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That's just fine, GCL
"Motte imasu" can either be used for "holding" or "to own something."nice gaijin said:That's just fine, GCLYou could also say "私はPSPがあります。" both work just fine; motteimasu is a bit closer to "I am holding a PSP," but either one would be acceptable.
OK, well if no one else is taking the bait....GoldCoinLover said:I see.
Thank you. How exactly would I use and change a verb conjugate for this?
I have had a PSP.
In the future, I will have a PSP.
nice gaijin said:That's just fine, GCLYou could also say "私はPSPがあります。" both work just fine; motteimasu is a bit closer to "I am holding a PSP," but either one would be acceptable.
Elizabeth said:OK, well if no one else is taking the bait....
I have had a PSP. ーー＞ PSPを持っていた。
And just one other note....The future one may come as a gift, but if you're
planning to buy it yourself, I think using that verb directly may be clearer and more natural than 持つ or 'have one' alone.
将来は（しょらい）、（また）PCPを買（か）います(買うでしょう。。。)
In the future, I will again buy a PCP.
Upon reading this sentence, but before I saw your handle, I thought "Doinkies" was a store's name. Heh. Regardless, I just want to verify that 持ってる is a contraction of 持っている as I strongly suspect. Thanks.doinkies said:ドインキーズはPSPを持っていないけど、PS2を持ってる。
J44xm said:Regardless, I just want to verify that 持ってる is a contraction of 持っている as I strongly suspect. Thanks.
This is understandable if "she" is understood but still a little awkward. Unless it was in response to a specific question, "Ga" instead of "kedo" is often used for these types of comparisons.ドインキーズはPSPを持っていないけど、PS2を持ってる。
doinkies doesn't have a PSP, but she has a PS2.
Why "ga" instead of "kedo"? Generally, the only difference between "ga" and "kedo" is that the former is formal/written-style while the latter is casual/spoken-style. doinkies' original utterance was casual, so I can't see any good reason why you'd need/want to find a way to put "ga" in there.Elizabeth said:This is understandable if "she" is understood but still a little awkward. Unless it was in response to a specific question, "Ga" instead of "kedo" is often used for these types of comparisons.
ドインキーズはPSPを持っていないですが、彼女はPS2を持ってる。のほうが自然ですね。
...then it works pretty well, I think.a random blog said:「今日ね、あゆはね、デザイナーのうえけんさんって人と メールをしたのぉー そしたらかわいいイラストもらったよ☆」
nice gaijin said:I'm not sure if it's often used, but I believe the name Nintendo can be written in kanji as 任天堂. A google search brought up the official site, so I guess I'm not far off.
Just a bit of trivia, pay no mind
Elizabeth said:This is understandable if "she" is understood but still a little awkward. Unless it was in response to a specific question, "Ga" instead of "kedo" is often used for these types of comparisons.
ドインキーズはPSPを持っていないですが、彼女はPS2を持ってる。のほうが自然ですね。
doinkies said:持（も）っていた (have had) is the past tense form of 持っている (have [as in possessing something]). The ~ます form of it is simply 持っています and the past tense of it in the ～ます form is 持っていました.
Two example sentences:
妹（いもうと）はニンテンドーDSを持っています。
My little sister has a Nintendo DS.
ドインキーズはPSPを持っていないけど、PS2を持ってる。
doinkies doesn't have a PSP, but she has a PS2.
GoldCoinLover said:Elizabeth, this brings up a curious question.
By undestood, do you mean state the subject with 'ga'? This makes it understood, so when you talk about it after, the subject is understood. Moreover, if you do this, sometimes (if it is understood) you can even make a whole sentence with a verb, right? Loosely speaking.
I just read it quickly once but was assuming since the first sentence was about his sister, that was the same "she" he was referring to in the second English translation as well. This third person insanity has got to end NOW !!!Also, I think 「彼女は」 is unnecessary. It's pretty clear that the entire sentence refers to doinkies, and that doinkies is referring to herself in the third person -- something which I think is easier to get away with in Japanese than in English, anyway. I personally wouldn't be caught dead doing it, but if you're the kind of person (usually a teenage girl) who would speak like this: ...then it works pretty well, I think.
If I were going to change anything in the original sentence, I'd probably change those 「を」's to something else. PSPは持ってないけど、PS2は持ってる (or even 「PS2なら持ってる」 for that second half... I may be overreaching myself here, but hey -- living on the edge, man! It's what I'm all about!)
Elizabeth said:This third person insanity has got to end NOW !!!
私はPSPは持ってないけど、PS2なら持ってる is definitely something out there (I mean a structure that I've seen a lotIf I were going to change anything in the original sentence, I'd probably change those 「を」's to something else. PSPは持ってないけど、PS2は持ってる (or even 「PS2なら持ってる」 for that second half... I may be overreaching myself here, but hey -- living on the edge, man! It's what I'm all about!)
doinkies said:Hehe...
Now that I think about it, 私はPSPは持ってないけど、PS2なら持ってる does sound more correct. Sorry if I confused you with the "doinkies" thing...it's kind of a habit to refer to myself as doinkies online. But I'll try not to speak in the third person as much here.
doinkies said:Sorry if I confused you with the "doinkies" thing...it's kind of a habit to refer to myself as doinkies online. But I'll try not to speak in the third person as much here.
1) I think that its the same as the conditional nara. I guess you could think of the sentence as "I don't have a PSP, but if we're taking about a PS2 then I've got one."J44xm said:1. 「私はPSPは持ってないけど、PS2なら持ってる。」 Is this なら a different one from the conditional なら? I don't understand the final half of the sentence and wish to.
2. I like to hear more about は as an emphasis particle for を, as well, if I may. Don't think I've heard of this usage.
ありがとう。