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Memento

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Hello. (oh my god, these are too cute XD)

I'm part of a one-person scanlation group, and my grasp on the Japanese language is haphazard at best. I'm self-taught, and basically learn through a few books, one or two online references, and by attempting manga and doujinshi translations.

Anyway, I think I've done okay so far, but a few things have been throwing me off, and I'd just like to double-check and make sure I haven't butchered the language too badly. I appreciate whatever you can do to help me. ^^;

First:
ๅฟ˜ใ‚ŒใฆใŸใใ†ใ„ใˆใฐใ•
ใ“ใ„ใคไฝ•ใงใ‹ๆ—ญใฃใฆๅๅ‰ใชใ‚“ใ ใ‚ˆใชใƒผ

I know ใใ†ใ„ใˆใฐ means "Now that you mention it" or "That reminds me". ๅฟ˜ใ‚ŒใฆใŸ means "forgot", right? "(I) forgot, (but) that reminds me"?

The second line throws me off because I'm not quite sure of ไฝ•ใงใ‹ and ใชใ‚“ใ ใ‚ˆใช, and I've never quite got the hang of the function of -ใฃใฆ.

I'm pretty sure ๆ—ญ is the name of a currently unnamed character.

To doublecheck:

ๅฝผใฎไบบ้–“ๆ€งใ‚’ๅฆๅฎšใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใช
็™บ่จ€ใฏๆƒ…ๆ“ๆ•™่‚ฒไธŠ้ฉๅˆ‡ใงใฏใชใ„ใจ
...ใ€Žใใ‚Œใ€ ใงใฏใชใใฆๅ…ˆ็”Ÿ
่ตคใ‚“ๅŠใงใ™

I have translated as:

Denying his humanity with that type of speech doesn't seem to an appropriate sentiment to be teaching. He's not a "that", sensei. He's a baby.

็ขบใ‹ใซๅƒ•ใฏ
ๅคซๅฉฆใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ
ๆ˜ผๅคœใ‚’ๅ•ใ‚ใšใ‚ใ•ใฒใจไนณ็นฐใ‚Šใ‚ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใŒๅญใฏใงใใชใ„ใฎใ‚ˆ

I have translated (roughly) as:

(I'm certain) Asahi and I have a relationship much like a married couple, regardless of the fact that we're (our personalities are) basically day and night, but having a child isn't possible.

ใ€Žใฏใชใ—ใพใ€
ใ‚‚ใ†ไฝ•ใงใ‚‚ใ„ใ„
ใใฎๅญใฉใ“ใ‹ใซใ‚ใšใ‘ใฆใใฆใใ‚Œ
(ๆŽˆๆฅญใซใชใ‚‰ใ‚“)

I have translated as:

Hanashima
I don't care where, but please put the child somewhere else.
(If it's in class)

ๆฅใ‚‹ใชใฃใฆ่จ€ใฃใŸใ‚‰ใ‚ใ•ใฒๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ
ๆฅใชใใชใฃใฆ
...ใณใฃใใ‚Šใ—ใŸ

I have translated as:

When I said don't come back, you (asahi) really didn't come back.
...(I was) surprised.

I know it's a LOT to ask for at once, but I'd be terribly grateful if anyone could help me check/translate any part of that mess.

Thanks so much! ^^
 
Memento said:
I'd just like to double-check and make sure I haven't butchered the language too badly. I appreciate whatever you can do to help me. ^^;
I was going to look at this yesterday - but I wasn't in the mood after being half-poisoned by a curry.

ๅฟ˜ใ‚ŒใฆใŸใใ†ใ„ใˆใฐใ•
ใ“ใ„ใคไฝ•ใงใ‹ๆ—ญใฃใฆๅๅ‰ใชใ‚“ใ ใ‚ˆใชใƒผ

I know ใใ†ใ„ใˆใฐ means "Now that you mention it" or "That reminds me". ๅฟ˜ใ‚ŒใฆใŸ means "forgot", right? "(I) forgot, (but) that reminds me"?

Not sure either ...
"I'd forgotten but now you say that, well. There's this guy named ๆ—ญ-or-summit-or-whatever."
or
"I'd forgotten but now you say that, well. This guy's named ๆ—ญ-or-summit-or-whatever."
(I think the first one).

ไฝ•ใงใ‹
not very familiar to me either.
ใชใ‚“ใ ใ‚ˆใช
ใช ใฎ ใงใ™ ใ‚ˆ ใชใ€‚
First ใช is from ใ  - it's only there because ๅๅ‰ใฎใ ... would be 'belonging to name' and because in ๅๅ‰ใ ใฎใ  (and such like) ใ 's turn to ใช.
ใฎใงใ™ / ใ‚“ใงใ™ is covered in a recent thread in this very forum.
ใ‚ˆ - 'emphasis particle / giving information new to hearer'
ใช - another emphasis particle. Don't ask me the nuance - I forget.

and I've never quite got the hang of the function of -ใฃใฆ.

Here it's a straight forward equivalent to ใจใ„ใ†. There are lots and lots of ใฃใฆ pages out there in Google land - try a search for ใฃใฆ, ใจใ„ใ†ใฎใฏ, japanese and grammar.

Denying his humanity with that type of speech doesn't seem to an appropriate sentiment to be teaching. He's not a "that", sensei. He's a baby.
Look OK to me.

็ขบใ‹ใซๅƒ•ใฏ
ๅคซๅฉฆใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ
ๆ˜ผๅคœใ‚’ๅ•ใ‚ใšใ‚ใ•ใฒใจไนณ็นฐใ‚Šใ‚ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใŒๅญใฏใงใใชใ„ใฎใ‚ˆ

(I'm certain) Asahi and I have a relationship much like a married couple, regardless of the fact that we're (our personalities are) basically day and night, but having a child isn't possible.

Not so good. "Certainly Asahi and I flirt/make-out with each other like a married couple day and night but having a child just isn't possible."

ใ€Žใฏใชใ—ใพใ€
ใ‚‚ใ†ไฝ•ใงใ‚‚ใ„ใ„
ใใฎๅญใฉใ“ใ‹ใซใ‚ใšใ‘ใฆใใฆใใ‚Œ
(ๆŽˆๆฅญใซใชใ‚‰ใ‚“)

I don't care where, but please put the child somewhere else.
(If it's in class)


I just don't care any more.
Get that child taken care of somewhere else (it won't do to have it in class)

When I said don't come back, you (asahi) really didn't come back.
...(I was) surprised.


Maybe shocked rather than surprised but basically OK
 
What is a "that", sensei ? I don't think I understand the word order, here. Why isn't it ...ใ€Žใใ‚Œใ€ ๅ…ˆ็”Ÿใงใฏใชใใฆ่ตคใ‚“ๅŠใงใ™ ๏ผŸ
 
Elizabeth said:
What is a "that", sensei ? I don't think I understand the word order, here. Why isn't it ...ใ€Žใใ‚Œใ€ ๅ…ˆ็”Ÿใงใฏใชใใฆ่ตคใ‚“ๅŠใงใ™ ๏ผŸ
Because that would be
"That" isn't a sensei it's a baby.
 
PaulTB said:
Because that would be
"That" isn't a sensei it's a baby.
...ใ€Žใใ‚Œใ€ใงใฏใชใใฆๅ…ˆ็”Ÿ่ตคใ‚“ๅŠใงใ™ just looks more like "It isn't that, (as an explanation) instead the sensei is a baby. Although maybe the original poster as more of an idea what a 'that' sensei would be.
 
Not in the context given. It's not a 'that' sensei.

ๅฝผใฎไบบ้–“ๆ€งใ‚’ๅฆๅฎšใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใช็™บ่จ€ใฏๆƒ…ๆ“ๆ•™่‚ฒไธŠ้ฉๅˆ‡ใงใฏใชใ„ใจ...ใ€Žใใ‚Œใ€ ใงใฏใชใใฆๅ…ˆ็”Ÿ่ตคใ‚“ๅŠใงใ™ใ€‚

It's clearer with a couple of commas added.

ใ€Žใใ‚Œใ€ ใงใฏใชใใฆใ€ๅ…ˆ็”Ÿใ€่ตคใ‚“ๅŠใงใ™ใ€‚
 
ๅฟ˜ใ‚ŒใฆใŸใใ†ใ„ใˆใฐใ•
ใ“ใ„ใคไฝ•ใงใ‹ๆ—ญใฃใฆๅๅ‰ใชใ‚“ใ ใ‚ˆใชใƒผ
ใ€Œไฝ•ใงใ‹ใ€is equivalent to ใ€Œใชใœใ‹(somehow)ใ€, i guess.
still, i don't really get the meaning of this sentence, though....

ๅฟ˜ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใŸใ‘ใ‚Œใฉ
ใชใœใ‹ใ“ใฎไบบใฏๆ—ญใจใ„ใ†ๅๅ‰ใชใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญใ€‚
it's easier to see what it means if you transform spoken language
into written language...
 
Goodness, I didn't expect this much help. Thank you so much, everyone! You all did such a great job even though I didn't really explain the context for a few of those phrases. PaulTB had it right about the commas, I was lazy and just didn't type them in when I was transcribing from the manga. ^^;

Again, thank you so much everyone for teaching me a few new things and for making my job that much easier. ^^ And for those who are interested, the manga I was/am working with is titled "ๅฅฝใใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใ„ใ‘ใฉๆ„›ใ—ใฆใ‚‹", a shounen-ai manga by Mashiro Minamino.

Thank you!
 
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