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Abe calls for practical English teaching in education system reform

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What are your thoughts? What should change in the education system to make English education "more suited for practical use"?

I think it's kind of hard to just focus on the education while it's the average person in Japan doesn't have a lot of opportunities to actually speak English. I think it's great that companies like Rakuten have decided to use English for their meetings, and companies that provide English lessons to their employees.


 
I don't know much about the topic, but I've heard from an overwhelming number of sources that the time spent on educating people in English is essentially wasted since it usually fails to teach people how to use it in a real-life situation. Is that true?

I'd love to hear about some more focus on English!
 
English study here is focused on test-taking and not communication. I've wanted to do pronunciation work in classes and been told "It's not on the exam, so it's not important." I've met progressive teachers too, but the older generation has had no practical aspirations.
 

That really is a shame. I saw a video once where high school students (probably in some elective class) took turns speaking in broken English, asking for schools to start teaching them how to SPEAK it rather than to teach them obscure details about grammar and other things which aren't of any benefit to them.

I'm assuming this is one of the bigger reasons why I've read so much about interesting run-ins with foreigners, and why it's so interesting to meet a native English-speaker.
 
In order to really make English education more practical for daily use, there has to be an acknowledgement/definition of what that daily use is. Most will be by business people, followed by travel-related sectors (local transportation, tours), and then those interested in going abroad (sightseeing or study).

What Abe doesn't scratch is that students don't like the current system in HS and want to learn to talk, even if it's with a cool foreign friend or potential one. So, the current system has to be abolished whereby J teachers do the yakudoku grammar-translation system and learn themselves how to teach oral communication skills. That eliminates the entrance exams to colleges, too, or at least puts a serious weight on an oral component (seriously lacking now). TOEFL scores won't cut it, and they should NOT be used to determine whether a student graduates HS or college. That's just stupid and unnecessary.

Don't hire JET ALTs who have no teaching credential or experience. Same with dispatch ALTs. But fix the already broken JET program by providing the JTEs with some support / training, too.

This is a HUGE undertaking, and Abe is just looking to appear positive. Concrete details are vital, or this "proposal" goes nowhere fast.
 
My particular take, and input, though while somewhat in line with what Glenski has highlighted above, will now be forced upon all readers... hee, hee, hee... get ready:

First of all, upon seeing the title of this thread, and getting the gist of the likely potential fact that the Education Ministry is actually thinking about trying to do something that looks like it's trying to really do something--in other words, set up at least a paper cut-out figure of an interest in trying to improve the education system--here, English. O.K., I may not have all that much respect for what them big shots do up there, but I am glad that at least it's coming to the table, and getting some press. Maybe that allows a window in which I can exercise a little more here at my uni, be a little louder, and not simple have to nod at meetings as though to say (wow... I wish I could challenge that proposal... not because I cannot technically, or with data... but just because it wouldn't carry across anyways.)

But then, I saw TOEFL. What?! That's not so 'practical English' an exam focus, but more academic. At least shift for TOEIC... at least. (I tend to think that test focus is also a little blown out of proportion on its beneficial qualities, but hey, I cannot come up with a better model myself, and it does focus a little more on practical concerns of daily living, than on essays by Hume, Hobbes, or Dickinson. (If I have spelled that latter correctly.)

Moon-lighting at a local 'yobiko' which takes only Jr high school third year students from a single, specific jr high school, over the past two years, has only gone to better support my notion (from having done AET some 22 years back) that the 'entry level' (as I call jr high school English) has not learned so much itself. We do indeed need to make some changes which, while still getting basics that will of course strengthen academic routed English programs, will also bolster practical routes too. If anything, it will offer the young a chance to broaden out their social horizons in some way or another.

I am very much with Glenski on that last sentence of his. If nothing is done to go out, and hit the streets (so to speak), and research out just what needs to be done (within practical limits), and can be done (within such limits), and a progressive plan outlined and put into executive action, it's all going to just go the way of PR apple polishing. I most certainly hope that will not be the outcome of this also important thing which the Japanese Education system over all must do.

This silly Center Test nonsense must take a few courses in 'reality check up taking.' University Entrance exams must be kicked down to nothing more than mere a preliminary screening process. (Not just a matter of allowing a student to be a student at a certain university.) Graduating from a university with a name, is the point--not merely being a student at such a university. (Which leads to why one recent book has come out 'Why Do Japanese University Students Study the Least of All University Students in the World;' my loose translation of the title.) If a student fails a year, they fail a year. They have, I think, 8 years to graduate with the basic four year diploma, If they can't, they can't. They should have entered a university with lessor academic demanding status.

All in all, I hope something happens to make improvements !!
 
They have, I think, 8 years to graduate with the basic four year diploma, If they can't, they can't.
I had a student in his tenth or eleventh year. No, not a grad student either.

They should have entered a university with lessor academic demanding status.
Schools these days let in kids with essentially NO academic status. It's called suisen, or recommended. Huge percentages of some schools are suisen students.
 
Interesting. I wonder, perhaps I have a misunderstanding, and that as long as a student is, actually enrolled and attending, they can go on for any number of years, and that 8 years is the limit of allowing former credit to stand during a period of not going to school? (at the university level)

At the jr college, and university level, I am aware of some 'suisen' admittance; do you think it's really that large a factor? At my particular establishment, though our standard is on the lower end, we don't have that many at all--maybe about 5%.
 
What I have heard about this is that the English language course is quite formal that does not actually helpful for the locals, Any language learning program should be more concerned with the regular communication in one's daily life rather then just tests and speech. THere should be more practical way of teaching than that.
 

Learning should based upon the real life experience rather than theoretical.

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