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One Winged Angel · 16 Nov 2006

well you guys are looking strickly physical at japanese women wether their legs are inverted or they are pigeon.a person with these as you call them unattractive innormalities may very well be the nicest person you can ever meet.i think japanese women are beautiful inside and out.pigeon toed dosent mean a thing when it comes to personality right.

Kyoko_desu · 16 Nov 2006

Gentleman10 said:
I guess I meant pigeon toed and not inverted. I'm sorry for causing everyone so much confusion!ﾂ I really didn't mean to offend anyone, I was just saying how I don't dig the Pigeon-toed look.

No need to apologize, Gentleman10-san, please do not worry, as I've said above, I didn't take it offensive. As nice gaijin-san said, it's really "different strokes for different folks". Anyway, thanks for participating in this thread and for the clarification.

Now, One Winged Angel-san, thanks for the kind comment about us Japanese women. I just read your posts in other threads, oh you want to learn Japanese! Then you are so lucky that you've found this forum, cuz there are so many nice people who will kindly help you with your questions and everything. I myself don't really know how to explain Japanese grammar, but if there is anything I could do for you, I sure will try and help you too!

Kyoko_desu · 16 Nov 2006

Here's my new question, please help me, onegaishimasu!

thread title
Japanese Adult Videos

Post #101

No wonder the Japanese economy has shown growth (no pun intended) in the last several quarters.

Hmm, I have been staring at this sentence for like 10 minutes now....but still can't find the pun.
If anyone has found it, please explain, because I really would like to know. Yoroshiku onegai shimasu.

doinkies · 16 Nov 2006

I think that the "growth" pun may refer to, erm, erections. ^^; Considering it is an AV thread after all.

Mycernius · 16 Nov 2006

It relates back to post #100 about the adult industry and what certain adult videos do to a part of a mans anatomy. The word growth can be taken that way as a double entendre see wiki article

Kyoko_desu · 17 Nov 2006

Mycernius said:
It relates back to post #100 about the adult industry and what certain adult videos do to a part of a mans anatomy. The word growth can be taken that way as a double entendre see wiki article

Oh .... I see.
Mike-san, you are so good at expressing naughty matters politely and thanks for the wiki info!

Hey, doinkies-chan, you are such an おませな17歳ちゃん！Arigatou for the answer!
アレがああなることを、growth と表現していたとは気付かなかったぁ～～～！

One Winged Angel · 18 Nov 2006

well i dont know much about what you guys are talking about lol but umm....what are we talking about?

Kyoko_desu · 19 Nov 2006

One Winged Angel said:
well i dont know much about what you guys are talking about lol but umm....what are we talking about?

Ohhh, you are such a かまととちゃん～！
If you don't know what "kamatoto" means, check here.

leonmarino · 21 Nov 2006

From the Audioblog thread, post #188:

Mars Man said:
I've been behind the eight ball these last few weeks, but have a bit of an open patch of blue sky this week.

Now, From the context I understand that our dear fellow member has been really busy, and that he has some spare time this week.. But are these expressions standard English expressions, or is it Mars Man-poetry?

"I've been behind the eight ball" sounds like he has been busy playing, rather than working.. Or does it say that he's been trying get one particular task done all the time, and couldn't finish it off? (I know the 8-ball is the last ball to play in the game with the same name.)

I really like the "open patch of blue sky".. Sounds very relieving and soothing..

Mikawa Ossan · 21 Nov 2006

Hahaha! MarsMan is mixing metaphors!

I've never heard of "behind the 8 ball" before, but I'm certain that I have heard of "an open patch of blue sky" in the past.

Glenn · 21 Nov 2006

You haven't? I'm pretty sure it's synonymous with "between a rock and a hard place," for the most part.

nice gaijin · 21 Nov 2006

I think you're guess is right, leon, that Mars Man has been been very busy and so he hasn't been able to "sink the 8-ball" and finish off his to-do list. I have heard the 8-ball reference before, but have never had it explained to me.

Patch of blue sky is that break in the clouds of work; a chance to relax and enjoy the sun, so to speak.

Kyoko_desu · 22 Nov 2006

This is what my dictionary says:

eight ball
【1】（ビリヤードで使う）8番の黒球
【2】〈俗〉黒人｛こくじん｝
【3】とんま、どじなやつ、要領｛ようりょう｝の悪いやつ
I'm behind the eight ball.
（人と）まずいことになっているんだ。
behind the eight ball
困った［困難｛こんなん｝な・不利｛ふり｝な・まずい］状況｛じょうきょう｝で、窮地｛きゅうち｝に陥って◆【語源】ビリヤードでは8番の玉を台のポケットに落としてはいけないというルールがあり、8番ボールの後ろに自分がいて、それを打つとまずいことになるところから。
put ~ behind the eight ball
～の動きを封じる

So I thought what he meant was
大変な状況にあったんだけど、なんとか解決の糸口が見えてきた。

Originally Posted by leonmarino
I really like the "open patch of blue sky".. Sounds very relieving and soothing..

So do I. Reminds me of his welcome messages to new members.

Glenn · 22 Nov 2006

Kyoko_desu said:
【2】〈俗〉黒人｛こくじん｝
【3】とんま、どじなやつ、要領｛ようりょう｝の悪いやつ

No kidding? I didn't know that.

Kyoko_desu said:
I'm behind the eight ball.
（人と）まずいことになっているんだ。

behind the eight ball
困った［困難｛こんなん｝な・不利｛ふり｝な・まずい］状況｛じょうきょう｝で、窮地｛きゅうち｝に陥って◆【語源】ビリヤードでは8番の玉を台のポケットに落としてはいけないというルールがあり、8番ボールの後ろに自分がいて、それを打つとまずいことになるところから。

put ~ behind the eight ball
～の動きを封じる

So I thought what he meant was
大変な状況にあったんだけど、なんとか解決の糸口が見えてきた。

Yes, like I said, it's pretty much synonymous with "between a rock and a hard place."

leonmarino · 23 Nov 2006

Kyoko_desu said:
【1】（ビリヤードで使う）8番の黒球
【2】〈俗〉黒人｛こくじん｝
【3】とんま、どじなやつ、要領｛ようりょう｝の悪いやつ

びゃっはっは！（爆笑）「黒人」はないやろ！聞いた事ねぇっつーの！失礼な言葉やね・・（笑）
ってか「とんま」って事メチャ懐かしい感じするんだけど俺だけかな？（汗）

Glenn said:
Yes, like I said, it's pretty much synonymous with "between a rock and a hard place."

Ah.. That sounds.. Not so familiar either!! But I know what you mean, thanks!

Glenn · 23 Nov 2006

leonmarino said:
びゃっはっは！（爆笑）「黒人」はないやろ！聞いた事ねぇっつーの！失礼な言葉やね・・（笑）

そうですよね。間違いなく、失礼な言い方ですよ。そんなものがあったなんて、さっぱり知りませんでした。

Kyoko_desu · 23 Nov 2006

まじ？ちっ！

もう英辞朗なんて信用してやらん～。

*追加*
今、Urban Dictionary っていうサイト見てたらこういうのを見つけました。

eight ball

by 1940s

A chronically unfortunate and ineffective person.

loser, sad sack

What an eight ball this guy is.

1940年代のアメリカンスラングっていうことなので、英辞朗のいう、「とんま、どじなやつ、要領の悪いやつ」という意味でのeight ballは、今ではもう死語になってるんでしょうね。
一方、黒人という意味があると書いてあるスラング辞書は、今のところ見つかってません。もしかしたら、ボールの色が黒いからそういうふうに使われた時期/地域があったのかもしれないですね。

確かに、「とんま」なんて言葉使う人、見た事ないです。このへんではみんな、「どじ」とか「たあけ」っていう言ってるから。あ、「たあけ」は方言だから、おぼえんでもいいよ～。

Glenn · 23 Nov 2006

「覚えんで」も覚えんでもいいでしょうね。

ところで、「eight ball」という言葉はコカインの量も指せますが、どのくらいかは分かりません。

nice gaijin · 23 Nov 2006

Glenn;406547 said:
「覚えんで」も覚えんでもいいでしょうね。

ところで、「eight ball」という言葉はコカインの量も指せますが、どのくらいかは分かりません。

50-80ドルぐらいかな。１グラムだと思う。何で分かるか知らんけど。。。

Kyoko_desu · 23 Nov 2006

nice gaijin said:
550-80ドルぐらいかな。１グラムだと思う。何で分かるか知らんけど。。。

ほんとだ～、何でそんなこと知ってるのかな～？
ユーザーネームを nice gaijin から ayashii gaijin に変えなくちゃね！

Glenn · 23 Nov 2006

ははは、ひどいじゃない、キョウちゃん！

麻薬に関しての映画をたくさん見ただけだからかもしれんな。

Kyoko_desu · 25 Nov 2006

thread title
so i'm going to tokyo soon

Post #39
I think you two should wait to go to Japan before your plan has been formalized somewhere other than on a cocktail napkin...

From the context, I guess the sentence roughly means 計画をきちんと具体的にたててから日本に行くべきだ, and "a cocktail napkin" should be a symbol or a representation of something unformalized.

Presuming it an idiom, I searched several sites for "on a cocktail napkin" but couldn't figure out. Is it yukil_michael-san's original expression? What do English-speaking people generally associate a cocktail napkin with?

Yoroshiku onegaishimas.

moofs · 25 Nov 2006

A cocktail napkin is used when you drink cocktails. Drinking cocktails = under the influence of alcohol = not in the right state of mind. So yukil's just saying that he should think his plan over when he's capable of making correct decisions, and not do anything stupid. And then he can go to Japan.

A lot of times you'll see people write on napkins at bars, pubs, or wherever. It's common to write notes (for yourself or if you're wanting some...) or play some game or something (tic-tac-toe?). It can be any kind of napkin really, like the ones you get when you order food.

leonmarino · 25 Nov 2006

We write things on beer coaster when drinking in bars.. Man o man o man, the countless times I found a beer coaster with something written on it in my pocket the next morning, thinking "what is this!?" Sometimes phone numbers too, but there were times I could honestly not remember who the person was.

Kyoko_desu · 26 Nov 2006

moofs said:
Drinking cocktails = under the influence of alcohol = not in the right state of mind.

Ah! I see! Now I can fully understand what the sentence means! Thanks for the good explanation, moofs-san! It was really helpful!

Originally Posted by leonmarino
We write things on beer coaster when drinking in bars.. Man o man o man, the countless times I found a beer coaster with something written on it in my pocket the next morning, thinking "what is this!?" Sometimes phone numbers too, but there were times I could honestly not remember who the person was.

YOU BAD BOY!!!!!

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