Gazza Massacre.....

[Emoni]

Tsuyoiko,there are israelian people who want to live in peace WITH the palistenian.
BUT most of israelian want to destroy palestainian.
in my country ( Yemen ) there are about 50,000 Jewish live in peace with us and we protect them,we dont allow anyone to hurt them.
Emoni,Do you think Hamas terrorists ?
they have the right to protect their own land,just like you.
and how could you compare Hamas's weapons to the israelian weapons ?
can you say the truth !

Ok Hezam, just for your sake. Let's assume you are 100% correct on every single thing that you are saying. That all Israelis are criminals. That Hamas apparently has comparable weapons and is firing rocks, setting off bombs in cars and builds, suicide bombers is acceptable to protect "their own land." That no one has the ability to complain at all about Hamas attacks and that (implied) Hamas has taken no terrorist-like actions in any attack.

Would you care to explain where this "logic" gets the region in terms of a resolution? What specific actions, and path would you take if you were in control of both sides to come to what you see as a resolution?

Now, tell me exactly what, how, and why you would do things. What would be the result?

 

[Red5]

To refute your claim I have only to find one single Israeli person who does not agree with the occupation. As for your claim that all Israelis are criminals, should we start by arresting new born babies?

first of all jewish is religion and not nation ..so Israel now in palestain for history reasons since English and France occupation , and that not matter ..

so now jews live with Arab in palestain and some jews don't like the war between each other and others want to expel Arab from their country ,
so the near meaning to criminal is concern with government and military force , but also (as Hezam mean ) most jews citizens plan to expel the arab so they're criminal too ...

Emoni,Do you think Hamas terrorists ?
they have the right to protect their own land,just like you.
and how could you compare Hamas's weapons to the israelian weapons ?
can you say the truth !

in every place there is occupation and resistance ...
I don't think that Hamas is occupation and Israel is resistance

 

[Remixer]

Reading this thread, it is quite obvious which side the arab members of this forum represent.

Personally, I couldn't care less about what is happening over there right now.

The acts of both sides are ridiculous and amount to a great deal of stupidity.

Israel obviously overkills, but defends it as an adequate action. Palaestinians whine about return fire from the Israeli military after sending rockets into Israel. The cycle continues.

It's soap opera material.

And look at that, a person living in an arab country (me) is saying this.


Remixer

 

[Hezam]

the first step they should do is Stop fire froom both sides,And Israel must implement the decisions of the UN Security Council.
You will agree with this,right ?
BUT israel will not implement the decisions of the UN Security Council as always.
Can you tell me what the best Solution ????????
Dont blame me,we had enough from this criminal country called "israel".

 

[Tsuyoiko]

there are israelian people who want to live in peace WITH the palistenian.
BUT most of israelian want to destroy palestainian.

Thanks Hezam, you just proved yourself that what you earlier claimed as a fact (i.e., that all Israelis are criminals) is not at all true; some Israelis want to live in peace with Palestinians.

first of all jewish is religion and not nation ..so Israel now in palestain for history reasons since English and France occupation , and that not matter ..
so now jews live with Arab in palestain and some jews don't like the war between each other and others want to expel Arab from their country ,
so the near meaning to criminal is concern with government and military force , but also (as Hezam mean ) most jews citizens plan to expel the arab so they're criminal too ...

I think you're the first person to mention Jews. As far as I know, until now we were talking about Israelis. Israel is a nation; around 25% of its residents are non-Jewish.

 

[Hezam]

Tsuyoiko,there are many jewish came to israel to work and to find a good job,they involved in this issue without their desire.
as i said,we protected jewish since the first day islam appeared,but what makes me very upset is those poeple in israel who fight us !
we are always trying to live in peace with them.
in Yemen there are millions of weapons with Yemeni people but Yemeni jewish have not any weapon,although they live in peace ! we dont allow anyone to touch them or insult them ! So why dont those people in israel do like we do ?
That's what i want to say from the beginning.
Who read the history of jewish and muslims will be suprised,and he will understand why we are very mad at them.

killing people or hate them for a religious reason is very very silly and meaningless.

best regards to all.

 

[Hime]

Can you watch the true meaning of War according to Israel?

 

[Remixer]

I am not exactly a fan of Israel but I only have one thing to say regarding that Youtube Video:

I am utterly disgusted and appalled at the way they paraded the corpse of a child.

And that is coming from someone who is generally pro-palestinian.

Those people should be shot. I hope Israel drops a bomb on them. Enough said.


Remixer

 

[Emoni]

I am utterly disgusted and appalled at the way they paraded the corpse of a child.

We start with something that many posters would agree on. Dragging the corpse of a poor baby around for the camera like that was extremely messed up. It was very sick. I'm not going to judge too harshly; however, as I wasn't there nor do I know the details of the video. For all I know that could be relatives of the child and they are hysterical. Still an awful thing though.

Those people should be shot. I hope Israel drops a bomb on them. Enough said.

Remixer

... and then we get to the insane SICKER response which exemplifies the mentality of the entire region and why wars and conflicts like this continue endlessly with this type of logic from both sides of the absurd conflict.

 

[Remixer]

That's the way it is, it seems.

I really would not mind, though. Not exactly the vengeful kind of person, but their worth as humans dropped in my eyes.


Remixer

 

[Red5]

I think you're the first person to mention Jews. As far as I know, until now we were talking about Israelis. Israel is a nation; around 25% of its residents are non-Jewish.

I just speak about origin of Israel and they're in the wrong place .
after they'd big number of jews , they become Israel and that not our subject and our subject about killing in palestain ..

 

[Red5]

That's the way it is, it seems.

I really would not mind, though. Not exactly the vengeful kind of person, but their worth as humans dropped in my eyes.

all jewishes and Israel people are not desirable anymore ,
and the famous words from Hetler about jewish :
(( I could born all jewishes in the world ,but I let few of them to see why I
was borned them ))

 

[Remixer]

all jewishes and Israel people are not desirable anymore ,
and the famous words from Hetler about jewish :
(( I could born all jewishes in the world ,but I let few of them to see why I
was borned them ))

I am sorry. I have no clue whatsoever what your comment was about.

Also, I am wondering where Hitler, and being jewish or not came into play.

My comment was directed at the particular group of people in the Youtube Video.

What nationality/ideology they belong to has no relevance in what I said.




Remixer

 

[Red5]

I am sorry. I have no clue whatsoever what your comment was about.
Also, I am wondering where Hitler, and being jewish or not came into play.
My comment was directed at the particular group of people in the Youtube Video.
What nationality/ideology they belong to has no relevance in what I said.
Remixer

all your participations that you dont care about what happen in Gazza ,
you have to image your self in this country and then decide and you're from Arab country and we have to have one decision in this case .... ☝

 

[Remixer]

all your participations that you dont care about what happen in Gazza ,
you have to image your self in this country and then decide and you're from Arab country and we have to have one decision in this case .... ☝

Please pardon me, should I have misunderstood your post. I am having trouble to do so.

I may live in an Arab country, but I myself belong to no society.

I refuse to partake in the stupidity regarding the conflict between the Arab world and Israel. Both sides are filled with fools.

They can do whatever they like.



Remixer

 

[Red5]

Please pardon me, should I have misunderstood your post. I am having trouble to do so.
I may live in an Arab country, but I myself belong to no society.
I refuse to partake in the stupidity regarding the conflict between the Arab world and Israel. Both sides are filled with fools.
They can do whatever they like.
Remixer

it's ok , I understand you , although that's stupidity but that what happen now ...
and you're in far country but Syria in near and in the conflict between them
and maybe any time , there is a war

 

[Emoni]

I refuse to partake in the stupidity regarding the conflict between the Arab world and Israel. Both sides are filled with fools.
They can do whatever they like.
Remixer

You don't want to take part in the stupidity, but you would like to see people die and get blown up for what you saw in a video related to it. Kind of... sickeningly ironic logic don't you think?

Hey, I'm all for staying out of this crap. However, I'm not going to maliciously hope for the deaths of people...

 

[Remixer]

You don't want to take part in the stupidity, but you would like to see people die and get blown up for what you saw in a video related to it. Kind of... sickeningly ironic logic don't you think?
Hey, I'm all for staying out of this crap. However, I'm not going to maliciously hope for the deaths of people...

Hmm...

I see that you are the type of person who aims to get on the nerves of others via the popular route taken by pseudo-intellectuals known as being a cynical smartarse.

All well.

Though you will always fail at getting a rise out of me, it really is fun to read your comments.

As I said, it was directed only at the people in the Video. Whether they were jewish israelis, muslim palestinian, european aristocrats, american politicians or conservative japanese, it has zero relevance.

I do not wish for them to die, but if they do, I seriously would not mind.



Remixer

 

[Emoni]

I do not wish for them to die, but if they do, I seriously would not mind.
Remixer

Those people should be shot. I hope Israel drops a bomb on them. Enough said.
Remixer

Has nothing to do with getting a rise out of you. I couldn't care less about your emotional state.

You posted the above statements, skirt around the issue, then deny/change stories. This seems to be a common theme for you, and definitely isn't what many on this board would consider respectable behavior.

As much as I see this conflict as awful, pointless, and just a mess that I want nothing to do with, this thread is already a sensitive topic, and wishing people to get shot and bombed regardless of the side (which was never the issue) is pretty disgraceful, and you should be ashamed of yourself for posting such careless and immature comments like that.

 

[Jericho Desu]

I agree with Emoni whole heartedly, Remixer you have gone too far, people are people and should be respected as such. If you do not respect fellow human beings then you do not respect yourself.

Anyway as for the topic I find any type of conflict involving death appalling and I'd hope most would agree with that. I am not well versed in the history of the two countries involved so I don't understand what is the reason for this conflict, however innocent lives have been lost and for me that is whats most horrible. That people who just want to live get dragged down, because their or some other government decide there's not enough blood flowing on the streets...

 

[Hezam]

wishing people to get shot and bombed regardless of the side (which was never the issue) is pretty disgraceful, and you should be ashamed of yourself for posting such careless and immature comments like that.

I agree with Emoni whole heartedly, Remixer you have gone too far, people are people and should be respected as such. If you do not respect fellow human beings then you do not respect yourself.

I agree with you two.
and i am suprised how dare he say that !!

I am not well versed in the history of the two countries involved so I don't understand what is the reason for this conflict

it's not "two countries" ,you know there is a part of syria and Lebannon Occupied,
and i belive that first reason is religious,the jewish belive in the dreamland wich is palestain !!!

let's pray to stop this war !

 

[Remixer]

Has nothing to do with getting a rise out of you. I couldn't care less about your emotional state.

You posted the above statements, skirt around the issue, then deny/change stories. This seems to be a common theme for you, and definitely isn't what many on this board would consider respectable behavior.

As much as I see this conflict as awful, pointless, and just a mess that I want nothing to do with, this thread is already a sensitive topic, and wishing people to get shot and bombed regardless of the side (which was never the issue) is pretty disgraceful, and you should be ashamed of yourself for posting such careless and immature comments like that.

If I truly were to change my position on what I say, I may just as well have edited my previous post to leave you with a baseless claim.

You may think of me whatever you may, but in truth, your opinion has little importance.

I have no problem with confirming what I said in regards to the Youtube Video. I was in a state of extreme disgust and I have no reason to deny that it was what I thought about in my initial reaction.

However, after gaining back complete composure and the ability to be more reasonable, I do not wish death on anyone.

Whatever you may lay my behaviour out to be, do it in your head. I believe myself to be quite a lot more honorable than you, even though this will be taken as pure arrogance.



Remixer

 

[pugtm]

The very title of the thread is sheer stupidity. consider historical cases of similar events.
WW2 when the germans launched a few rockets at random at london.
the "proportional" response? the complete firebombing of Dresden resulting in the deaths of 250,000 civilians.
not to mention that hamas also has been using illegal weapons and this is by no means a massacre. what about the human shields? what about using mosques and schools and hospitals as bases? what massacre? i only see self restraint of the worst kind. were there should be none.
how about this video

were they call for children to gather at the house of terrorists?
or this one of anti aircraft guns in a mosque.

 

[Hezam]

Remixer,Sorry if we misunderstand you and thanks for clearing up your opinion again ^^

 

[Tsuyoiko]

I just speak about origin of Israel and they're in the wrong place .
after they'd big number of jews , they become Israel and that not our subject and our subject about killing in palestain ..

The Israelites/Israelis have certainly considered it their home for over three thousand years. I think that the Jewish population in the region was at its lowest point when the Muslim conquests captured the region from the Byzantine Empire in the seventh century. However, I'm pretty sure that there has been a continuous Jewish presence in the region throughout the three thousand years since the Israelite kingdoms first established themselves in the area.

Where would you suggest as an alternative?

all jewishes and Israel people are not desirable anymore ,
and the famous words from Hetler about jewish :
(( I could born all jewishes in the world ,but I let few of them to see why I
was borned them ))

Jews and Israelis are not desirable anymore? I don't want to jump to conclusions as to what you mean by that, so could you explain in a bit more detail?

I'm not sure Hitler is the best person to quote if you want to sound authoritative on the subject of Jewish people ☝