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Damicci · 15 Mar 2005

Ok got some help from my friend he says いない Is the better form to use when specifying "movent within a specific time."

そして
一週間以内に私は日本へ行きます。

But I need help with something else.
まちきれない I don't understand this conjugation.
My friend says it is best to say "I can't wait to go to Japan：私は日本に行くのが待ちきれない。

Please help as I don't understand this conjugation.
Well now I do a little. Inability to help wanting to do something
Ex. Can't help wanting to eat: 食べたくてしょうがない

Is there a place to Ican learn more about this?

bentenmusume · 15 Mar 2005

Damicci said:
But I need help with something else.
まちきれない I don't understand this conjugation.
My friend says it is best to say "I can't wait to go to Japan：私は日本に行くのが待ちきれない。

V-stem + き（切）る in this case means to do something entirely or completely. きれない is the negative potential (cannot do) form of this, giving the whole phrase the literal meaning of "(I) can't do [X] completely/entirely/enough."

For example, 「量が多くて食べきれなかった」 would be "There was so much that I couldn't eat it all."

「待ちきれない」 is a bit more idiomatic, since we don't generally think of waiting for something "completely", but the notion is that you're looking forward to something _so_ much that you wait and wait, but through no amount of waiting can you contain your eager anticipation (or something along those lines.)

Damicci said:
Well now I do a little. Inability to help wanting to do something
Ex. Can't help wanting to eat: 食べたくてしょうがない

Hmm... you realize that this second construction isn't the same as the V-きれない one above, right? You seem to have a good basic understanding of what it means, though.

Leroy_Brown · 15 Mar 2005

Damicci said:
Ok got some help from my friend he says いない Is the better form to use when specifying "movent within a specific time."

そして一週間以内に私は日本へ行きます。

But I need help with something else.
まちきれない I don't understand this conjugation.
My friend says it is best to say "I can't wait to go to Japan：私は日本に行くのが待ちきれない。

Please help as I don't understand this conjugation.
Well now I do a little. Inability to help wanting to do something
Ex. Can't help wanting to eat: 食べたくてしょうがない

そして一週間以内に私は日本へ行きます。

Yep. That's "within one week"

まちきれない I don't understand this conjugation.
My friend says it is best to say "I can't wait to go to Japan：私は日本に行くのが待ちきれない。

To wait is "matsu", and "can't wait" is "matenai"

But "machikiru" is more like "to endure the wait"

Damicci · 15 Mar 2005

Ok but with the added ni particle in "within one week"
My brain is slowly exploding in small bits

Leroy_Brown · 15 Mar 2005

Damicci said:
Ok but with the added ni particle in "within one week"
My brain is slowly exploding in small bits

Look at it this way:

To say "Kare wa ashita kimasu" would be an answer to "When is he coming?"

"Kare wa ashita ni kimasu" is a response to "Which day is he coming." "Ni" puts the emphasis on the "ashita."

Elizabeth · 15 Mar 2005

But I need help with something else.
まちきれない I don't understand this conjugation.
My friend says it is best to say "I can't wait to go to Japan：私は日本に行くのが待ちきれない。

日本に行くのが待ち遠しいです（まちどおしい） is also good for 'can't wait' or 'impatient for' 'can hardly wait.' Of course there's always some variation on 楽しみにしていす, but that sounds a little less enthusiastic.

東京はどうしても捨てがたいなあ。 Tokyo is impossible to miss. Please don't change your mind now !

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Damicci · 15 Mar 2005

Yeah a bit advanced for my level, he told me it was probably too much for me to comprehend right now. So I will let it die. I just think about things I want to say in english and try to translate them to the best of my ability. Unfortunately my knowledge is limited to where my sentences are more advanced than I perceive them to be. I need to take a damn class already. Nothing like being quizzed on this stuff to make it stick.

Elizabeth · 15 Mar 2005

Leroy_Brown said:
Look at it this way:

To say "Kare wa ashita kimasu" would be an answer to "When is he coming?"

"Kare wa ashita ni kimasu" is a response to "Which day is he coming." "Ni" puts the emphasis on the "ashita."

I think ni also translates to "Kyou ni kuru," or coming today, I usually just leave it as "Kyou juu ni XXX" (sometime later today).

Elizabeth · 15 Mar 2005

Damicci said:
Yeah a bit advanced for my level, he told me it was probably too much for me to comprehend right now. So I will let it die. I just think about things I want to say in english and try to translate them to the best of my ability. Unfortunately my knowledge is limited to where my sentences are more advanced than I perceive them to be. I need to take a damn class already. Nothing like being quizzed on this stuff to make it stick.

Damicci, Once you're actually there of course the critical factors will be speaking well enough to ask questions and understanding enough to follow the answers/misinterpretations/corrections. I would spend a lot of preparation time on practical phrases and dialogues first to get through the airports, hotel check in, eating out, etc depending on how much you actually feel comfortable using it in non-emergency situations. Anyone can get by with just a little English after all.

日本の旅行の準備（じゅんび）はしていますか？今回は東京だけに行く予定ですか？
旅行の予定など、時間があるときに教えてくださいね。

orochi · 15 Mar 2005

一週間以内に私は日本へ行きます。

You know that this doesn't mean that you'll be in Japan for a week (or less), though, right? It means that you'll be leaving for Japan within the week.

Damicci · 15 Mar 2005

はい日本の旅行の準備はしています。今回は東京とか大阪とか広島へ行きたいと思います。
私の彼女はおんせんへ行きたい。私はいろは坂を見たいもペンフレンドに会いたい。
そして私達はいろいろところへ行きたい。本当予定がありません。（We don't have a "real schedule")
たぶん東京のちかくに歩きます。

Damicci · 15 Mar 2005

orochi said:
You know that this doesn't mean that you'll be in Japan for a week (or less), though, right? It means that you'll be leaving for Japan within the week.

はいわかっと。

orochi · 15 Mar 2005

Cool, just checking.

Index · 15 Mar 2005

オロチのアヴァタールを見るとおにぎりを食べたくなってくるんだよ。

Hiroyuki Nagashima · 15 Mar 2005

あははははったしかに美味しそうなおにぎりですね。

天気予報では１８日の東京の天気は曇りです。
最高気温は16℃、最低気温は１２℃です。
１９日から３日間の天気予報は、晴れです。
新宿都庁の展望台から富士山が見えるかもしれませんね。

日本への旅、こころよりお待ち申し上げます。

Elizabeth · 16 Mar 2005

Damicci said:
はい日本の旅行の準備はしています。今回は東京とか大阪とか広島へ行きたいと思います。
私の彼女はおんせんへ行きたい。私はいろは坂を見たいもペンフレンドに会いたい。
そして私達はいろいろところへ行きたい。本当予定がありません。（We don't have a "real schedule")
たぶん東京のちかくに歩きます。

私も旅行の準備はまだぜんぜんしていません。詳しい（くわしい）予定もないんですよ。

水泳も温泉も大好きですが、残念ながら、温泉では普通、泳ぐことはできませんね。

Leroy_Brown · 16 Mar 2005

Damicci said:
はい日本の旅行の準備はしています。今回は東京とか大阪とか広島へ行きたいと思います。
私の彼女はおんせんへ行きたい。私はいろは坂を見たいもペンフレンドに会いたい。
そして私達はいろいろところへ行きたい。本当予定がありません。（We don't have a "real schedule")
たぶん東京のちかくに歩きます。

しています = you're still in the process of doing. Then better to say "準備をしています" If you're done preparing, "準備はdekiています."

私はいろは坂を見たいもペンフレンドに会いたい。= you used "も" to mean "and" but in this case, use "soreto" or "sorekara"

そして私達はいろいろところへ行きたい = don't forget to put the "na" in there:
そして私達はいろいろna ところへ行きたい

本当予定がありません = 本当 means more like "truthful". If you want to say you don't have definite plans, "Hakkiri to shita 予定 wa ありません."

たぶん東京のちかくに歩きます =

東京のちかくに歩きます Should be を instead of に if you saying you want to walk around Tokyo. With に you're saying you're walking towards Tokyo. A more common way of saying "casually walking around" is "sanpo shimasu" (take a walk) or "bura bura shimasu" (literally meaning "swinging around" but means walk or hang around in). Or you could say "aruki mawarimasu" (literally "walk around").

Good Job!

Hope that helps!

Damicci · 16 Mar 2005

Elizabeth said:
私も旅行の準備はまだぜんぜんしていません。詳しい（くわしい）予定もないんですよ。

水泳も温泉も大好きですが、残念ながら、温泉では普通、泳ぐことはできませんね。

そうですね

温泉はたぶんきもちいいですね。温泉の水がとてもあついと思いますか？あつい水少しが好きじゃない。

日本の車も見たい。たぶん少しパーチをします。すこし酒を飲ます。

Hiroyuki Nagashima · 16 Mar 2005

Damicci said:
そうですね

温泉はたぶんきもちいいですね。温泉の水がとてもあついと思いますか？あつい水少しが好きじゃない。

日本の車も見たい。たぶん少しパーチをします。すこし酒を飲ます。

お台場のパレットタウンにはトヨタの車が展示されています。
是非見に行ってください。
パレットタウン – パレットタウン・ガイド

HONDAは青山１丁目で展示しています。
Honda ウエルカムプラザ青山｜東京・青山のHonda製品ショールーム、イベントスペース

Elizabeth · 18 Mar 2005

Damicci said:
そうですね

温泉はたぶんきもちいいですね。温泉の水がとてもあついと思いますか？あつい水少しが好きじゃない。

日本の車も見たい。たぶん少しパーチをします。すこし酒を飲ます。

それぞれの温泉は違うのですね。でも一般的に水温を
３９（１０２）－４１（１０５）C に設定されると思います。
シャワーより少しだけ熱いですよ。

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