Does this make sense/how could it be improved

Asougi · 2 Oct 2019

Hi again.

東方が大好きで、この曲にハマっているからリクエストした。
日本語を勉強する。そのため、このチャネルはとても役に立つと思う。
9月に日本へ行く！東方グッズを買うのを本当に楽しみにしている。

Are there any gramatical errors, or how could I make it sound less awkward?

Thanks.

Toritoribe · 2 Oct 2019

I recommend using polite forms.
から and そのため sounds stiff. Instead, I would use ので and (勉強する)のに, respectively.

Asougi · 3 Oct 2019

Toritoribe said:
I recommend using polite forms.
から and そのため sounds stiff. Instead, I would use ので and (勉強する)のに, respectively.

Thank you

I was wondering what form I should use, but then I noticed many comments were using plain form so I followed suit. Though If in doubt I suppose it would have been better for me to use polite anyhow.

Are there any specific rules or anything good to know regarding what forms to use when it comes to places such as comments on Youtube and simillar sites?

Thanks again

Majestic · 3 Oct 2019

No rules, just, as Toritoribe-san says, a recommendation. Start with the polite, and progress to casual if the atmosphere allows it, and if you are comfortable with it. Because depending on the situation, casual can come across as rude. This is true for real life in Japan. Polite should be the default, and then one can progress to casual as the situation allows. This tends to be the opposite of how we think in the US, where casual is the default and formal is seen as somehow something only exercised on rare occasions.

Of course, in the raw and unrefined world of Twitter and YouTube, you find all sorts of crude and impolite comments. Anonymity allows everyone to be as rude as they wish to be, so no need to be overly sensitive about how you post there. But as a general rule, "polite" is the default setting in Japan.

Toritoribe · 3 Oct 2019

Asougi said:
I was wondering what form I should use, but then I noticed many comments were using plain form so I followed suit. Though If in doubt I suppose it would have been better for me to use polite anyhow.

Are there any specific rules or anything good to know regarding what forms to use when it comes to places such as comments on Youtube and simillar sites?

In casual conversations, sentence ending particles are almost always necessary to make it sound natural, and I think it's one of the hardest things to grasp for non-native learners to use those particles appropriately.
Also, your wordings are more suitable for polite forms
cf.
9月に日本に行くから、グッズ買うのがすっごい楽しみ。

Asougi · 4 Oct 2019

Majestic said:
No rules, just, as Toritoribe-san says, a recommendation. Start with the polite, and progress to casual if the atmosphere allows it, and if you are comfortable with it. Because depending on the situation, casual can come across as rude. This is true for real life in Japan. Polite should be the default, and then one can progress to casual as the situation allows. This tends to be the opposite of how we think in the US, where casual is the default and formal is seen as somehow something only exercised on rare occasions.

Of course, in the raw and unrefined world of Twitter and YouTube, you find all sorts of crude and impolite comments. Anonymity allows everyone to be as rude as they wish to be, so no need to be overly sensitive about how you post there. But as a general rule, "polite" is the default setting in Japan.

I see, thank you. That puts things into perspective.

Toritoribe said:
In casual conversations, sentence ending particles are almost always necessary to make it sound natural, and I think it's one of the hardest things to grasp for non-native learners to use those particles appropriately.

Interesting. I did purposely avoid using any here since like you said it's not easy for me to know where to put them at this stage, but that is good to keep in mind.

Toritoribe said:
Also, your wordings are more suitable for polite forms

Sorry, if you don't mind, could you elaborate on what you mean by this?

Toritoribe said:
9月に日本に行くから、グッズ買うのがすっごい楽しみ。

So から is the connective I should have used, I think I understand that.

I see that へ is now に. I read that they were interchangable when going somewhere. I originally wrote に but didn't want to repeat に and wondered what would happen if へ was there instead. This page seems to suggest a small nuance, where each makes the reader think of different reasons for going to the destination. Did you change it based on this kind of nuance?

I also see that there is no を for 買う. I assume that it is casually dropped, and that the rest is a more natural/expressive way of saying it (が places emphasis on the fact I'm looking forward to buying goods?)

Sorry for all the questions, and thanks again.

Toritoribe · 4 Oct 2019

Asougi said:
Sorry, if you don't mind, could you elaborate on what you mean by this?

Words like そのため, このチャネル, とても, 役に立つ or 本当に are proper, therefore could sound stiff in casual conversations. These are more likely written-words-like.

Asougi said:
I see that へ is now に. I read that they were interchangable when going somewhere. I originally wrote に but didn't want to repeat に and wondered what would happen if へ was there instead. This page seems to suggest a small nuance, where each makes the reader think of different reasons for going to the destination. Did you change it based on this kind of nuance?

Right, it's roughly destination vs. direction.

Asougi said:
I also see that there is no を for 買う. I assume that it is casually dropped, and that the rest is a more natural/expressive way of saying it (が places emphasis on the fact I'm looking forward to buying goods?)

Yes for the omission of を.

楽しみ is the shortened version of 楽しみだ/です, so が is used to indicate the object. On the other hand, your original one 楽しみにしている takes を and が as the object and subject marker, respectively. Thus, 買うのを楽しみ。and 買うのが楽しみにしている。 are both ungrammatical.

Asougi · 4 Oct 2019

Toritoribe said:
Words like そのため, このチャネル, とても, 役に立つ or 本当に are proper, therefore could sound stiff in casual conversations. These are more likely written-words-like.

Right, it's roughly destination vs. direction.

Yes for the omission of を.

I see, thank you.

Toritoribe said:
楽しみ is the shortened version of 楽しみだ/です, so が is used to indicate the object. On the other hand, your original one 楽しみにしている takes を and が as the object and subject marker, respectively. Thus, 買うのを楽しみ。and 買うのが楽しみにしている。 are both ungrammatical.

Yeah. Sorry if I didn't make it clear, but essentially I just wondered what the difference between saying を買うのを本当に楽しみにしている and 買うのがすっごい楽しみ was. I see you mentioned 本当に could sound stiff, so I think that's why you replaced it with すっごい. Are you saying no one is likely to say を買うのを楽しみにしている anywhere because it's unnatural, as I didn't use a sentence ending particle, and didn't omit を (if I could do that for both), and so it's an odd casual sentence?

Is there a natural way to write it casually using を and the 楽しみにする verb?

Would を買うのを本当に楽しみにしています be fine then in the right settings?

Hopefully my last questions, you've been really helpful so far, thanks

Toritoribe · 5 Oct 2019

楽しみにしている is mostly used to convey directly to the listener(s)/reader(s) that the speaker/writer is looking forward to something, so there's no problem to say, for instance, 9月に日本に行くから、会うの楽しみにしてる or 今度日本に行くから、お土産楽しみにしててね to your Japanese friend. In your case, it's closer to monologue, so just 楽しみ is more natural.

Asougi said:
Would を買うのを本当に楽しみにしています be fine then in the right settings?

Yes.

Asougi · 6 Oct 2019

Toritoribe said:
楽しみにしている is mostly used to convey directly to the listener(s)/reader(s) that the speaker/writer is looking forward to something, so there's no problem to say, for instance, 9月に日本に行くから、会うの楽しみにしてる or 今度日本に行くから、お土産楽しみにしててね to your Japanese friend. In your case, it's closer to monologue, so just 楽しみ is more natural.

Yes.

Okay, I see. Thank you for such detailed information, it has been really helpful.

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