Curious translations

GoldCoinLover · 26 Jan 2006

A member mac, on these forums, who is basically fluent in japanese, and is a naitve japanese speaker, translated this. I find it interesting because I would NEVER expect some of these translations. It just goes to show you there are a billion different way to say the samet hing in japanese! I ask him why it's that way but he cannot explain it.

This is a story about PETA vegan and why not to eat meat or dairy projects.

I'm very interested in this sentence.
Chick: 僕は、Nuggetじゃないの！

Boku is used by males, so I guess the chick is a male. However, yananino is knew to me. Perhaps the "no" is used for emphasis. But "nai" is probably negative. What this means is supposedly, "I'm not a nugget!"

You'd think it would be: Boku wa, nugget arimasen!
I don't know if he's living or inanimate. I mean, he's a talking chicken nugget. I'd suppose he's alive since he talks, in that case:
Boku wa, nugget imasen!

Here's the whole translation:
PETAのHalloweenのE-Cardを翻訳しました。とても可愛い。(^-^ Silly Stringは、日本語で何て言うのか分かりません。Googleで画像を探してみて下さい。どんなものか分かると思います。

Sam: いい考えがあるぞ。
Jimmy: それは何だい？
Sam: 卵を割りに行かないかい？冷蔵庫に卵がいっぱいあるんだ。
Jimmy: そういつはいいね。取りに行こう。
Chick: ちょっと待ってよ。Halloweenの目的を忘れていないかい？
Sam: どっから来たんだ？
Jimmy: どういう事だい？
Chick: Halloweenは、友達との集会、家族との助け合い、伝統の学習、隣人の重要性、昨日や昨年の善霊を受け入れる事でしょ。Halloweenは、振り返る事も翼を広げる事も出来ない、汚い倉庫にある、とても小さなかごに雌鳥達を閉じ込めている産業を支援する事じゃないよ。お願いだから、卵を割りに行かないで。変わりにToilet Paperを使って。
Sam: 君の言う通りだよ。ごめんね。
Chick: それと、Silly Stringだよ。
Jimmy: 悪かったね、Nuggetくん。
Chick: 僕は、Nuggetじゃないの！
janaino

私は、Halloweenについて良く知りませんが、卵を投げつけて暴れる人もいるのでしょうかね。(^^; だとしたら、とても残酷です。現在の卵のための工場式農場は、とても恐ろしい物です。よく平気で、ああいう事ができ、隠しているなと思います。早くあんなものを廃止してほしい。(><) あれだけの事をして、苦労して産んだものが、１個１０円ほどなんて、人間ていうのは本当に残虐です。肉食動物を超えています。残虐な産業を支援しないで、みんなで鶏さん達を救いましょう。

Sam: Hey, Jimmy. I have an idea.
Jimmy: What's up, Sam?
Sam: Let's go egging. My mom has a carton of eggs in the fridge.
Jimmy: Gee, that's sounds great, Sam. Let's go get them.
Chick: Not so fast, boys. Are you forgetting what halloween is all about?
Sam: Where'd you come from?
Jimmy: What do you mean?
Chick: Halloween is about the gathering with friends and the joint efforts of families, the observation of traditions, the meaning of neighbors and the embracing of all good spirits of yesterday and yesteryear. Halloween isn't about supporting an industry that looks hens up in tiny cages in dirty warehouses where they don't have enough room to turn around or spread one wing. For heaven sakes. Don't go egging. Use toilet paper instead.
Sam: You are right, we are sorry.
Chick: And, here's some silly string.
Jimmy: Thanks nugget.
Chick: I'm not a nugget!

MeAndroo · 26 Jan 2006

You're dealing with some colloquial expressions than you should be. This is stuff for later.

GoldCoinLover · 26 Jan 2006

MeAndroo said:
You're dealing with some colloquial expressions than you should be. This is stuff for later.

I'm not worried about it. Was just interested.

What exactly are colloquial expressions?

kumo · 26 Jan 2006

GoldCoinLover said:
Boku is used by males

Not necessarily.

However, yananino is knew to me.

Please learn hiragana before attempting to translate or learn anything. Where did you get "yananino" anyway? I'ts "ja nai no".

You'd think it would be: Boku wa, nugget arimasen!

If I had studied Japanese for only a week, yes, maybe I'd think that.

I don't know if he's living or inanimate. I mean, he's a talking chicken nugget. I'd suppose he's alive since he talks, in that case:
Boku wa, nugget imasen!

Don't try to figure out grammar you haven't studied by yourself; use your book, I'm sure it covers it quite well.
GoldCoinLover, how can you find these translations curious if you have no idea what the original text says? It really puzzles me...

moofs · 26 Jan 2006

kumo said:
However, yananino is knew to me.

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Please learn hiragana before attempting to translate or learn anything. Where did you get "yananino" anyway? I'ts "ja nai no".

It's probably just a typo since he mentioned 'nai' in his next sentence.

じゃない(janai) = not
Examples:
本じゃない = not a book.
僕じゃない = not me.
かれじゃない = not him.

ぼくは、nuggetじゃないの！ = I'm not a nugget!
( ぼくは = I am. nuggetじゃない = not a nugget. の = !! )
And you already know that の emphasizes it.
So, again, ぼくは、nuggetじゃないの! = I'm not a nugget!

PS. You will also come across ではない(de wa nai) which has the exact same purpose as じゃない(janai), ではない is more polite.

Those are also informal versions. ではありません(de wa arimasen) and じゃありません(ja arimasen) are the formal versions of the word.

kumo · 26 Jan 2006

moofs said:
It's probably just a typo since he mentioned 'nai' in his next sentence.

No, it's probably because he doesn't know how the "hiragana+little hiragana" combination works.

GoldCoinLover · 26 Jan 2006

kumo said:
Not necessarily.
Please learn hiragana before attempting to translate or learn anything. Where did you get "yananino" anyway? I'ts "ja nai no".
If I had studied Japanese for only a week, yes, maybe I'd think that.
Don't try to figure out grammar you haven't studied by yourself; use your book, I'm sure it covers it quite well.
GoldCoinLover, how can you find these translations curious if you have no idea what the original text says? It really puzzles me...

Sorry kumo. I hate to say this, and it will probably get me banned, but I really can't stand people like you. I'd use a stronger word but I don't want to sound too rude.
Do you realize how hard I've been studying? Do you realize how much I've actually learned and retained in the past week? Literally 10 hours + each day.
I make mistakes. And I makea lot of typos. I KNOW IT WAS YA NAI NO. Ok? I even got the no as empahsis right, and knew "nai" was the informal style of negativity. You know, I can't please you.
Fine, maybe it's not 'nugget arimasen' perhaps its 'nugget dewa arimasen', you GOT MY POINT.

I shouldn't really fear posting.

And my book, it doesn't cover it well. It only covers conversational japanese, and both of them are the same. I guess I could look through each sentence, and find it that way, as it explains the particles that way (far into the book) but I just wish it had a section dedicated to particles, etc, and grammar.

kumo · 26 Jan 2006

GCL, virtually everyone on this forum gave you exactly the same piece of advice and you managed to ignore it every single time. No wonder people get mad. When someone tries to help you at least attempt to understand what they say, they only want you the best. Nobody is here trying to hurt your drama queen feelings.

I KNOW IT WAS YA NAI NO.

No you didn't, and you actually managed to get it wrong again.

And my book, it doesn't cover it well. It only covers conversational japanese, and both of them are the same.

You have an internet connection, there's no excuse for lack of studying material.

The7thSamurai · 26 Jan 2006

Gold,

Sooner or later people are going to get tired of responding to your questions because you don't take on people's advice. If that happens you won't have anyone to ask questions to (at least on this board). So for your own sake, hold the more advanced questions for now. If you do have a more advanced questions maybe write it in a notebook and come back to it at a later date.

GoldCoinLover · 26 Jan 2006

Bucko said:
Gold,
Sooner or later people are going to get tired of responding to your questions because you don't take on people's advice. If that happens you won't have anyone to ask questions to (at least on this board). So for your own sake, hold the more advanced questions for now. If you do have a more advanced questions maybe write it in a notebook and come back to it at a later date.

How am I not taking peoples advice?

I'm trying my best to remember what they are saying. That's really the best I can do.

GoldCoinLover · 26 Jan 2006

kumo said:
GCL, virtually everyone on this forum gave you exactly the same piece of advice and you managed to ignore it every single time. No wonder people get mad. When someone tries to help you at least attempt to understand what they say, they only want you the best. Nobody is here trying to hurt your drama queen feelings.
No you didn't, and you actually managed to get it wrong again.
You have an internet connection, there's no excuse for lack of studying material.

I study around 10 hours a day. The problem is I study too varied. Please tell me how I'm not taking peoples advice. And yes, I do study those timex sites AND the other one.

Especially the verb one.

I can see why you are frusterated for asking too advanced questions, but when you and others say "I'm not taking your advice" I don't believe that. If I make a mistake, it's because right now I'm very tired, and I'm still struggling to put sentences together.

Yes, I made th emistake "ya" instead of "ja". I think you understood my point.

Again I'm a slow learner. It takes me along time to learn. I can't help this.

WHEATTHlNS · 26 Jan 2006

The problem is I study too varied.

Which is why youre having problems mate. . . FOCUS. Do it the right way. Right now, you want to know EVERYTHING, and thats not the way to go. I was the exact same way when I started - wanted to learn just EVERYTHING, but I knew if I tried to learn that way, that what I did study - wasnt going to stick and was going to get mixed up with other stuff (like what's happening to you now). Just chill bro, get a TEXTBOOK - a cheap one online, or maybe the forum can pitch in for one (or your local library. . .learning language section should have a Japanese textbook that someone donated), and focus on that. . .trying to learn advanced stuff without learning WHY its phrased/constructed the way it is is really just going to keep putting you in this situation.

Yes, I made th emistake "ya" instead of "ja". I think you understood my point.

Can you write out the full Hiragana table GCL?

GoldCoinLover · 26 Jan 2006

WHEATTHlNS said:
Which is why youre having problems mate. . . FOCUS. Do it the right way. Right now, you want to know EVERYTHING, and thats not the way to go. I was the exact same way when I started - wanted to learn just EVERYTHING, but I knew if I tried to learn that way, that what I did study - wasnt going to stick and was going to get mixed up with other stuff (like what's happening to you now). Just chill bro, get a TEXTBOOK - a cheap one online, or maybe the forum can pitch in for one (or your local library. . .learning language section should have a Japanese textbook that someone donated), and focus on that. . .trying to learn advanced stuff without learning WHY its phrased/constructed the way it is is really just going to keep putting you in this situation.
Can you write out the full Hiragana table GCL?

Yeah I can. Why do you doubt I me when I make a typo?

By the way, thanks. I'll read some of my conversational textbooks.

Maybe the video too. I just hope in 7 months ill know enough for a basic conversation.

GoldCoinLover · 26 Jan 2006

If you mean write them out with a pen, no.

WHEATTHlNS · 26 Jan 2006

If you mean write them out with a pen, no.

Why not? Arent you practicing your writing? Learning how to WRITE a symbol is the most EFFECTIVE way of retaining it.

I'll read some of my conversational textbooks.

No, no - nein nein - conversation books will only teach you "conversation". If youre truly here to STUDY Japanese GCL, you need to STUDY it. . .whats the name of a

GoldCoinLover · 26 Jan 2006

WHEATTHlNS said:
Why not? Arent you practicing your writing? Learning how to WRITE a symbol is the most EFFECTIVE way of retaining it.
No, no - nein nein - conversation books will only teach you "conversation". If youre truly here to STUDY Japanese GCL, you need to STUDY it. . .whats the name of a

It has conversationl, and it also explains what the words mean it.

Sorry, I don't have any money (I'm broke), and these 2 books should help somewhat with conversation, although not really. I got them for free from emmbers on this forum. I guess I can try websites, eh? Got ag ood one? I heard timex was a good one, but I don't have a link to it (my favorites are full)

Should I use the "I am yan san" video then? Maybe 1 lesson every other day?

Mike Cash · 26 Jan 2006

How's the job hunt going?

GoldCoinLover · 27 Jan 2006

mikecash said:
How's the job hunt going?

Yeah, I'll ignore everyone and do my own path. Of course, this is what YOU think. I don't ignore everyone. sure, sometimes I ignore the advice, by going too fast. This may make me forget more, as it's better to learn things very good and remember them than to forget them. But I do listen to people sometimes, and I'll review those "I am yan videos" and websites.
If I never make it, I'l go take instructional classes. And yes, I will become fluent. I'm determined, and Im' not giving up. We all make mistakes. I make alot of them; and you may think I don't learn from them, but I just pratice to write sentences more so I remember them better. We all learn from our mistakes, even me.
いい考えがあるぞ。
Iikangae ga aru zo.
"ii" can mean good ("yoi") or as a request.
Iru and aru mean "to be (in a certain place)" or "to exist." Generally speaking, iru is used for people and animals, and aru for everything else.
Zo is the a male particle for emphasis.
4) Asking permission: the ~ te form + mo ii desu ka.
It's very informal.
Obviously, the chicken is male. From the noun "watashi" to "zo". It's very maleish.
Not sure why "aru" is used, I guess because he's a chicken nugget. LOL
Anyway.
It's a mistake to think like I do, and think you know everything. I don't. And I have alot to learn. But form what I learn, it doesn't seem that hard to speak it.
Writing, yeah thats hard. I will get it though.
見てください。
DUnno what is "Just", I remembe rusing it but forgot.
It is also used to describe a habitual action and a condition.
(3) Listing successive actions
It is used to connect two or more verbs. The ~ te form is used after all but the last sentence in a sequence.

RockLee · 27 Jan 2006

GoldCoinLover said:
Yeah, I'll ignore everyone and do my own path. Of course, this is what YOU think. I don't ignore everyone. sure, sometimes I ignore the advice, by going too fast. This may make me forget more, as it's better to learn things very good and remember them than to forget them. But I do listen to people sometimes, and I'll review those "I am yan videos" and websites.
If I never make it, I'l go take instructional classes. And yes, I will become fluent. I'm determined, and Im' not giving up. We all make mistakes. I make alot of them; and you may think I don't learn from them, but I just pratice to write sentences more so I remember them better. We all learn from our mistakes, even me.
窶堋｢窶堋｢ﾂ考窶堋ｦ窶堋ｪ窶堋?窶堙ｩ窶堋ｼﾂ。
Iikangae ga aru zo.
"ii" can mean good ("yoi") or as a reques.t
Iru and aru mean "to be (in a certain place)" or "to exist." Generally speaking, iru is used for people and animals, and aru for everything else.
Zo is the a male particle for empahsis.
4) Asking permission: the ~ te form + mo ii desu ka.
It's very informal.
Obviously, the chicken is male. From the noun "watashi" to "zo". It's very maleish.
Not sure why "aru" is used, I guess because he's a chicken nugget. LOL
Anyway.
It's a mistake to think like I do, and think you know everything. I don't. And I have alot to learn. But form what I learn, it doesn't seem that hard to speak it.
Writing, yeah thats hard. I will get it though.
ﾅ陳ｩ窶堙??堋ｭ窶堋ｾ窶堋ｳ窶堋｢ﾂ。
DUnno what is "Just", I remembe rusing it but forgot.
It is also used to describe a habitual action and a condition.
(3) Listing successive actions
It is used to connect two or more verbs. The ~ te form is used after all but the last sentence in a sequence.

Don't take on things that are over your head,it'll only confuse the hell out of you! Take it from me, in my first year I only learned hiragana/katakana.This year it's only 80 kanji, yet you want to type kanji everywhere without knowing it's appropriate ☝ Stick with the hiragana/katakana for a while.Also, what's the use to make a complicated sentence if you don't even know the easy ones Good luck on studying ! But remember, take your time and don't rush !

the te-form is a *****...stay away from that for a while ;-)

GoldCoinLover · 27 Jan 2006

RockLee said:
Don't take on things that are over your head,it'll only confuse the hell out of you! Take it from me, in my first year I only learned hiragana/katakana.This year it's only 80 kanji, yet you want to type kanji everywhere without knowing it's appropriate ☝ Stick with the hiragana/katakana for a while.Also, what's the use to make a complicated sentence if you don't even know the easy ones Good luck on studying ! But remember, take your time and don't rush !
the te-form is a *****...stay away from that for a while ;-)

Thank you. I took you a whole year to do the kana? Well, in about a year, I'm going to visit japan. I want to know all I can.

Why is the te form a *****?

It can mean to request things, or present progressive with iru, or imasu right?

What is a complicated sentence?
Well, this one doesn't make any sense, but I guess this one is one:
どうして皆が私は男だと思っていますかしら？

These I won't even bother with.

Kare wa ganko na hito desu. (He's a stubborn person.)
彼（かれ）は頑固（がんこ）な人（ひと）です。
He's a stubborn person.
Oh man, that describes me perfectly.

God I love adjectives.

RockLee · 27 Jan 2006

GoldCoinLover said:
Thank you. I took you a whole year to do the kana? Well, in about a year, I'm going to visist japan. I want to know all I can.
Why is the te form a *****?
It can mean to request things, or present progressive with iru, or imasu right?

The class is kinda slow, so I study on my own too
The te-form is sometimes easily mistaken.It's used to connect sentences with multiple verbs.

For instance : Watashi wa hon o yonde(te-form is "nde"), tenisu o shimashita.
Else you should say : Watashi wa hon o yomimashita.Watashi mo tenisu o shimashita.PLUS, you have to use the correct order of the actions you used, so if you read first, you should start with yomimasu.You end with the -shita form.In this way you can combine sentences with eachother without making separate sentences BUT..to know where you get a dubble t or just 1 t or nde is a ***** sometimes

Mike Cash · 27 Jan 2006

GoldCoinLover said:
Yeah, I'll ignore everyone and do my own path. Of course, this is what YOU think.

Hey, I know I say a lot of stuff that sets you off.....but how did a friendly inquiry about your job hunt bring about that great big tirade?

Nicky · 27 Jan 2006

An easy way to understand "colloquial" is to just remember that it is pretty much just another word for "informal".

GoldCoinLover said:
What is a complicated sentence?
Well, this one doesn't make any sense, but I guess this one is one:
どうして皆が私は男だと思っていますかしら？

I haven't been studying for long, but to me that says:
"I wonder why everyone thinks I am a man."

Someone please correct me if I am wrong. (I probably am)

I think what RockLee meant by "te-from's *****" is that learning how to conjugate to te-form from plain form can be hard to memorize at first. I remember when my aunt first went over it with me and my reaction was "What the hell is this?". There are rules for conjugating that you don't really need to be bothered with at first if you're still struggling with the basics(I'm not implying that you are).

Edit: I rule for not noticing that Rocklee had already responded.

Learning too much in too little time is the best way to forget it all. Move at a pace that is comfortable. As for writing:

Yahoo

On the menu on the left side, scroll down to "2. Standard hiragana". It'll even show you the stroke order, but you'll need java on your computer to see it.

がんばって！

GoldCoinLover · 28 Jan 2006

Nicky said:
An easy way to understand "colloquial" is to just remember that it is pretty much just another word for "informal".
I haven't been studying for long, but to me that says:
"I wonder why everyone thinks I am a man."
Someone please correct me if I am wrong. (I probably am)
I think what RockLee meant by "te-from's *****" is that learning how to conjugate to te-form from plain form can be hard to memorize at first. I remember when my aunt first went over it with me and my reaction was "What the hell is this?". There are rules for conjugating that you don't really need to be bothered with at first if you're still struggling with the basics(I'm not implying that you are).
Edit: I rule for not noticing that Rocklee had already responded.
Learning too much in too little time is the best way to forget it all. Move at a pace that is comfortable. As for writing:
Yahoo | Mail, Weather, Search, Politics, News, Finance, Sports & Videos
On the menu on the left side, scroll down to "2. Standard hiragana". It'll even show you the stroke order, but you'll need java on your computer to see it.
窶堋ｪ窶堙ｱ窶堙寂?堙≫?堙?！

Thanks. I guess I must be forgetting something. the ~te/de form was neve ra problem for me.

Watashi wa yonde imasu.
I am reading.

Just replace the u with "nde" for these types. Right? Or asobu, or drop the u and add te?

MeAndroo · 28 Jan 2006

GoldCoinLover said:
Thanks. I guess I must be forgetting something. the ~te/de form was neve ra problem for me.
Watashi wa yonde imasu.
I am reading.
Just replace the u with "nde" for these types. Right? Or asobu, or drop the u and add te?

Just so you know...

yondeimasu is not the -te form of yomu. Yonde is the -te form of yomu. For asobu, the -te form is asonde.

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