Some confusion over humble expressions and extra-modest

So, I get the whole humble/extra-modest thing. I think. Vaguely.

I understand there are set ways of saying extra-modest phrases - i.e. 行くand来るgo to 参る。
I also understand that, with some CERTAIN verbs, you can use o + stem + suru to create a humble verb. So for example, I know とる can be changed to おとりします。This is the given example under the question ''Change each verb into an approrpriate form as the examples show'', so I assume his is correct anyway!

So, assuming I have to translate もつ, I think would this change to uh いただく？

The question also asks me to translate きる into an 'appropriate' form. Here's where I'm confused. Would this require me to put kiru into 参る？ Would this require me to put kiru into おきします？ I don't understand to what degree a humble form is separate from an extra-modest expression in this sense.

In the same way, if I was ask to translate a word into humble/an approrpriate form to the example would I be expected to translate たべる into いただく or into おたべします？

Thanks for reading!

My confusion is that my text book separates extra-modest expressions and humble expressions. Yet it doesn't say whether I can eexchange them. For example, are ukagau (humble) and mairu ((extra-modest) essentially inexchangable? Can I use them both when speaking to someone?

bluetit said:

So, assuming I have to translate もつ, I think would this change to uh いただく？

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いただく can't be a humble expression of もつ(持つ).

bluetit said:

The question also asks me to translate きる into an 'appropriate' form. Here's where I'm confused. Would this require me to put kiru into 参る？ Would this require me to put kiru into おきします？

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Probably you are talking about 来る. That's くる, not きる. A humble form "お + -masu stem + する" can't be used with 来る. 参る is used instead.

bluetit said:

In the same way, if I was ask to translate a word into humble/an approrpriate form to the example would I be expected to translate たべる into いただく or into おたべします？

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お食べします is used in a context "I eat it instead of you", not as a usual humble expression of 食べる. I don't think it's actually used, though.

bluetit said:

My confusion is that my text book separates extra-modest expressions and humble expressions. Yet it doesn't say whether I can eexchange them. For example, are ukagau (humble) and mairu ((extra-modest) essentially inexchangable? Can I use them both when speaking to someone?

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See the following post.

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"An extra-modest expression" would refer to this 丁寧語 usage in the post linked above. So, the answer to your question is "No. They are not always interchangeable", since うかがう doesn't have this 丁寧語 usage.