Na+hodo
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Glenn
一切皆苦
- 8 Jan 2004
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Seems to me like it should be である or の, but maybe の doesn't really go well before ほど so they decided to go with a more informal way of saying it than with である and used な (kind of like what seems to have happened with わけ -- あいつって、前言ってた強い人なわけ？). Or maybe I'm remembering that wrong.
undrentide
Japa'n vagyok
- 18 Jan 2006
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hodo means a degree of something, usually followed by a noun, adjective, or phrase.
But to me "tsuyoi teki na hodo" sounds wrong.
The only possibility I can think of is na-adjective + hodo such as:
kawaisou na hodo (to the degree that one feels sorry for (her/him/it))
If it is "tsuyoi teki hodo" or "tsuyoi teki to omou hodo" or "tsuyoi teki ni naru hodo" etc., that makes sense.
If it is not a type but a correct quotation of a phrase from a song, then it is simple "not grammatically correct" even though written by a native....
But to me "tsuyoi teki na hodo" sounds wrong.
The only possibility I can think of is na-adjective + hodo such as:
kawaisou na hodo (to the degree that one feels sorry for (her/him/it))
If it is "tsuyoi teki hodo" or "tsuyoi teki to omou hodo" or "tsuyoi teki ni naru hodo" etc., that makes sense.
If it is not a type but a correct quotation of a phrase from a song, then it is simple "not grammatically correct" even though written by a native....
Ashikaga
もちもちした食感
- 19 Feb 2008
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Don't ask me how I know...but this is a line from a theme song to an anime series, Kishin-Douji ZENKI.
奴は笑う 強い敵なほど
牙を剥き 「ふざけるな」と吠える
Above is the line in question in Japanese.
Looks like it is saying that 「 The more formidable the opponents, he tends to laugh (them off). He bares his fangs and screams "F*** you!!"」
The meaning would have been clearer if it had said, 奴は笑う 敵が強ければ強いほど.
Like Undrentide has said, the grammar may be a bit off but I am not 100% sure. I DO, however, understand what the lyricist is trying to say here. I suppose that is enough for a pop song.
奴は笑う 強い敵なほど
牙を剥き 「ふざけるな」と吠える
Above is the line in question in Japanese.
Looks like it is saying that 「 The more formidable the opponents, he tends to laugh (them off). He bares his fangs and screams "F*** you!!"」
The meaning would have been clearer if it had said, 奴は笑う 敵が強ければ強いほど.
Like Undrentide has said, the grammar may be a bit off but I am not 100% sure. I DO, however, understand what the lyricist is trying to say here. I suppose that is enough for a pop song.
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undrentide
Japa'n vagyok
- 18 Jan 2006
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Ah, ASHIKAGA san, that makes more sense!
The 2nd line make it all different - it is another usage of hodo, even it is a bit awkward and not really grammatical...
The 2nd line make it all different - it is another usage of hodo, even it is a bit awkward and not really grammatical...
Chidoriashi
In imagination land
- 2 Feb 2007
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Lots of song lyrics don't make a lot of sense in many languages. And Japanese is no exception. It is all poetic or for the sake of melody or feeling or something.
Ashikaga is that your dog in the pic by the way?
Ashikaga is that your dog in the pic by the way?
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LukeSettle
先輩
- 24 Nov 2007
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Poetic license.
off topic:
Ahahaha its otousan from the softbank ads. Softbank ads are like a family i guess and the dad is a dog, lmao. i dont really get it but its funny XD
BTW, ashikaga-san, i love those commercials, even though i only understand 1 word every 10 seconds.. Dont get the 15 second ads at all..
Now whenever i see your avatar i think of him running away from okaasan. x)
ahaha that really showed me how japanese would use anata too.
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The present picture is from "the alumni association party" version.
In the newest one, otousan was speaking French, and it came to light that he had once studied in Sorbonne.
In the newest one, otousan was speaking French, and it came to light that he had once studied in Sorbonne.
Chidoriashi
In imagination land
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LukeSettle> haha yeah you are right. I recognize it now. The reason I asked was because he had another picture of a dog as his avatar before and they looked similar.. cannot recognize the other one from any commercial though..
