as 働く referring to all the daily actions you perform as part of a job (hence で, marking location of an action, attaching to the company), where are 勤める refers to being a position of employment.銀行で働いています。
Should this be お姉さんは銀行に勤めています。?
See the above explanation re: different particle use between 働く/勤める and クラス/住む. Thinking of it as "serving towards" is a bit unnatural and not particularly accurate. Again, the difference is more on whether it's focusing on the actions/work you perform there or your "existence" as a member of the company.Is your Father currently working for a Japanese company?
I would have expected で not に. Is the meaning 'serving toward a Japanese company'?
Actually, 会社で働く is correct, as jt_san already explained.Apparently, 会社に働く is the correct form.
You can also check loanwords in dictionaries, instead of transliterating foreign words by yourself, which quite often doesn't make sense as you can see so far.Pub is an abbreviation of public house. I apologise for using an obscure loanword.
Not wrong, but お客さんの家 is more appropriate.3)Q:午前十時ごろ何をしていましたか。
A:顧客の家で働いてました。
/こきゃく(customer) の いえ で はたらいていました。(work)
typos: お姉さん is おねえさん, not おんえさん.4)お姉さんは銀行で働いています。
Should this be お姉さんは銀行に勤めています。?
おんえさん は ぎんこう で はたらいていますか。
5)お姉さんは結婚しています。
おんえさん は けっこんして います。