Different forms of auxiliary verbs

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dairwolf

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• 6 Apr 2010

• #1

Hey there! Does it actually make sense to use the passive, potential or causative form of auxiliary verbs, for example

考えてみられたら - if it would be thought about

食べてしまわせる - let somebody eat it completely

読みおわれなかったら - if it couldn´t be read to the end

I could think of other examples, but i think you can get the point from those.

 

Toritoribe

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• 6 Apr 2010

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Basically, yes. Auxiliary verbs or compound verbs can take those forms. However, some forms don't make sense semantically. For instance, やりもらい動詞（「くれる」「やる」「あげる」「もら う」） can't have passive and causative.

In your examples, 考えてみられたら sounds to me like an honorific; "how about you think about it?" Simply 考えられる would be used for the case.

 

Elizabeth

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Auxiliaries indicate tense, mood and voice like independent verbs...but I think it is complicated with re: to the aspect (whether the action is completed or ongoing).

 

Toritoribe

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• 7 Apr 2010

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Elizabeth said:

Auxiliaries indicate tense, mood and voice like independent verbs...but I think it is complicated with re: to the aspect (whether the action is completed or ongoing).

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Right. As for ～ている, 食べられている/結婚されている(passive), 食べさせている/結婚させている(causative) is correct. The potential of いる (食べていられる/結婚していられる) can be used, though.