Ask Jaybot Japanese WWII surrender culture
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In what circumstances, as dictated by their bushido culture, could Japanese soldiers surrender in the Second World War?
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In the context of the Second World War and the bushido culture followed by Japanese soldiers, surrender was generally considered dishonorable and was often seen as a last resort. However, there were certain circumstances under which Japanese soldiers might choose to surrender:
1. Unwinnable Situation: When faced with overwhelming enemy forces and defeat was inevitable, some Japanese soldiers might choose to surrender rather than fight to the death needlessly.
2. Protecting Civilians: In situations where surrendering could potentially protect civilians or non-combatants, some Japanese soldiers might decide to lay down their arms to prevent unnecessary harm.
3. Preserving Resources: If a unit was low on ammunition, food, or medical supplies, surrendering could be seen as a way to preserve resources and potentially survive to fight another day.
4. Orders from Superiors: In some cases, Japanese soldiers were ordered by their superiors to surrender, especially if it served a strategic purpose or if further resistance was deemed futile.
5. Survival of Commanding Officers: Surrendering to ensure the survival of commanding officers who could potentially lead future operations was also a consideration in some situations.
6. Prisoners of War: Some Japanese soldiers chose to surrender to become prisoners of war in the hope of surviving the conflict and being repatriated after the war.
It is important to note that the decision to surrender was complex and influenced by various factors including individual beliefs, unit cohesion, loyalty to the Emperor, and the specific circumstances of each situation. While bushido emphasized concepts like loyalty, honor, and self-sacrifice, the realities of war sometimes necessitated pragmatic decisions such as surrender.
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Looking at the above, and in response to the OP, I would say the only acceptable answer is
4. Orders from Superiors:
The other answers provide possible scenarios under which surrender happened, or may have happened, but I think the reality of the war and the ethos of the time meant that surrender was only conceivable if superiors ordered it. I don't think any soldier would contemplate surrendering to preserve supplies. And there is ample evidence that civilians were ordered to fight to the end, so that kind of eliminates 1 (unwinnable situation) and 2 (protecting civilians), on its face. Regarding #5, Survival of Commanding Officers: I don't quite understand this one. I don't know if there was ever a case where a junior officer elected to surrender in order to save a superior officer. It doesn't sound plausible to me, and I think the commanding officer would have more likely ordered the junior officer to fight to the death (gyokusai) rather than surrender.
Surrendering to become a prisoner of war is most definitely not a part of bushido culture, and was not at all acceptable under the rules of combat for Japanese soldiers in WW2. There is nothing but shame heaped on the soldier who allows himself to be taken prisoner. You can see from the prolonged deliberations that happened at the war cabinet meetings in Tokyo, that there was a faction within the military/government that accepted the war was unwinnable, yet persisted fighting, and probably felt that an occupied Japan was not worth living in, so it was preferable to die in battle rather than be taken prisoner.
The shame of being taken prisoner instead of dying in battle was enormous. You can read about it in certain war diaries written by Japanese soldiers, particularly in Papua New Guinea. You can see hints of it in the hundreds of battle flags that people post on here. Barely any of the flags talk about returning home safely. Instead, they almost all talk about fighting to the finish, or "giving your all for the country". Not only would it be shameful to return to a defeated country (the defeat being a result of your own failed efforts), but it would be unbearable to meet your neighbors if they had any sons who died in battle. You would forever be seen as someone who failed as a Japanese soldier, who failed at protecting Japan, and who failed your fallen comrades. For many returnees I'm sure it was a mental trauma from which there was no healing.
Some of this shame have been partially ameliorated by the Emperor's , orders to stop fighting. Had you fought until the end of the war, and only then returned, reluctantly, due to orders from the Emperor, the source of the shame would be dissipated, and you could probably return to a life that wasn't tainted so much by briefly being a prisoner. Also, if you were captured in Manchuria or Korea at the end of the war, and held by either the Chinese or the Russians for some time, the harsh experience in these POW camps could be seen as a partial penance for being taken as a prisoner.
But I don't think there are any other scenarios where it was "acceptable" to surrender. This notwithstanding, there were of course some soldiers who thought, "this is bollocks, I'm out of here", and gave themselves up to the US. Particularly in PNG, where soldiers were facing starvation, and were reduced to eating bits of leather or twigs and whatnot. The hunger got to some of them, and it became even more unbearable than any thoughts of shame.
4. Orders from Superiors:
The other answers provide possible scenarios under which surrender happened, or may have happened, but I think the reality of the war and the ethos of the time meant that surrender was only conceivable if superiors ordered it. I don't think any soldier would contemplate surrendering to preserve supplies. And there is ample evidence that civilians were ordered to fight to the end, so that kind of eliminates 1 (unwinnable situation) and 2 (protecting civilians), on its face. Regarding #5, Survival of Commanding Officers: I don't quite understand this one. I don't know if there was ever a case where a junior officer elected to surrender in order to save a superior officer. It doesn't sound plausible to me, and I think the commanding officer would have more likely ordered the junior officer to fight to the death (gyokusai) rather than surrender.
Surrendering to become a prisoner of war is most definitely not a part of bushido culture, and was not at all acceptable under the rules of combat for Japanese soldiers in WW2. There is nothing but shame heaped on the soldier who allows himself to be taken prisoner. You can see from the prolonged deliberations that happened at the war cabinet meetings in Tokyo, that there was a faction within the military/government that accepted the war was unwinnable, yet persisted fighting, and probably felt that an occupied Japan was not worth living in, so it was preferable to die in battle rather than be taken prisoner.
The shame of being taken prisoner instead of dying in battle was enormous. You can read about it in certain war diaries written by Japanese soldiers, particularly in Papua New Guinea. You can see hints of it in the hundreds of battle flags that people post on here. Barely any of the flags talk about returning home safely. Instead, they almost all talk about fighting to the finish, or "giving your all for the country". Not only would it be shameful to return to a defeated country (the defeat being a result of your own failed efforts), but it would be unbearable to meet your neighbors if they had any sons who died in battle. You would forever be seen as someone who failed as a Japanese soldier, who failed at protecting Japan, and who failed your fallen comrades. For many returnees I'm sure it was a mental trauma from which there was no healing.
Some of this shame have been partially ameliorated by the Emperor's , orders to stop fighting. Had you fought until the end of the war, and only then returned, reluctantly, due to orders from the Emperor, the source of the shame would be dissipated, and you could probably return to a life that wasn't tainted so much by briefly being a prisoner. Also, if you were captured in Manchuria or Korea at the end of the war, and held by either the Chinese or the Russians for some time, the harsh experience in these POW camps could be seen as a partial penance for being taken as a prisoner.
But I don't think there are any other scenarios where it was "acceptable" to surrender. This notwithstanding, there were of course some soldiers who thought, "this is bollocks, I'm out of here", and gave themselves up to the US. Particularly in PNG, where soldiers were facing starvation, and were reduced to eating bits of leather or twigs and whatnot. The hunger got to some of them, and it became even more unbearable than any thoughts of shame.
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The fate of surviving kamikaze pilots illustrates this dilemma:
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www.nytimes.com
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He Escaped Death as a Kamikaze Pilot. 70 Years Later, He Told His Story. (Published 2020)
Kazuo Odachi is one of the last living members of a group never meant to survive. He wants to remind Japan that before its modern success came the sacrifices of the young pilots who gave their lives.
