Glenn said:Most likely it's for the desiderative form (~たい) or adjectives that you've seen that with. Since adjectives aren't verbs they don't take direct objects, and since the ~たい form makes verbs into adjectives in effect, that form generally doesn't take direct objects, although there are exceptions.
So, for example, すしが食べたい! いい車が欲しい, and お前のことが好きだ. If that's not what you're talking about then I don't know.
As for は being an emphasis particle for を, when it's used as the contrastive marker and it replaces を it serves to emphasize contrast. Its use in this way isn't just limited to を, of course. You could have something like 留学生はロシアからは来たんですが、カナダからは来ませんでした, etc.
[EDIT] I just remembered about the 分かる, 要る group. Here's the rule according to 日本語基本文法辞典: "when predicates are transitive adjectives or stative transitive verbs, the elements which correspond to the direct object in English are marked by ga." I don't know how much that'll help, though, unless you can pick out a stative transitive verb by sight.
And I've seen it in a similar context, what a fascinating coincidence ifWhy do you see Xを好き ?
Its not very common but its deffinately around. It might have something to do with people or onself? A situation I might have seen it, could have been something like this(I'm making it up)
彼女は僕を好きかな
Am I getting anywhere?
Thanks again!
Is that "tameshita" the past tense of 試す ("to attempt or test")? The root must be ためす, right?nhk9 said:A: Sushi ha tabeta koto ga aru (has the meaning of "sushi nara tameshita koto ga aru)
In what cases would you use 行っていました instead of 行きました? Wouldn't the former have the impression of "was walking" (the past progressive)?WHEATTHlNS said:Tabete on its own contains no verb tense. Tabete kudasai; tabete, gakko ni itteimashita - these carry verb tenses. "Please eat" (present tense), "I ate and went to school" (past tense).
You are right about the tamesu partJ44xm said:Is that "tameshita" the past tense of 試す ("to attempt or test")? The root must be ためす, right?
In what cases would you use 行っていました instead of 行きました? Wouldn't the former have the impression of "was walking" (the past progressive)?
Thanks.
を is sometimes used to make it clear whether someone likes or is liked, like in this situation.Elizabeth said:And I've seen it in a similar context, what a fascinating coincidence if
that is what it turns out to be. 彼が好き used here would give unusual emphasis to him perhaps, as the one she likes or not, as opposed to someone else ?
彼女は彼を好きか嫌いかもわからないのに。。
Although I would say itte imasu can just as easily refer to a future condition or expected state about yourself or anyone else. For instance, I will be in Tokyo for two weeks. [2週間東京に行っている」 or of course 「2週間東京に行って来 る]Glenn said:About 行っています: I've always seen it as "is there." For instance, 聞いたか。武(たけし)はアメリカに行ってるよ!すごいな〜! Here it's "did you hear? Takeshi's in America! Sugoi ne!" (sorry, didn't feel like thinking of a good English equivalent for that one at the moment). So, it's used when you talk about someone being somewhere that is away from the speaker and that the person who is there has gone to. Does that make sense?
By the way, 来る can be used in the same way. ほお、雄介(ゆうすけ)も来ている! "Well lookie here, even Yûsuke is here!" I assume this would be said in a situation like when you arrive at a party and notice that someone is already there. At least that's the only type of situation I can think of that this sentence would fit.
Itte kuru is fine as well in that situation as well. I will go and come back in two weeks....Glenn said:Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can use it for future as well as present states. 行ってくる, on the other hand, is a different beast.
nice gaijin said:i believe that 行っている only implies that the the subject has departed, and does not imply a persistent state of motion or travel. I think in order to do this, 行っている途中 must be used. In the sense of "is there," I think that 行ってる is closer to "has left for," although it usually follows that they have arrived there as well.
Glenn said:を is sometimes used to make it clear whether someone likes or is liked, like in this situation.
甲:好きだね。
乙:誰が?
甲:あなた。
乙:誰を?
甲:はち。
I think in the situation you brought up こと would be used to clarify things: 彼女は彼のことが好きか嫌いか。。。 And of course there are the considerations of omitting the 彼女は and using が instead, etc., but those fall under a different category. I'm pretty sure that 彼女が好きです will 95% of the time mean "I like/love her," and it places no special emphasis on "her."
Buntaro said:Here is something about verbs that has not been mentioned yet. For yomu, there are the five basic ma mi mu me mo forms:
ma: yomanai - I don't read (it).
mi: yomimasu - I read (it). (polite)
mu: yomu - I read (it). (informal) This is also called the plain form and the dictionary form.
me: yomeru - I can read (it).
mo: yomou - Let's read (it).
All serious beginning students of Japanese should own this book:
501 Japanese Verbs
Amazon product ASIN 0764102850It lists one verb on each page, and lists all of the zillions of forms that single verb can take.
By the way, the picture of the book is clickable. Go through the book and take a look at the multitude of forms possible. For example, on page three is AGARU and its 56 forms.
The distinction between state and action is a little lost on me here since Itte iru can also be used in advance of an actual departure, as can itte kuru, or at least this is how my Japanese friends have explained it. And both seem logical enough to me although its always possible there was a misunderstanding.nice gaijin said:i believe that 行っている only implies that the the subject has departed, and does not imply a persistent state of motion or travel. I think in order to do this, 行っている途中 must be used. In the sense of "is there," I think that 行ってる is closer to "has left for," although it usually follows that they have arrived there as well.