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I'll give it a shot, but we should wait for a native Chinese speaker to check this.

"Hello, Benedukt!
I'm very happy to have received you letter! I will take this back with me to China. (???) (Something about not thinking your Chinese writing is good, but I'm not sure what he's saying there) Germany is a beautiful and friendly country, and I really like it (here). I come from Guangdong (Canton), China. Guangdong is a large city (region?) in southern China, and it's very close to Hong Kong. I have to go back to China on Feb. 20th, but I hope we can stay in touch. This is my e-mail: (blurred out).
Let's see your studies advance! (???)"

Alright, so there are some spots I'm really not sure about in there, but I think that's the basic idea of the letter. I'd like to know where I went wrong here, so to our native Chinese speakers 窶堙ヲ窶堙ォ窶堋オ窶堋ュ窶堋ィナ?ティ窶堋「窶堋オ窶堙懌?堋キ (sorry, I don't know how I would say that in Chinese 😊)!
 

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thank u a lot. now i have at least an idea what he says ... *happy*
 

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Hello, Benedukt!
I'm very happy to have received you letter and I will take this back with me to China.I am very surprised that you could write Chinese so well.
Germany is a beautiful and friendly country, and I really like here. I come from Guangdong (Canton), China. Guangdong is a large city in southern China, and it's very close to Hong Kong.
I have to go back to China on Feb. 20th, but I hope we can stay in touch. This is my e-mail: (blurred out).
Hope you will make progress in your studies.
 

ookubo

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Glenn,
your Chinese is subarashii ,to be honest.
 

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i see i have to learn a lot... i've learned 2 lessons yet...
 

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ookubo said:
Glenn,
your Chinese is subarashii ,to be honest.
😊😌
Really, it's not all that good. This was pretty basic and I'm still embarassed for my lack of knowledge.
I did learn something new today, though. Apparetnly when you use 窶板ケ with stative verbs (or adjectives) you don't use ナ徒. For example, 窶ーテ、ナ徒窶氾 is "I am tired," but you wouldn't say 窶ーテ、ナ徒窶氾昶?板ケ for "I have become tired"; instead you would say 窶ーテ、窶氾昶?板ケ (窶敕ヲ窶堙ェ窶堙??堋ォ窶堋スツ). I guess that's only for the "sentence-final 窶板ケ," though, and perhaps if you're using the aspect marker 窶板ケ it's a little different. Anyway, that's just one more small piece of the puzzle that became clear to me today. Anyway, thanks for the compliment! 窶慊ケ窶ーテェナステ毒ステ (was that even close?)!
 
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ookubo

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Glenn said:
😊😌
Really, it's not all that good. This was pretty basic and I'm still embarassed for my lack of knowledge.
I did learn something new today, though. Apparetnly when you use 窶板ケ with stative verbs (or adjectives) you don't use ナ徒. For example, 窶ーテ、ナ徒窶氾 is "I am tired," but you wouldn't say 窶ーテ、ナ徒窶氾昶?板ケ for "I have become tired"; instead you would say 窶ーテ、窶氾昶?板ケ (窶敕ヲ窶堙ェ窶堙??堋ォ窶堋スツ). I guess that's only for the "sentence-final 窶板ケ," though, and perhaps if you're using the aspect marker 窶板ケ it's a little different. Anyway, that's just one more small piece of the puzzle that became clear to me today. Anyway, thanks for the compiment! 窶慊ケ窶ーテェナステ毒ステ (was that even close?)!

Hmmm...Now I think that I am too weak in grammar.......

In my opinion,the meaning of 窶ーテ、窶氾昶?板ケ is I am tired,and 窶ーテ、ナ徒窶氾 is to show that you are VERY tired.We always use 窶ーテ、窶コテ?#32463;ナ徒窶氾昶?板ケ to express that I am already too tired.....Anyway,hope you can understand.I found my English is poor....GOD
 

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Haha, well, that just goes to show how little I know about Mandarin. I wouldn't have thought to use 窶コテ淌」S.

Just to be sure, though, the original sentence was ナ陳サツ催敖静寂?禿サ窶ケM窶板ケ (I think). In English it was "gas has become expensive." So maybe by ignoring the presence of ナ陳サツ催 I hurt myself, but again my knowledge is pretty weak. Anyway, the example that I gave was my guess as to how to say that in Mandarin, and it wasn't the example that was given me earlier by someone who knows better.

Aside from that, I thought that 窶ーテ、ナ徒窶氾 would just mean "I'm tired," because the ナ徒 is necessary to make the sentence sound complete and doesn't necessarily mean "very" in this instance. To further clarify, would you say that 窶ーテ、窶コテ淌」Sナ徒窶氾昶?板ケ is like 窶堙?窶堋、窶敕ヲ窶堙ェ窶堙??堙ゥ?
 

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it's like watching dragons the size of buildings being modest about their destructive power to each other.

"nono, really. you could easily tear down that building, while my tearing powers are still only at a first graders level!"
 

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Thanks for the comparison with a dragon, but really, as the thread will show, I know next to nothing about Manarin. Trust me, I'm not just being polite. There's at least one person who will definitely agree with me here.
 

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Most of you have the bulk of the letter right in a rough translation, however this is the complete translation.

Chinese to English translation:

"Hi Benedukt!

I'm very happy to receive your letter! I will bring it back to China. I didn't think that you can write Chinese that well, which amazed me!

Germany is a very beautiful and developed country. I really like it there. I come from Guangzhou, China. Guangzhou is a large city in Southern China, which is near Hong Kong.

I will be returning to China on February 20th. Hope we can always keep in touch.

This is my E-mail: ...

Wish you progress in your studies!"



Chinese original:

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Hope this clears things up.

EDIT: Uploaded an image instead as the Chinese characters weren't displaying properly.
 
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Whoops... Guangzhou, not Guangdong (廣東). Heh, that's quite a difference. Now the "city" part makes more sense.
 

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qoute: 我2月20号。。。

why does he use "号“ and not "日”??

ps: i've just learnd to lessons of chinese.
 

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号 is the usual way of saying it; 日 is more formal.
 

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Glenn said:
ツ坂?? is the usual way of saying it; 窶愿コ is more formal.

Well,if you use "窶ーテ、2ナ椎ス20窶愿コ...",that is OK,but "窶ーテ、2ナ椎ス20ツ坂??..." is better.

HOWEVER:
"When will you be returning to China?"---->"你邃「{ツ坂??窶ーテア窶吮??ツ坂??",in this sentence you cannot say "你邃「{窶愿コ窶ーテア窶吮??ツ坂??"
 

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ookubo said:
Well,if you use "窶ーテ、2ナ椎ス20窶愿コ...",that is OK,but "窶ーテ、2ナ椎ス20ツ坂??..." is better.
HOWEVER:
"When will you be returning to China?"---->"你邃「{ツ坂??窶ーテア窶吮??ツ坂??",in this sentence you cannot say "你邃「{窶愿コ窶ーテア窶吮??ツ坂??"
Yes you can; it's just that the former is much more common.
 

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たとえば,
"今天是2月26号星期日"--->ただしい
"今天是2月26日星期日"--->ちょっと変
 

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Like I said, '日' is just less used in general, particularly in speech, but is perfectly acceptable. So, "今天是2月26日星期日" is standard - there is nothing odd about it in any way. In fact, when it comes to the written language, '日' is more preferred as it is more literary and formal.

The two variants are very similar to how the word 'Sunday' is used: it could be either '星期天' or '星期日'. The latter is also used more often in writing.
 

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Supervin said:
Like I said, '窶愿コ' is just less used in general, particularly in speech, but is perfectly acceptable. So, "ツ債。窶弖ツ青・2ナ椎ス26窶愿コツ青ッナ?テコ窶愿コ" is standard - there is nothing odd about it in any way. In fact, when it comes to the written language, '窶愿コ' is more preferred as it is more literary and formal.
The two variants are very similar to how the word 'Sunday' is used: it could be either 'ツ青ッナ?テコ窶弖' or 'ツ青ッナ?テコ窶愿コ'. The latter is also used more often in writing.

Sorry,but I think "窶氾ァツ拜窶弖" is more often used in speech other than "ツ青ッナ?テコ窶弖"

Anyway,I assumed you able to speak MADARIN
 

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ookubo said:
Sorry,but I think "窶氾ァツ拜窶弖" is more often used in speech other than "ツ青ッナ?テコ窶弖"
Anyway,I assumed you able to speak MADARIN
Look, I'm a native speaker of English, have a mother tongue in Cantonese and have reached native speaker in Mandarin after a number of years. I also have friends in China who grew up there. So I do know what I'm talking about.

On the other hand, you don't know what you're talking about.

Mandarin speakers use 'ツ青ッナ?テコ窶弖' the most. They also use 'ツ青ッナ?テコ窶愿コ', '窶氾ァツ拜窶弖' and '窶氾ァツ拜窶愿コ'.

Cantonese speakers use only 'ツ青ッナ?テコ窶愿コ' and '窶氾ァツ拜窶愿コ'.

If you carry on with this attitude, I won't waste my time clarifying things for your sake.
 
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Supervin said:
Look, I'm a native speaker of English, have a mother tongue in Cantonese and have reached native speaker in Mandarin after a number of years. I also have friends in China who grew up there. So I do know what I'm talking about.
On the other hand, you don't know what you're talking about.
Mandarin speakers use 'ツ青ッナ?テコ窶弖' the most. They also use 'ツ青ッナ?テコ窶愿コ', '窶氾ァツ拜窶弖' and '窶氾ァツ拜窶愿コ'.
Cantonese speakers use only 'ツ青ッナ?テコ窶愿コ' and '窶氾ァツ拜窶愿コ'.
If you carry on with this attitude, I won't waste my time clarifying things for your sake.
I think 窶氾ァツ拜窶弖 is used most frequently by Mandarin speakers of Taiwan. In countries like Malaysia and Singapore the Mandarin speakers there usually use ツ青ッナ?テコ窶弖 the most. I am not sure about the mainland.
Oh by the way you mentioned that Mona Lisa bridal is expensive due to advertising do you know any value for money wedding photography shop in HK?
 

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Minty said:
I think 窶氾ァツ拜窶弖 is used most frequently by Mandarin speakers of Taiwan.

In countries like Malaysia and Singapore the Mandarin speakers there usually use ツ青ッナ?テコ窶弖 the most. I am not sure about the mainland.
Yeah, it's true that Taiwanese Mandarin speakers use '窶氾ァツ拜窶弖' quite a bit, but I also hear a lot of 'ツ青ッナ?テコ窶弖' there as well like in China, Malaysia and Singapore.

Minty said:
Oh by the way you mentioned that Mona Lisa bridal is expensive due to advertising do you know any value for money wedding photography shop in HK?
I'm afraid I don't, specifically, and Mona Lisa seems to be the only place I've heard of in Hong Kong. :p

But, there is a whole area - about two streets full - where many wedding shops for photography and fashion are based, so you can shop around and compare before deciding. The place is located in between two districts (i.e. it stretches over both): Tsim Sha Tsui and Jordan.

If you want to obtain specific info beforehand, you could either phone or email the Hong Kong Tourism Board about it:

http://www.discoverhongkong.com/eng/misc/mi_contact_us.jhtml

Otherwise, you could also get info when you arrive at the Hong Kong International Airport, from the Tourism Information Desk.

Hope this helps.
 
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He has very nice Chinese handwriting! 👍 Anyways, yeah, the others got to translate it before i could! :( I would have! lol
 
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