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Thunderthief said:
Since your learning english you might want to learn l33t speak as well, this forum is full of old people so they probably wouldn't bring this stuff up.

rock on
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Old? Define old. Remember, your time is coming too, young man!

I personally don't think l33t speak is useful unless one intends to converse a lot on the internet.
 
it might be good to learn how to read "l33t" speak, but it is quite useless to learn, unless you prefer to look like おたく
 
Lol Otaku generally has a different meaning in english than it does japanese.
In japanese Otaku means, geek nerd, someone who stays doors all the time to watch anime or read manga or something in that range and generally has no life.

Most english speakers interprete it as being someone who just really likes anime/manga.

Alot of words originated from Japan have distorted meanings, just like many English words do in Japanese. Sort of like how "Mansion" in Japanese means a small apartment, and in English it means a huge house for rich people.

Btw if you didn't want me to read that you should have wrote it in Kanji not Hiragana, because my Kanji is like first grade.
 
>Mikawa Ossan and nice gaijin-san
Why thunderthief-san started talking about leet speak is that I PM'ed him and asked what Josh's previous title meant. When I was reading the thread "Why do so many foreigners marry Japanese women?" yesterday, I found Mike Cash-san saying Josh should be banned if one of the admins figures out what his title says. It said "I F Japanese girls NDB 4$" and I could tell it was "I **** Japnaese girls blah blah blah", but couldn't really figure out what the latter part of the sentence meant. I thought of posting the question of it here in this thread but I was afraid it would be too uncomfortable to talk about it in public, cuz I , at least, knew it's something very offensive.)

At that moment Josh himself was logged in, so at first I PM'ed him and asked what it meant and depending on how he would reply me, I was going to scold him. But without noticing my PM and he went right offline. Anyway, it was high time for me to leave for work, so I made a quick look over the list of the currently online memebers and found thunderthief-san there. So I PM'ed him and asked the same question, but had to leave without checking his reply. I was really running out of time then. This is the story behind his post. So it's not like he talked about it with no reason, there was a reason.

Personally, I do not like leetspeak either. It has so much in common with Japanese 2 Channeler's langauge, which is mostly used by junior high school kids or otaku (computer geeks) on internet.

However, just like nice gaijin-san pointed out, being able to read it or having a knowledge about it is a different thing from using it. I thank thunderthief-san for the information and thank you two for noticing me that I would look like a ﾆ値ﾆ鍛ﾆ暖窶堋ｨ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｭ if I used it.
Minasan, arigatou gozaimashita!


>thunderthief-san
I am almost sure nice gaijin-san already knows what you explained and he meant "otaku" with the meaning in Japanese language. That's probably why he typed the word in Japanese. Yeah, "otaku", "mansion", have different meanings when used in Japanese. Oh! and "hentai" too! It means "pervert" in Japanese, but it means just "being naughty" there in English, right?
 
osistlk said:
Lol... Cartman...
"Mwaa, I'm big boned!"
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That's a dude from South Park, right?
I remember renting a video of South Park a couple of years ago.
The first time, I rented a Japanese dubbed one by mistake and when my friend and I was watching it, my grandma popped in my room and I still can't forget how she looked like then.
She was like because at that moment someone in the video was shouting "oma*ko" "oma*ko" repeatedly. How embarrassing we all felt then!

The next time, I made sure it's the original one and watched it at home and you would not believe how disappointed I felt. I could understand almost nothing they were saying. Too many slang words..

Anyway, what does "I'm big boned." mean?
 
leonmarino said:
「骨太」って言うのかな？「太ってないやい、骨が太いだけ！」って感じで。（笑）
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あは！おもろい言い訳や～ん！
もし太っちゃったら使ってみよっと！
leonmarinoさん、ありがとうね～
 
In Japanese the word means pervert, most English speakers interprete it as a word exclusively refering to pornographic manga and pornographic anime from Japan.

For instance an english speaker might say,

"It's a hentai." They would most likely be referring to a pornographic anime.
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Also, there are a few things you may want to know, for example, there is a great deal of difference between British English and American English. Australians have their own accents but for the most part, use the British methods.

For example in the States, one would call an Elevator... well an Elevator, a British person would call an elevator a "lift". An American person might call a random stranger a "dude" while a British person would probably call a random stranger a "bloke". There are also some minor spelling variations in vocabulary.

Here is a guide that covers the very basics:

What's the Difference Between American and British English?

A discussion of the differences between standard American and British English in pronunciation, vocabulary, and grammar with examples.
www.thoughtco.com

This goes into advanced detail:
http://www.uta.fi/FAST/US1/REF/usgbdiff.html

This covers some common spelling differences: (not all of them though)

American and British English spelling differences - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org
 
いえいえ、どういたしまして・・ってかオマエさんのその写真の人だれ？まさかリアルＫｙｏｋｏ！？（リアクション遅いって？）（笑）
Ｏｆｆ－ｔｏｐｉｃでスンマセ～ン！ばいちょろぴ～ん！

ｐｓ：ってかなして５時に起きてカキコしてるんや！（笑）
 

あはは！だって私、新聞配達の仕事もしてるんだもん！夜中の２時半に起きて４時か４時半まで新聞を配ってるんだよ～。だから私のインターネットタイムはいつも早朝なの！

あ、それからこのアバターは私の最新ぷりで～す。（プリクラ写真）。全身写ってるのを載せたらみんながクラクラしちゃうと思って顔だけ切り抜いて載せたけど、全身見たい？（笑）
あは、「みたかねーよ！」だよね～。

ってか、レオンマリノさんのこの絵は、まさかレオンマリノさんの似顔絵じゃ。。。ないよね？あは！ ドラエモンマリノ、な～んちゃって！
 
Thanks so much for the input, thunderthief-san! I bookmarked all the links.
I figured out that the English we learn at school here is basically American but we are kind of familiar with "subway" and "tube", and "elevator" and "lift". And I think I saw some European person talking about American people's spelling "color" instead of "colour" in some other thread. I found them really interesting. Again, thank you so much!
 
は！？２時半に起きてって・・新聞配達の後にまた寝るの？だよねぇ・・ちやう？
「みんながクラクラしちゃう」ってあまりにもベッピンさんだから！？エライ自信やね・・こりゃ見たくなるわ！（笑）
（笑）ちやうちやう・・正真正銘のドラちゃんで～す。ＭＳＮのＭｅｓｓｅｎｇｅｒで描いたんだけど結構上手にできたと思わへん？（自分で言うなって？）（笑）

あ、いつも leonmarino ってフルネームで呼んでるけん leon でもＯＫです。名前長くて面倒くさくない？

ではではまたあばよ～だ！
 
２時半に起きてって・・新聞配達の後にまた寝るの？だよねぇ・・ちやう？
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うん、平日は午前中にちょっとお昼寝をして、午後３時から夜の１０時ごろまでもうひとつの仕事にいくんだよ。ちょっと変わった生活してるでしょ？
もう～、冗談のわからんにいちゃんだな～、レオンさんは！（笑）そんなはずないがな！

あはは、うんうん、でも、私のアンパンマンの絵には勝てんと思うよ！えへん！（笑）

うん、じゃ、今日からレオンさんってことで、これからもよろしくね！
 
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Need some encouragement.

Post#19

I'll let you know how well I put my money where my mouse is

I searched for idioms that include the words "money" and "mouse" but didn't find any.
Which does this "mouse" refer to, a small animal with a long tail or a small thing connected to your computer? And also, please help me to understand what "putting my money where my mouse is" means. よろしくお願いします。
 
Interesting!! I did some searching 'cos I didn't know what it meant either. At first I thought it was a mistake, that it should have been: I put my cheese where my mouse is. (Sounds logical, right?)

But, apparently, while it is a mistake, it should be like:
"I put my money where my mouth is"

And according to some Japanese website, it can used in the following way:

Yes, in fact, you might say I put my money where my mouth is.

Which means (according to the webpage):

そうです、実際、私は他の人にアドバイスするように自分でも実行していますよ。

So.. I'm still not exactly sure what it means, but it has to do with following advices I think..

あんましええ説明やないけん、ちょっとは分かった気がするかな？（笑）あばよー！
 
It is a mistake, it should be mouth not mouse. Since Leon's explanation is in Japanese and I don't know what he said I'll describe the phrase. The more common use of the phrase is, "Put your money where your mouth is", asking someone to backup or base a statement that they have said (and most likely isn't beleived). The phrase can be molded into many forms, like "I put my money where my mouth is" and etc. The meaning is the same how ever you may see it written, only the subject is different.

It might have been written incorrectly on purpose though, seeing as the letter S is quite far away from the letter T on a keyboard...
 
So.. For example:

A: You shouldn't invest in Chinese funds now.
B: What!? Why not? It's a booming market!!
A: No, I put my money where my mouth is; I'm investing in Japanese funds.

Can I use it like that?

I prefer the expression "I put my cheese where my mouse is" though.
 
Ah! Not "mouse" but "mouth" !!!
Thank you, thank you soooo much, leon-san and osistlk-san, I also checked my dictionaries for the idiom, It is in English "to support something that you believe in, especially by actually giving money" or "to do something rather than to just talk about it." and in Japanese 「口で言うだけでなく行動で証明する」.

Originally Posted by osistlk
It might have been written incorrectly on purpose though,
seeing as the letter S is quite far away from the letter T on a keyboard...
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Yeah, I think it's done on purpose too. When spoken and written in Japanese, both "mouth" and "mouse" are マウス (mausu). yukio_michael-san is very fluent in Japanese and he knows those words are the same in Japanese pronunciation and writtings and only different in the meanings, and he did it on purpose, like a pun.

Originally Posted by leonmarino
I prefer the expression "I put my cheese where my mouse is" though.
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Hahaha, yeah so do I!
 
It makes sense but it is awkward to say and read, it is usually used like this, "Put your money where you mouth is!", to confront someone. At least that's how I mostly hear and use it.
 
osistlk said:
it is usually used like this, "Put your money where you mouth is!", to confront someone. At least that's how I mostly hear and use it.
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OK, osistlk-san, When I get a chance, I will say it like you do, thank you so much!
 
thread title
Best Club in Tokyo 2 meet lots of foreign Gaijin men

Post #3

There were alot of hustling black guys, some big gutted American looking men, and g**ky english teachers none of which are my cup of tea though.

The word "gut" when used as a verb means something like removing the intestines or entrails, or destroying the interior of a building, doesn't it? Well, that's what my dictionary says. However, I cannot really think she meant any of them by "big gutted American looking men". I think the stereotypical American men should not be people who look sick without intestines, but rather should be like a big strong-looking guys, or maybe..... fat guys.

Hmm, then what about "guys with big belly"? I was thinking the word "big" was modifying American men, but maybe I was wrong and it is modifying the word "gutted"? If you have big guts, then your belly swells, like a beer belly.

So I am really wondering what kind of guys she meant by "big gutted American-looking men".
Guys who look sick and weak without intestines or entrails, or
Guys with big bellies whose intestines and entrails are big or maybe just simply
Guys with big bodies
 
Yeah, the "big" in "big-gutted" modifies the "gutted" part. The word "gut" in English literally refers to the intestines, not necessarily removing them. doinkies sees "big-gutted" used to describe someone with a big belly all the time.
 
Doinkes has hit the nail on the head. Big gutted in this sentence means fat or has a large belly. You could say Sumo wrestlers are big gutted.

On the word "Gutted" it is also used in the UK as a slang word for being sad or despondent or down. Sometimes will hear football players say that they were "Gutted" after losing a game, or when something that you have hopes for has let you really down
"I was gutted when England lost"
"When she left me I was gutted"

Gut also falls into other slang expressions such as,
"I'll have his guts for garters" meaning displeasure at someone
"I have worked my guts out" meaning to have worked really hard
"I've had a gutful of your cr@p" meaning to have had enough of something, usually someones views on a subject
 
Interesting!!

But it does have even more meanings right? Like, if someone has "guts", it means that that person is courageous right? "No guts no glory": if you don't have the courage to take action, you'll never reach your goal..

In the same line of thought the Japanese have a word for striking a pose after victory or achievement of something special: ガッツポーズ. Literally it is "guts-pose".

It seems like the two meanings "courage" and "belly" are far apart, but in Japanese having courage is "肝が太い", where 肝（きも） is derived from 肝臓（かんぞう）:liver, which is in the belly!! Seems like with regard to these sayings "having guts" and "肝が太い" westerners and Japanese agree on the fact that courage, an essential power in life, comes from the abdomen area.

Now I think, but I'm no scientist, that "being gutted" means that a person is deprived of his guts, being very sad.. Sounds kind of logical doesn't it? Or am I totally wrong?
 
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