Use of aru in sentence

letslearn · 19 Jan 2014

Hi everyone,

In the following extract from a news report, they use 或る in describing a school meal that might contain the novo virus.
I was wondering if 或る in this case is translate as "some" or "certain".

It's saying that the Heath care center wants 14 schools refrigerators closed and have food sent to them to investigate wether or not it in contains the novo virus.

Should ある最近の給食 be "some recent meal" or "certain recent meal". Are they being general or is there a particular food they are concerned with?

保健所ほは１４の小学校の冷蔵庫にしまってある最近の給食を送ってもらって、ノロウイルスが入っていないかどうか調ることにしています。

Thanks

Toritoribe · 19 Jan 2014

Both are wrong. That's しまってある. Have you ever seen ～てある form?

letslearn · 19 Jan 2014

No I haven't. I will have to look it up.
Thanks.

letslearn · 19 Jan 2014

Oh I see the te aru means it was done by purpose.
Like
窓が空いている (the window is open)
窓が明けてある (the window has been opened)

So the refrigerators have be closed by the health department.

Toritoribe · 19 Jan 2014

There're typos; 開いている / 開けてある.

しまう can mean "to close" ony when the object is a store / shop / company or like that. It's "to store / keep" here.

しまう【仕舞う・終う】
2 〔保存する〕keep
通帳は金庫にしまっている
I keep my bankbook in the safe.

大切な思い出としてしまっておいた
He treasured it in his memory.

しまう【仕舞う】の英語・英訳 - 和英辞書 - goo辞書

Also, the subject of しまう is not the health center.

letslearn · 19 Jan 2014

So the they want the recent food which is stored / kept in the schools refrigerators to be sent for investigation.

Toritoribe · 19 Jan 2014

送ってもらう doesn't mean "to want to be sent". That's the only mistake left.

letslearn · 19 Jan 2014

Yeah they have requested.
Thanks for your help. I will keep my eye out for the te aru structure now.

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