GoldCoinLover said:Oh, okay, so mi and mu is the same. (Didn't find mu..)
Nani wo shite irasshaimasu ka?
What is he doing?
This is interesting. It uses "irasshaimasu." I've no idea why this is used. "irrasshaimasu" means "Welcome" or "Please come again." (something like that) whe you enter a store. Hmm.
What I was trying to say was you CAN MAKE IT POLITE by adding "imasu", "Iru" etc.
KrazyKat said:leave the game alone.
leave that sentence well alone.
GoldCoinLover said:asobu wa shite imasen deshita.
I didn't play.
Perhaps I got the particle wrong.
MeAndroo said:Bucko's method to remember doesn't use the plain form verb ending, i.e. the ku in kaku. It uses the stem ending, i.e. kaku => kaki.
-te form irrashaimasu is a different level of Japanese. I wouldn't worry about it right now. It's a beast of a different color that challenges people further along than you.
Adding imasu/iru to a -te form verb does not make it polite, it changes the meaning.
GoldCoinLover said:Oh okay..
How would I conjugate suru, to do?
Isn't the polite form shimasu?
And how would I use it in the shite te form?
Thank you for your patience.
GoldCoinLover said:Um, why?
You know, you can't learn if you don't try.
Shite imasen deshita.
Is this wrong because there is no noun?
Is this better?
asobu wa shite imasen deshita.
I didn't play.
Perhaps I got the particle wrong.
Because a)they seem to be speaking with a strange accent. I can't understand yau. maybe someone can confirm this, I'd like to know. I was thinking doko yau might mean koko wa doko desu ka?GoldCoinLover said:Um, why?
You know, you can't learn if you don't try.
oh okayKrazyKat said:Because a)they seem to be speaking with a strange accent. I can't understand yau. maybe someone can confirm this, I'd like to know. I was thinking doko yau might mean koko wa doko desu ka?
b) you didn't know most of the words and knew none of the grammar in that sentence. I can gaurantee others will only be harder. You will learn nothing from the game.
GoldCoinLover said:oh okay
Here's one: Imitate her dance moves.
Anoko no ugoki wo oboeru.
This makes sense.
KrazyKat said:Literally: Will remember that child's movements.
KrazyKat said:Literally: Will remember that child's movements.
More likely 6 years (or never if you continue studying this way).GoldCoinLover said:Thank you KrazyKat. How long do you think it will be able before I'm able to read a japanese webpage? (So called "real" japanese) like nintendo's website.
If I keep studying hard. I Heard 6 months?
kumo said:(or never if you continue studying this way).
What Kumo's saying is that you aren't developing a well-rounded and thorough knowledge of the concepts. You're going through them very quickly without any real practice, and shooting questions at random topics when you should focus on the basics first. Like people have said, slow down, read every post (and link), and practice what you've learned.GoldCoinLover said:You aren't very nice.
I've learned quite a bit but I will slow down.
It has nothing to do with being nice or not, it's about being realistic.GoldCoinLover said:You aren't very nice.
I've learned quite a bit but I will slow down.
MeAndroo said:What Kumo's saying is that you aren't developing a well-rounded and thorough knowledge of the concepts. You're going through them very quickly without any real practice, and shooting questions at random topics when you should focus on the basics first. Like people have said, slow down, read every post (and link), and practice what you've learned.
It's like learning to play basketball, but only learning how to shoot and what traveling is. Without the rest of the knowledge, your game will be neither complete nor sufficient.
GoldCoinLover said:What grammar do I need to know?
I did read every post and link.
GoldCoinLover said:What grammar do I need to know?
I did read every post and link.
I would say you should start with English reading comprehension, then with the lesson 1 of your book (or CD, whatever).GoldCoinLover said:What grammar do I need to know?
I did read every post and link.
MeAndroo said:If that's true, you shouldn't be struggling with the -te form.
kumo said:I would say you should start with English reading comprehension, then with the lesson 1 of your book (or CD, whatever).
GoldCoinLover said:Who says I am?
asobu
asonda
asonde
Asobu -> asonde. Te/de form.
I always did this one myself as well:
narau -> naratta
Tada.
Note: It is actually naratte for some reason.
Informal Past
(~ ta Form) naratta
Yeah, to make it from ta to te just drop the a and add an 'e' I guess.
Narau yori narero.
Who says I am?
GoldCoinLover said:Free Japanese Lessons - Japanese Verb Conjugation (Godan) - Learn to speak the Japanese language online for free!
Please see that link.
THe problem I'm having here is knowing how to conjugate a verb, and to what. Do I just have to memorize it, or do they have rules?
For example:
会 う あ う au (to meet)
会 わ あ わ awa Base 1
会 い あ い ai Base 2
会 う あ う au Base 3
会 え あ え ae Base 4
会 お う あ お う aou Base 5
会 っ て あ っ て atte Base "te"
会 っ た あ っ た atta Base "ta"
That's great and all, but they wanted me to conjugate it starting with au. Great, I can drop the u to awa, I know how to do that. But it doesn't say to drop the "u" and add "I' for base 2, also for base 4, "ae" it doesn't end in "ba". It said the base 4's end in ba.
This is really confusing.
I don't have all of the "u" verbs for the te forms conjugated. "shite" still confuses me for some reason. It means "did", or maybe "to do". It's related to suru.WHEATTHlNS said:Couple of things -
If some of you arent interested in helping GCL, or are getting frustrated at doing so - simply walk away. Much better than creating an acrimonious environment where you're browbeating him because of his impatience.
GCL - you ARE going too fast, and (in my opinion) are trying to learn verb conjugations OUT of a logical order, and are only confusing yourself because of it, for example trying to learn "-ta" "-te" conjugations together, when really learning Te-forms of verbs first makes learning the Ta-form and subsequent conjugates/sentence expressions based on Ta-form easier.
Right now you're trying to learn "Dirty Japanese". Learning Japanese in a PROPER way, only helps to reinforce what you learn next. If your goal is just to be able to quickly play Japanese games - its NOT going to happen in no 6 months mate. I remember going to Japan and listeining to this 5 year old, and I could almost understand everything he said, but it pretty much beat home the fact that in order to be proficient in this language - youre going to have to resolve yourself to studying for a long time. And not just studying, but studying intelligently and thoroughly.
NO instructor with half a brain would EVER think to learn all verb conjugates at once, so why are you. My recommended order (after you get yanno basic writing and reading down) for your level:
Present-Tense, Affirmative Polite Form (-masu).
Present-Tense, Negative Polite Form (-masen)
Past-Tense, Affirmative Polite Form (-mashita).
Past-Tense, Negative Polite Form (-masen deshita)
Te-Form of Verbs
Present-Tense, Affirmative Informal Form (Dictionary Form of verb)
Present-Tense, Negative Informal Form (-nai)
Past-Tense, Affirmative Informal Form (-ta, same as -te, just drop E add A)
Past-Tense, Negative Informal FOrm (-nakatta)
You can worry about potentials, transitives, honorifics (Oy for when this young man gets there and comes here) much, much MUCH later.
So you know - without thinking, the Te-forms of all "U verbs"? What about ADJECTIVES - all this talking about verbs, are you comfortable conjugating ADJECTIVES?