ookubo said:Glenn,
your Chinese is subarashii ,to be honest.
Glenn said:
Really, it's not all that good. This was pretty basic and I'm still embarassed for my lack of knowledge.
I did learn something new today, though. Apparetnly when you use 窶板ｹ with stative verbs (or adjectives) you don't use ﾅ徒. For example, 窶ｰﾃ､ﾅ徒窶氾 is "I am tired," but you wouldn't say 窶ｰﾃ､ﾅ徒窶氾昶?板ｹ for "I have become tired"; instead you would say 窶ｰﾃ､窶氾昶?板ｹ (窶敕ｦ窶堙ｪ窶堙??堋ｫ窶堋ｽﾂ）. I guess that's only for the "sentence-final 窶板ｹ," though, and perhaps if you're using the aspect marker 窶板ｹ it's a little different. Anyway, that's just one more small piece of the puzzle that became clear to me today. Anyway, thanks for the compiment! 窶慊ｹ窶ｰﾃｪﾅｽﾃ毒ｽﾃ (was that even close?)!
Glenn said:ﾂ坂?? is the usual way of saying it; 窶愿ｺ is more formal.
Yes you can; it's just that the former is much more common.ookubo said:Well,if you use "窶ｰﾃ､2ﾅ椎ｽ20窶愿ｺ...",that is OK,but "窶ｰﾃ､2ﾅ椎ｽ20ﾂ坂??..." is better.
HOWEVER:
"When will you be returning to China?"---->"你邃｢{ﾂ坂??窶ｰﾃｱ窶吮??ﾂ坂??",in this sentence you cannot say "你邃｢{窶愿ｺ窶ｰﾃｱ窶吮??ﾂ坂??"
Supervin said:Like I said, '窶愿ｺ' is just less used in general, particularly in speech, but is perfectly acceptable. So, "ﾂ債｡窶弖ﾂ青･2ﾅ椎ｽ26窶愿ｺﾂ青ｯﾅ?ﾃｺ窶愿ｺ" is standard - there is nothing odd about it in any way. In fact, when it comes to the written language, '窶愿ｺ' is more preferred as it is more literary and formal.
The two variants are very similar to how the word 'Sunday' is used: it could be either 'ﾂ青ｯﾅ?ﾃｺ窶弖' or 'ﾂ青ｯﾅ?ﾃｺ窶愿ｺ'. The latter is also used more often in writing.
Look, I'm a native speaker of English, have a mother tongue in Cantonese and have reached native speaker in Mandarin after a number of years. I also have friends in China who grew up there. So I do know what I'm talking about.ookubo said:Sorry,but I think "窶氾ｧﾂ拜窶弖" is more often used in speech other than "ﾂ青ｯﾅ?ﾃｺ窶弖"
Anyway,I assumed you able to speak MADARIN
I think 窶氾ｧﾂ拜窶弖 is used most frequently by Mandarin speakers of Taiwan. In countries like Malaysia and Singapore the Mandarin speakers there usually use ﾂ青ｯﾅ?ﾃｺ窶弖 the most. I am not sure about the mainland.Supervin said:Look, I'm a native speaker of English, have a mother tongue in Cantonese and have reached native speaker in Mandarin after a number of years. I also have friends in China who grew up there. So I do know what I'm talking about.
On the other hand, you don't know what you're talking about.
Mandarin speakers use 'ﾂ青ｯﾅ?ﾃｺ窶弖' the most. They also use 'ﾂ青ｯﾅ?ﾃｺ窶愿ｺ', '窶氾ｧﾂ拜窶弖' and '窶氾ｧﾂ拜窶愿ｺ'.
Cantonese speakers use only 'ﾂ青ｯﾅ?ﾃｺ窶愿ｺ' and '窶氾ｧﾂ拜窶愿ｺ'.
If you carry on with this attitude, I won't waste my time clarifying things for your sake.
Yeah, it's true that Taiwanese Mandarin speakers use '窶氾ｧﾂ拜窶弖' quite a bit, but I also hear a lot of 'ﾂ青ｯﾅ?ﾃｺ窶弖' there as well like in China, Malaysia and Singapore.Minty said:I think 窶氾ｧﾂ拜窶弖 is used most frequently by Mandarin speakers of Taiwan.
In countries like Malaysia and Singapore the Mandarin speakers there usually use ﾂ青ｯﾅ?ﾃｺ窶弖 the most. I am not sure about the mainland.
I'm afraid I don't, specifically, and Mona Lisa seems to be the only place I've heard of in Hong Kong.Minty said:Oh by the way you mentioned that Mona Lisa bridal is expensive due to advertising do you know any value for money wedding photography shop in HK?