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Where do I start?

Black_Cat

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I wish to learn Japanese. I mean who on here does'nt. One day I wish to travel across Japan, but the very thought of going over there and not knowing a word scares me (plus its just rude). So where should i begin? Are there any handy websites out there that help teach the basics? To thouse out there who are experience in the language where did you start? What got you going. I thrist for knowledge so if anyone could tell me that would be a great help.
Thank you for your time ^_^
 
I wish to learn Japanese. I mean who on here does'nt.
Surprisingly a lot of people... even some admins and mods choose not to--- which is their personal choice. There are only sections of the forum for learning Japanese--- the rest of the board is for discussion of things in Japan, where sometimes it seems not even a precursory knowledge of Japan is required to offer some opinion... but thats just my 2en.

I'm curious, not trying to be insulting, but did you look around and see any of the twenty odd similar questions on the forum before you asked this?
 
Black,

I have three words of advice.

Hiragana, hiragana, hiragana.

You must have them down cold before you do anything else.
 
Hirigana is the basic alphebet of of sounds, Japanese kids learn them in kindergarten/nursery school
There is also the katakana, which are for western sounds, pretty much the same apart from differant symbols.
Then there is Kanji which the Japanese keep learning till they die, and in the end so will you...
 
I'm gonna sound like a noob here but whats Kana, Hiragana, hiragana and hiragana?
I'm sorry, I should have been more explicit. I was refering to both hiragana and katakana.
They are a group of characters (46 for each syllabary: 92 total) that you use to write japanese. Later you'll also use kanji to write, but I don't worry about that right now.
 
Thank you all so much for your help. So just so I have a understanding is Hirigana and katakana like their alphabet or just how they things when they talk?
 
Thank you all so much for your help. So just so I have a understanding is Hirigana and katakana like their alphabet or just how they things when they talk?
Japanese has a limited number of possible sounds, the only language I think with fewer possible sounds is Korean, but don't quote me on this.

Each "kana" or character in hiragana or katakana represents ONE sound that can be made in japanese, chained together these of course make words.

Hiragana is a sort of "short-hand" cursive for more complicated Kanji, Kanji are ideographs borrowed from the Chinese language, since Japan did not have a written language at the time... An ideograph is, in basic terms, is a visual representation of something, some physical thing, or idea (hence ideograph) not unlike hyroplyphs, which are different but.... in the old days the kanji 窶愿コ, for sun, used to look more or less like a sun, with a dot in the middle... Or perhaps that was a moon... that's not important... in any case, these things looked more or less like what they represented, and gradually became more stylized.

Hiragana was a means of letting lay-people write, (males generally wrote entirely in kanji, while women wrote in hiragana)... Hiragana is like short-hand kanji, reducing the number of strokes in kanji from several, to only a few.

Katakana on the other hand which is used mostly to represent foreign words, and words used for emphasis, is a particular part of (a/some/it doesn't mattter really which for laymans purposes) kanji, taken from it, and used in and of itself as a new character to represent one sound.

ed: Read this: I need help Identifying a Kanji character thread, concerning the correct terminology of ideograph versus logograph... you probably can just as well skip it, as it more concerns semi-advanced linguistics.

thanks, Glenn
 
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