Restaurant

Tomii515 · 23 Mar 2008

When you order at a restaurant, do you just say like

blah blah o kudasai

or

blah blah o onegai shimasu

??

My dad wants me to order my food in Japaneswe the next time I go to a Japanese retsaurant, and I just dont wanna embariss myself xD

---

What is usually order, is like either yaki udon with chicken and instead of the salade, i get two miso soups.

or

I get a bentou box with sushi and whatever else there is to choose from..

So, I was wondering, whta I should say.

---

Like if I wanted to say:

I would like to get a bento box with the the sushi and chicken teriyaki, and instead of the green salad (or whatever it's called), can you get another miso soup.

or something XD i dont know. I'm jst really confused when trying to ask to switch the salad for the soup, because i dont really liek the salad and i love miso soup >< lol

yeah....

(btw: how would you say the food words in Japanese? Such as chicken teriyaki, miso soup, yaki udon w/ chicken, green salad

all i know is miso soup = miso shiru
and bento box is like "obentou" or "bentou", right?

so woulddd

chicken teriyaki = toriniku teriyaki???

idk im just guessing)

Thanks to whomever helps ^^

Elizabeth · 23 Mar 2008

Tomii515 said:
When you order at a restaurant, do you just say like
blah blah o kudasai
or
blah blah o onegai shimasu
??
My dad wants me to order my food in Japaneswe the next time I go to a Japanese retsaurant, and I just dont wanna embariss myself xD
---
What is usually order, is like either yaki udon with chicken and instead of the salade, i get two miso soups.
or
I get a bentou box with sushi and whatever else there is to choose from..
So, I was wondering, whta I should say.
---
Like if I wanted to say:
I would like to get a bento box with the the sushi and chicken teriyaki, and instead of the green salad (or whatever it's called), can you get another miso soup.
or something XD i dont know. I'm jst really confused when trying to ask to switch the salad for the soup, because i dont really liek the salad and i love miso soup >< lol
yeah....
(btw: how would you say the food words in Japanese? Such as chicken teriyaki, miso soup, yaki udon w/ chicken, green salad
all i know is miso soup = miso shiru
and bento box is like "obentou" or "bentou", right?
so woulddd
chicken teriyaki = toriniku teriyaki???
idk im just guessing)
Thanks to whomever helps ^^

I would like to get a bento box with the the sushi and chicken teriyaki

Sushi to toriniku teriyaki no obentou onegaishimasu.

and instead of the green salad (or whatever it's called), can you get another miso soup.

Miso shiru wo Sarada no kawari ni moraemasuka?

Haruspex · 23 Mar 2008

Tomii515 said:
My dad wants me to order my food in Japaneswe the next time I go to a Japanese retsaurant, and I just dont wanna embariss myself xD

Wow, you have my admiration. Rather daring.

Toritoribe · 23 Mar 2008

Tomii515 said:
how would you say the food words in Japanese? Such as chicken teriyaki, miso soup, yaki udon w/ chicken, green salad

chicken teriyaki: 照り焼きチキン/鶏(肉)の照り焼き *鶏(reading; とり)
yaki udon w/ chicken: 鶏肉入り焼きうどん
green salad: (グリーン)サラダ

野菜は身体にいいですよ。要らぬおせっかいだけど

Elizabeth · 23 Mar 2008

Tomii515 said:
When you order at a restaurant, do you just say like
blah blah o kudasai
or
blah blah o onegai shimasu
??

「何々にします」も普通の日本語です。

My dad wants me to order my food in Japaneswe the next time I go to a Japanese retsaurant, and I just dont wanna embariss myself xD

やってみるまではできるかどうかわからないね。
あらゆるチャンスを利用して勉強するしかないですね。お父さんにいってください。

(Never know until ya try, your dad isn't going to know what's going on anyway...) :bikkuri:

Tomii515 · 24 Mar 2008

Thank you all for all your help!!
Hopefully I'll be able to use it soon ><
I'm going to be scared, but hopefully I'll actually do it and not make an idiot out of myself XD

haha

Elizabeth

Thank you so much! So, what the lierally, or as close as I can get it to, mean is:

-I would like the bento box with sushi and teriyaki, please. (btw: in this sentence, is the 'no' used as "with" the bento?)
-Sushi to toriniku teriyaki no obentou onegaishimasu.

-Can I take Miso soup as the salad's alternative? (or something like this XD)
-Miso shiru wo Sarada no kawari ni moraemasuka?

?? :]

and "naninani" means like "blah blah/such and such, etc"??

Toritoribe

Thank for the translations!

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Anyways, so say the lady's like "what would you like?" and my dad will be like "Ohh, hne's learning Japanese and he wants to order in Japanese, can he?" then she'd either not understand what he's saying, or say "oh ok" lol xD

So, like sayyy I wanted to get yaki udon that day. I'd say something like.

"toriniku iri yaki udon o onegai shimasu. miso shiru o sarada no kawari ni moraemasu ka?"

andd if i want bento with those two things (there are other choices , so ill just put "naninani" in the place, since im guessing that means blahblah or such and such for what Elizabeth saidd:

"naninani to naninani no obentou o onegai shimasu. miso shiru o sarada no kawari ni moraemasu ka?"

Or something liek that??

Thanks~~~~~~

Elizabeth · 24 Mar 2008

Tomii515 said:
Thank you all for all your help!!
Hopefully I'll be able to use it soon ><
I'm going to be scared, but hopefully I'll actually do it and not make an idiot out of myself XD
haha
Elizabeth
Thank you so much! So, what the lierally, or as close as I can get it to, mean is:
-I would like the bento box with sushi and teriyaki, please. (btw: in this sentence, is the 'no' used as "with" the bento?)
-Sushi to toriniku teriyaki no obentou onegaishimasu.

Hountou ?? Ooops, maybe I misunderstood then. I thought teriyaku with sushi was the KIND of obentou you wanted (I just hadn't heard of that one yet). But separately ?? Watch out, don't get carried away just for practice or this is going to be a super sized dinner. Can you try listing them all yourself first ?

And btw, what I said earlier was OK, except for one part. I forgot the "no" after niwatori (toriniku)...but anyway that is kind of not a very good or maybe slightly awkward way. Like toritoribe suggested, see if they don't understand 照り焼きチキン better to begin with. Finally don't lose your nerve, the Chinese translation is 鶏串 if all else gets a blank stare...

kyubisharingan · 24 Mar 2008

haha, times like those i really wonder if the "Japanese" resturants are really "JAPANESE" resturants XD. I had a time like that before, i went to a "japanese" resturant......so i actually started speaking japanese to the waitress...and guess what....she wasnt japanese, she was chinese, so she didnt understand anything i said. Thats what i hate about these wanna-be japanese resturants.....they looking japanese, but they arent

haha...srry that had nothing to do with the topic..gomen

Tomii515 · 24 Mar 2008

Elizabeth said:
Hountou ?? Ooops, maybe I misunderstood then. I thought teriyaku with sushi was the KIND of obentou you wanted (I just hadn't heard of that one yet). But separately ?? Watch out, don't get carried away just for practice or this is going to be a super sized dinner. Can you try listing them all yourself first ?

Well, like. At this one place I go, (which btw is, in fact, a japanese-chinese resaturant, and i thinka ll the people there are chinese) they have different types of bentos. Like, there's "chicken teriyaki bento", "shrimp something bento" etc. But, at the japanese-only restaurant i like more (which im pretty sure the people are japanese. i didnt htink they looked chinese and im pretty sure i heard them speaking japanese, or atleast it didnt sound like chinese xD) has the bento, but there about maybe 10 choices to go WITH the bento, or in it, i guess. For example, it automatically comes with like miso soup, green salad, rice, these 2 fish ball thingys, raddish and an orange, and then a choice of 2 things off the choice thingys to go with it. Usually I'd get the sushi and the chicken teriyaki. All i know is that theres sushi, chicken teriyaki, i think shirmp or shrimp something, and yakitori. But there's more choices, i just cant remember. ive only been there once

But, since it sounds a bit awkward, and since it's this situation, what shoud i say?

O_O

kyubisharingan said:
haha, times like those i really wonder if the "Japanese" resturants are really "JAPANESE" resturants XD. I had a time like that before, i went to a "japanese" resturant......so i actually started speaking japanese to the waitress...and guess what....she wasnt japanese, she was chinese, so she didnt understand anything i said. Thats what i hate about these wanna-be japanese resturants.....they looking japanese, but they arent
haha...srry that had nothing to do with the topic..gomen

LMAO!
hahaha.
What did they say when you were done speaking japanese? were they like:
O__O I'm not japanese lmao

Toritoribe · 24 Mar 2008

Tomii515 said:
what shoud i say?

弁当を、寿司と照り焼きチキンでお願いします。

SushiShin · 24 Mar 2008

Restaurant sentences

Other useful sentences for going to a restaurant:

We'd like a table by the window.
Mado-giwa no teeburu wo onegai shimasu

Can you recommend some dishes?
Osusume no ryouri wa nan desu ka?

I'll have this, please.
Kono ryouri wo kudasai.

Damicci · 24 Mar 2008

One thing I would note is, make sure it's ok to order in Japanese first, your server may not speak Japanese or at 1st will not recognize you are speaking Japanese and could make the situation awkward.

"Is it ok if try to order in Japanese? I am studying Japanese and would like to practice."

Usually they'll be happy to take your order after that point in Japanese.

Toritoribe · 25 Mar 2008

Tomii515 said:
... My dad wants me to order my food in Japaneswe the next time I go to a Japanese retsaurant, and I just dont wanna embariss myself xD...

Tomii515 said:
... so say the lady's like "what would you like?" and my dad will be like "Ohh, hne's learning Japanese and he wants to order in Japanese, can he?" then she'd either not understand what he's saying, or say "oh ok" lol xD...

Tomii515 said:
... at the japanese-only restaurant i like more (which im pretty sure the people are japanese. i didnt htink they looked chinese and im pretty sure i heard them speaking japanese, or atleast it didnt sound like chinese xD) has the bento...

So I think Tomii just wants to know how to order on that situation...

Tomii515 · 25 Mar 2008

Damicci said:
One thing I would note is, make sure it's ok to order in Japanese first, your server may not speak Japanese or at 1st will not recognize you are speaking Japanese and could make the situation awkward.

"Is it ok if try to order in Japanese? I am studying Japanese and would like to practice."

Usually they'll be happy to take your order after that point in Japanese.

I'm too shy to just randomly speak Japanese. I wouldn't even bring it up. lol. My dad told me the next time we go to a Japanese restaurant, he's gunna tell them I'm learning and want to order my food in Japanese (which i guess is good, but id probably mess something up).

Tomii515 · 25 Mar 2008

Toritoribe said:
弁当を、寿司と照り焼きチキンでお願いします。

Ok, thanks!

should I use "bentou" or "obentou"?

And are you sure I should use teriyaki chikin instead of toriniku no teriyaki or w/e?

But, anyways, that sentence makes sence to me, so I don't really have yto ask any questions.

The 'de' before onegaishimasu is used as 'with', right? like 'with sushi and chicken teriyaki' also like 'hashi de' 'with chopsticks' or whatever? xD

Oh. Also, why would you use 'o' after 'bentou', and not 'wa' or 'ga'?

Thanks~~

-Tommy

p.s. ohh. I want to know like. Is there two ways to say chopsticks? The chopsticks at the Japanese places I go to say 'otemoto' and I thought chopsticks were 'hashi'? Ohh wait... I just looked them up, and it says 'otemoto' is usually just written on the paper, right? xD Blahh`

nice gaijin · 25 Mar 2008

should I use "bentou" or "obentou"?

The meaning is the same; obentou is just bikago, a dressed up version of bentou to make it sound nicer. I'd say it's unnecessary.

And are you sure I should use teriyaki chikin instead of toriniku no teriyaki or w/e?

I'd go with teriyaki chikin. Toriniku no teriyaki sounds like you're trying too hard to use the Japanese word when there's an acceptable and widespread alternative.

The 'de' before onegaishimasu is used as 'with', right? like 'with sushi and chicken teriyaki' also like 'hashi de' 'with chopsticks' or whatever? xD

Again, you would be better off not trying to equate particles with English words.

Oh. Also, why would you use 'o' after 'bentou', and not 'wa' or 'ga'?

because the verb you are using, onegaishimasu (negau) or kudasai (kureru) are direct-object verbs; the items you request are the direct objects, and call for the 'wo' particle.

p.s. ohh. I want to know like. Is there two ways to say chopsticks? The chopsticks at the Japanese places I go to say 'otemoto' and I thought chopsticks were 'hashi'? Ohh wait... I just looked them up, and it says 'otemoto' is usually just written on the paper, right? xD Blahh`

I've never heard anyone refer to them as otemoto, but it's commonly written on the paper and does mean chopsticks. Specifically, the wooden chopsticks that you split apart to use are called "waribashi."

Elizabeth · 25 Mar 2008

Tomii515 said:
Ok, thanks!
should I use "bentou" or "obentou"?
And are you sure I should use teriyaki chikin instead of toriniku no teriyaki or w/e?
But, anyways, that sentence makes sence to me, so I don't really have yto ask any questions.
The 'de' before onegaishimasu is used as 'with', right? like 'with sushi and chicken teriyaki' also like 'hashi de' 'with chopsticks' or whatever? xD

"XXX de onegaishimasu" could be "by" or "in" or "with" or nothing that makes sense in translation...
I would ask for chopsticks after everyone is done ordering or it may give the impression you want them in the food. (Ohashi wo kudasai).
Also to order for yourself only : Watashi ni wa....
For the entire group : Minna ni...

Oh. Also, why would you use 'o' after 'bentou', and not 'wa' or 'ga'?
Thanks~~

Don't sweat it if you forget the "o" or something trivial like that, especially with "onegaishimasu" it is actually left out a lot. And it's terrible, but so many native speakers don't even add お願いします or ください even though the wait staff has to speak very politely to them -- lots of なさいますか？ございません。 etc.

Toritoribe · 26 Mar 2008

Tomii515 said:
I want to know like. Is there two ways to say chopsticks? The chopsticks at the Japanese places I go to say 'otemoto' and I thought chopsticks were 'hashi'? Ohh wait... I just looked them up, and it says 'otemoto' is usually just written on the paper, right? xD Blahh`

おてもと is from 手元箸(; temoto-bashi), which is an opposite to 取り箸(; tori-bashi). In "proper" Japanese cuisine, tori-bashi is served with such like "large plate dish" to dish out to each one's plate, just like a bowl of salad with a serving spoon and fork.
So otemoto means "(chopsticks) at hand (for personal use)".

Elizabeth · 26 Mar 2008

Toritoribe said:
おてもと is from 手元箸(; temoto-bashi), which is an opposite to 取り箸(; tori-bashi). In "proper" Japanese cuisine, tori-bashi is served with such like "large plate dish" to dish out to each one's plate, just like a bowl of salad with a serving spoon and fork.
So otemoto means "(chopsticks) at hand (for personal use)".

面白いですね。とりとりべさん、説明してくれてありがとうございます。

多分、「おてもと」などは、硬い感じでかしこまった言い方をしたいときは使いますが

お客が、ウェイターに、「お箸はありますか？」などはよくつかわれると思います。。。

とにかく、よく、「おてもと」は、高級なレストランなどで働いているウェイターが使いそうな言葉ですね。

外人が「です・ます」型で話せれば、文句はないくらいだと思いますけれども。。。

Toritoribe · 26 Mar 2008

実は僕も知らなくて調べました。
なんで「おてもと」って言うんだろうなんて、ここで聞かれるまで考えたこともなかったですから。
取り箸がない場合、お年寄りとかはよく自分の箸の反対側(口をつけていないほう、割り箸の元々くっついていた側) で取り分けたりしますね。自分が口をつけた箸で、他の人も食べる料理を触らないというマナーなんでしょうね。

お店では普通に「お箸下さい」のほうが自然ですね。

Tomii515 · 26 Mar 2008

どうもありがとう !
thanks to all that helped!
I don't really wanna type muxhvcausebim using mynipod touchband its annoying typing on theblittle buttons.
thanks though~

Elizabeth · 26 Mar 2008

Toritoribe said:
お店では普通に「お箸下さい」のほうが自然ですね。

そうですね。

アメリカで、自分のテーブルには、コップかフォークかナプキンなどがいくつかなかった場合は、

注文の後。。。ウェイターに。。。それから、何々をいただけますか、それから、何々を持ってきてくださいますか？
それから、何々何も。ここには何々何がないようだから。というように頼むのが自然ですね。

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