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Tokyo Olympics & Paralympics 2021 Discussion Thread

What is your take: should the Tokyo Summer Olympics and Paralympics be held in 2021 or not?

  • Yes, they should go ahead as scheduled (July 2021).

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No, they should be cancelled for good.

    Votes: 10 83.3%

  • They should be held but scaled down.

    Votes: 2 16.7%
  • Total voters
    12
Mrs Lothor and I have noticed that the Olympics coverage on the TV has been less overblown and, well, obnoxious than in previous years. The TV has been on in the background, and there seems to be less obsessing with gold, and I don't think I've yet seen a medals table (even though Japan are currently top), a slow-motion medley of athletes having their moments of glory with stirring music in the background, or a huge room of people shrieking "Nippon! Nippon!". There is still virtually no coverage of big stories that don't involve Japanese people (Simone Biles' withdrawal from the gymnastic event) but the coverage seems to be less hysterical and more factual this time.
 
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I'm enjoying what little I see of them. I thought the skateboarding was interesting, and a good way to rejuvenate the Olympics, and there was a nice tempo to the overall event (but I really couldn't follow the scoring and the various tricks they were doing.).
Yes there are a lot of big names dropping out...Osaka Naomi is out now too Which in a way is good because it means some up-and-coming atheletes and countries have a chance to shine. It does get boring if it is just USA, China, Russia, and Japan dominating. Good to see the Tunisian guy coming from out of nowhere to win the Men's swimming event.
 
I don't know if anyone watched the women's road race on Sunday (almost no coverage in J-media, as only two Japanese cyclists participated), but that was a major shake-up of women's cycling: a Cambridge-educated mathematician and amateur athlete without a coach or team support blew away the pro teams from the Netherlands, Germany, and Italy. A story of 'David vs Goliath' proportions. I'm still in seventh heaven. The men's race on Saturday was a nail-biter, too, although those six hours tested my wife's patience.

I agree that the overall media coverage is unobtrusive and pleasantly slow, while Japanese athletes have been stunningly successful. It's a pity Mrs Osaka left without a medal; obviously, the pressure was too much. I need a few more Summer Olympics to get used to the discipline of skateboarding though.
 
Still, there seems to be an awful lot of coverage of Judo, skateboarding and swimming. And surfing. Basically any sport with Japan has a medal hopes. And many replays when they pull it off.

Skateboarding seems overly random. Seems like it belongs in the X Games more than the Olympics.

But compared to breakdancing (coming in Paris 2024) it seems like a "real" sport.
 
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Skateboarding also seemed fricking dangerous. I mean, downhill skiing and ski jumping, diving, etc are life-threatening as well, but skateboarding seemed to have a kind of immediate risk of really doing something horrible to your body.
(I'm sounding like my dad now).
 
Considering they are doing it on concrete without helmets I guess it's not as dangerous as it looks.
 
On the lighter side of the (Olympic) news: Israeli athletes finally found out how many people it takes to break the cardboard beds in the Olympic village. The answer is nine. It must be pretty boring to be confined to the Olympic Village.




Video of Israeli athletes breaking cardboard Olympic village bed goes viral - The Mainichi

TOKYO (Kyodo) -- A video of nine Israeli Olympians jumping on the so-called anti-sex bed in the athletes' village until it breaks has gone viral, Isra
mainichi.jp

The cardboard beds received a lot of media attention and were dubbed "anti-sex beds".

‘Anti-Sex’ Beds in the Olympic Village? A Social Media Theory Is Soon Debunked (Published 2021)

The coronavirus has forced a number of social distancing measures at the Summer Games, but the recyclable cardboard beds provided by organizers are not one of them.
www.nytimes.com
 
Two interesting pieces indirectly related to the Olympics:

Belarusian sprinter Kristina Timanovskaya seems to have asked for political asylum after she was removed from the Belarusian team and about to be sent home "forcefully". The media reported that she was "under the protection of the Japanese police".


Olympic Sprinter From Belarus Seeks Refuge in Japan, Fearing Jail at Home (Published 2021)

Belarus tried to force the sprinter, Kristina Timanovskaya, to return home after she criticized her coaches for registering her for the wrong event.
www.nytimes.com

And diverse Olympics: "harmony" instead of "inclusion". On the situation of Naomi Osaka and other Japanese athletes of "mixed-race".

 
"They will very politely spit in your face, wipe it off and say, 'So sorry about that." Very striking line from that article about mixed-race kids.
 
Lothor said:
"They will very politely spit in your face, wipe it off and say, 'So sorry about that." Very striking line from that article about mixed-race kids.
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Seems like hyperbole.

I wonder how common this is though:
It is common for public schools to require students to dye their hair jet black and straighten it to fit in with the Japanese ideal.
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Hyperbole or not, I've ended up feeling like that a few times in recent years.
 
The South Korean Olympic delegation was worried about the food safety of Fukushima produce and set up a food station for its athletes. The Japanese organizers, on the other hand, are worried about the potential negative image.


To a certain extent, I can understand their concerns. But this:

Japan also expressed concerns to South Korea about local media being critical of bouquets using flowers from Fukushima that are given to medalists at the Olympics, the sources said.
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Japan concerned over S Korea's Olympic food site

Japan has expressed concern to South Korea over its delegation's setup of its own food service at the Tokyo Olympics to prevent athletes from eating meals containing ingredients from Fukushima, home to the 2011 nuclear accident, Japanese government sources said Monday. Japan urged South Korea...
japantoday.com
 
The Olympics have officially ended. Has anyone watched the closing ceremony? I found it pretty underwhelming. I admit I will miss the sports events, but I am glad it's over.

Here are some press reviews:




Now the number crunching has started:

FOCUS: Olympics may lose favor with Japanese due to ballooning costs

As the costs of the just-ended Tokyo Olympics greatly overrun initial estimates amid the coronavirus pandemic, with Japanese taxpayers eventually expected to make up for the shortfall, the quadrennial sporting event may lose favor with the country's fans, experts say.
english.kyodonews.net


PM Suga's approval ratings are down to 28%:

With Olympics over, Suga faces uncertain future over COVID-19 response

Experts say the prime minister must now cling to hope that the country's vaccine drive will pay off in time to prevent a medical system collapse and salvage his future as Japan's leader.
www.japantimes.co.jp


And a blow against Japan's bureaucracy:

Japan wanted to showcase innovation. But these Olympics may be remembered for bureaucracy

Olympic visitors will likely remember not technological advances but the reams of paper forms, glitchy apps and rigid bureaucracy of Japan's anti-COVID measures.
www.latimes.com
 
I also found the closing ceremony not that special. But I thought the games themselves went about as well as they could have and I'm glad the athletes got their chance to compete.

Note to the world, if you ever have to set up an equestrian course, don't use daruma as they will scare the crap out of the horses.
Or maybe spin them around to face the other way...



Now on to Paris which will be the first Olympics where they don't force the host country to go bankrupt building new facilities.
 
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Note to the world, if you ever have to set up an equestrian course, don't use daruma as they will scare the crap out of the horses. Or maybe spin them around to face the other way...
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And this.



Olympics 2021: Equestrian jumpers say horses might spook at life-size sumo wrestler statue

Olympic riders say their horses might be scared of a statue of a sumo wrestler during competition. "As you come around, you see a big guy's [butt]," said a competitor from Great Britain.
www.espn.com
 
Yes, I too thought the games went as well as could be expected given the immense hurdles. The pandemic was beyond the control of the organizers. My understanding is that there would have been enormous financial penalties imposed had the games been cancelled - and I felt that this could have been handled better (if true). Or, at least it could have been made more transparent. Everyone was wondering why the games couldn't have been cancelled, and the lack of candor regarding this means that everyone starts rumor-mongering. I don't know who would have imposed the penalties, or if they could have been negotiated away, but you'd think an unprecedented global pandemic is sufficient "force majeure" to justify moderation of any penalties.
Anyway, it doesn't matter too much now. The games went off relatively smoothly, all things considered. Japanese atheletes got some well-deserved medals. Nobody died. One defection (how bizarre was that story??). And one runaway Ugandan athelete. I can't believe Sapporo wants to bid for a future winter Olympics, but there you go.
 
I also watched the closing ceremony in the company of Mrs Lothor and perhaps about 20 Brits on the British Expats in Japan Facebook page, and the consensus was that it was underwhelming with no real standout acts. There was some anticipation when a giant taiko was wheeled out but that performance was over too quickly, and I found that final scene with the women and children singing at the end rather drab with a feeling of The Sound of Music about it.

Regarding the LA Times article about how the Olympics will be remembered, it may have been a bureaucratic nightmare for those involved in the games but the number of people who experienced that was relatively small compared with the number of people worldwide who watched the games and were probably impressed that Japan managed to pull it off at all (whether they should have made the attempt is another thing). I chatted to my dad last night and he was full of praise for Japan's organisational skills in holding a relatively smoothly run games during a pandemic.
 
The Tokyo Olympics' Staggering Price Tag and Where It Stands in History
How the Tokyo Olympics Became the Most Expensive Summer Games Ever




How the Tokyo Olympics Became the Most Expensive Summer Games Ever
The Tokyo Games are on track to be the most expensive summer Olympics ever, with the pandemic adding to mounting economic losses. WSJ unpacks the


The Tokyo Olympics are set to be the most expensive Olympics on record. According to officials, the budget is $15.4 billion, but Japanese government auditors have said total spending tops $20 billion, almost three times the original forecast of around $7.4 billion when Tokyo put together its bid for the Olympics. That puts the Games $11.04 billion over the total cost of London's Olympics, the next most expensive ever.

The Olympic Games are one of the most expensive mega events any country can organize, according to a study on Olympics costs. The average sports-related cost of hosting the Olympics is $12 billion, with nonsports-related expenses typically several times that, the study found. In the case of the Tokyo Games, postponing the event added $2.8 billion to its final cost, according to the organizing committee.


Spending Spree


The single biggest cost of the Olympics has been the construction of venues. Eight venues were built specifically for the Games at a cost of around $3 billion. That includes the 68,000-seat National Stadium, completed in 2019, and two 15,000-seat arenas for swimming and volleyball. An additional 25 venues were renovated.
 
Yesterday, the Paralympics were officially inaugurated - in an empty National Stadium. Has anyone seen the opening ceremony? We missed it this time.

Some photos from the ceremony are in the feature below:

In Photos: Tokyo Paralympic opening ceremony commences with fireworks, dance - The Mainichi

The
mainichi.jp


 
I watched some of it, and it was quite heartening the way diversity and difference were promoted. If only Japan was like that in real life (and I'm not even referring to people with disabilities!).
 
Good news for the taxpayer: the Tokyo Olympics and Paralympics' total cost was at least 150 billion JPY (1.3 billion USD) less than expected, as the games were mostly held without spectators, helping to cut labour costs and other expenses.


Tokyo Olympics cost less than budgeted, need for extra money unlikely - The Mainichi

TOKYO (Kyodo) -- The total cost of the Tokyo Olympics and Paralympics was at least 150 billion yen ($1.3 billion) less than expected as the games were
mainichi.jp
 
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