Closer To spring or nearer to spring

[letslearn]

Hi Guys I'm trying to say in English

Next year closer to spring I will travel to Japan.

What is the verb/Adjective for closer? Can I use sekkin? as in...


例年は日本ではるせっきんしてきたらりょこうにいきます

 

[Toritoribe]

近くに (the -ku form of an adjective 近い + a particle に) is used.

Next year is 来年[らいねん], not 例年[れいねん].

The destination is indicated by に.

 

[letslearn]

I take it the sentence will have two ni particles?

来年は日本に春近くにたきたらりょこうにいきます

 

[Toritoribe]

There is no problem with two にs, as same as two "in"s in "stay in a hotel in a city" in English.

春近くに is an adverbial by itself. たきたら is unnecessary (or rather, makes no sense at all.)

来年は is not a mistake, but は unnecessarily emphasizes 来年 as the contrastive marker, just like "I didn't go to Japan this year, but, next year I will go". Just 来年 is more common.

Also, the order of the words 日本に旅行[りょこう]に行[い]きます is more common.

 

[raguna]

While in English it makes sense to split up "next year" and "spring" in Japanese it sound kind of weird. Much more common is next year's spring "来年の春" or even "来年の張る近くに"

I'm not sure why you find it necessary to specify "close to spring" instead of just saying spring but I would say "来年の春くらい" which means around spring next year.

I'm not sure what you mean by たきたら unless you meant と来たら But adding that after "chikaku ni" is redundant.

 

[letslearn]

I thought I put きたら It was to say "when I go" is that ok for the tara form?
Maybe it should be


来年日本に春近くにりょこうに行きたら

When I go to Japan it will be close to spring.

 

[Toritoribe]

There is no problem with 来年春 without の.

江氏が兼務する国家主席ポストも、来年春の全国人民代表大会（全人代＝国会）で胡氏が引き継ぐのは確実だ。
琉球新報 朝刊 2002/11/3

本格協議の開始が来年春ごろとなる可能性が強まっている。
中国新聞 朝刊 2005/12/27

京都大に来年春環境研究の実習拠点「フィールド科学教育研究センター」と、
京都新聞 朝刊 2002/12/23

来年春には新尾道大橋、多々羅大橋及び来島海峡大橋（尾道・今治ルート）の完成により、
運輸白書 平成10年度

次の文化祭を来年春に計画する同会役員の
市報とおかまち「だんだん」 2008年22号

本年１０月末ごろの竣工、来年春の供用開始をめざしてまいりますので、
区民だより よどがわ 2008年01号


来春 is also possible, but this is more likely written language.

I thought I put きたら It was to say "when I go" is that ok for the tara form?
Maybe it should be


来年日本に春近くにりょこうに行きたら

It sould be 行ったら.

 

[raguna]

There is no problem with 来年春 without の.

There might not be anything wrong with it, but adding no is more common in casual usage... Besides, my main point was that saying 来年日本春に行く" sounds weird.

 

[Toritoribe]

There might not be anything wrong with it, but adding no is far more common in casual usage

I believe 来年春 is also common in (casual) speech.
e.g.
来年春日本に行くんだけど、お土産要る？

来年の春日本に行くんだけど is also OK, of course.

... Besides, my main point was that saying 来年日本春に行く" sounds weird.

来年日本に春に行く is acceptable, but yes, the order 日本に旅行に行きます is more common, As I pointed out in my previus post.

 

[raguna]

Far more common was an overstatement, sorry. Maybe I have a tendency to always add no because that's the way I was taught to say it?

 

[raguna]

I thought I put きたら It was to say "when I go" is that ok for the tara form?
Maybe it should be


来年日本に春近くにりょこうに行きたら

When I go to Japan it will be close to spring.

来年日本に行ったら春近くだろう。or something, but I would avoid phrasing it that way, I'm not even sure if it makes sense.

来年春近くに日本に旅行に行きます is how I would phrase it.

 

[undrentide]

I thought I put きたら It was to say "when I go" is that ok for the tara form?
Maybe it should be
来年日本に春近くにりょこうに行きたら
When I go to Japan it will be close to spring.

If/when is not きたら but たら.
きたら（＝来たら）means 'if I come' or 'when I come'.
Correct conjugation for 行く is not 行きたら but 行ったら (if/when I go).

来年日本に春近くにりょこうに行ったら is a phrase, not a sentence.
(Next year if I go to Japan near spring, is the reteral translation.)

When I go to Japan 日本に行ったら / 日本に行くのは
it will be close to spring もうすぐ春だろう。春に近い頃だろう。
(The above do not sound really natural, I put something sound closest to each of the phrases.)

 

[letslearn]

Thanks Heaps for your help guys. I think I better rephrase my statement as is doesn't really sound natural.
Because I'm a skier I'll be in japan in the new year. This time I will be going near the end of the ski season. So really its near the end of winter.

Can you use まつ with season e.g week end is 今週まつ seasons end 季節まつ

End of ski season
スウキイの季節まつ

 

[undrentide]

末（まつ） does mean "end" (of a certain period of time) but can be used only with specific words.
e.g.
週末（しゅうまつ）、月末（げつまつ）、期末（きまつ）、年末（ねんまつ）
今週末（こんしゅうまつ） means THIS weekend, by the way.
You cannot use it for 季節. You should use 〜の終わり（おわり）instead.
Ski is written as スキー not スウキイ
Ski season can be expressed as スキーの季節、 though シーズン (came from English word "season") is more commonly used for sports.

at the end of the ski season スキーの季節の終わりに、スキーシーズンの終わりに