Popularity of Jrock in Europe/Western World - Up to us, or them?

drain_away · 27 Nov 2005

Ashe_chan: hmm, i don't know. all i can say is that i'm really jealous because we have none of that in America. i wouldn't go as far as to say i DON'T want it...and i also wouldn't go as far as to say that VK/Jrock would become mainstream in my own country...it isn't even mainstream in it's OWN country, let alone foreign ones. mind you, i cannot speak for Germany as i am not from there, but i believe that Jrock and VK are underground by nature, and therefore probably never be in the fore-front in ANY country. i personally am glad that Jrock is spreading. i am glad for the bands because they are doing what they love and we, the fans are supporting them. it's very good for THEM to have so many fans overseas. it can only help them become greater. it can also make there music more readily available to foreign fans which is GREAT, i think.

really though...like i said, i don't think Jrock and VK will ever be mainstream anywhere (yay! ) so i don't think you need to worry. of course, like i said, i don't know about Germany, so it might be different, but that's what i think.

ah, welcome to the forum, by the way.

Kinsao · 27 Nov 2005

Mycernius said:
Just a quick word. I noticed that some of you will buy your CDs from amazon.com or .co.uk. These, of course, are at a higher price because of import duties and the rarity of getting them. I have found the easist way is to order direct from amazon.co.jp. The CDs are cheaper and with the post paid on them it is usually about the same price or even slightly cheaper than going through .com or .co.uk sites. As amazon use a standard set up on their sites the Japanese site is fairly easy to navigate even if you do not speak japanese and some pages have the option to translate into English. Just one word of warning, only order one CD at any time or you could get hit with import duties in your own country because of the cost. Got caught with this once I know this might only be an option open to the older fans, as you need a debit or credit card to do this.

Thanks for the tips, Mycernius!

Ashe_chan · 27 Nov 2005

i hope so.... well.... but if it will become like that... I think i will be proud to be one the first fans who loves VK, not because of its getting mainstream and all people can see this in TV.... and i think i will hate the newbiews xD *baka desu* ayee....gomen for my english... :sorry:

hihi... thanks ^-^ this site is pretty cool

Mycernius · 27 Nov 2005

hebiichigo said:
Really? I've ordered multiple CDs many times, and I don't think that's ever happened to me.. ☝

Probably a UK thing. With our current government it is a case of if it can be taxed, tax it. I hate labour

.::b|ue Ash::. · 28 Nov 2005

I'll tell you a little something about this situation.

Nothing happens unless the bands promotional team decides it will. Lack of good and proper promotion is the quickest way to kill any band, it's a form of sabotage.
The only thing we can do is offer the music to other people, and make websites. But even that will make little impact.

The bands are not going to come here unless there's a big audience, it simply won't be worth it. I think a few of them might have done very small select shows for fan clubs, and that's how a lot of bands start.
But once again that goes back to if their label thinks it's worth it or not.
The promotional materials, travel, bookings, they are all very expensive.

In short you can make a difference to get them noticed, it will just be exceptionally hard and all your efforts may not be as rewarding as you had hoped.

Riyko · 28 Nov 2005

I don't know anyone around me that likes Jrock, but it doesn't really bother me none of my friends here even like the same things as me. Anyways, the first band I've listened to was X-Japan and that was back in 1986, my parents would put their tape on for me every single night to get me to sleep, but later on I got into La:Sadies and then Dir en grey. Anyways, I get all of my cd's for free because my aunt buys them and sends them to me.

Kinsao · 28 Nov 2005

wow cool! Wish I had an aunt who could do that...

daemonette · 28 Nov 2005

i wish i had an aunt like that too that sends me pretty asians thats ****** awsome o.o

Ashe_chan · 29 Nov 2005

waaiiii meeee waaant thaaat toooooo!!! xD but i would be more glad if i would have a japanese boyfriend or a female penfriend

Kinsao · 29 Nov 2005

Be warned, though - not all Japanese boyfriends are worth having.

lastmagi · 29 Nov 2005

True. Isn't Japanese society fairly patriarchal and wanting in terms of equal rights for all its members?

Ashe_chan · 29 Nov 2005

they're very shy aren't they?!
buuuut sooo cute!!!

Kinsao · 29 Nov 2005

lol! My (Japanese) ex is neither patriarchal nor shy. Tis just... well, Japanese guys are no more perfect than men of any other nationality, is all. ;-)

advigilo · 29 Nov 2005

i agree

but people from other country's/cultures
can be more attractive than youre own ;-)

.::b|ue Ash::. · 29 Nov 2005

I wouldn't really know about japanese boyfriends, all asians seem to avoid me like the plague o____o

Ashe_chan · 1 Dec 2005

haihai... but not every japanese boy is like yours, isn't it?! Maybe i'll find a nice one... xD~ *dream*
I think they looke better than the boys around me...

Yokan · 4 Dec 2005

I would have loved to have a Japanese Girlfriend, or at least an Asian/Chinese one. They seem more attractive. Although, As most of you know, i have my hands full in a 9 month relationship(so far!) at the minute!

Yokan · 4 Dec 2005

but attractive-ness doesn't make a persons personality different, take that into consideration.

lost · 4 Dec 2005

Riyko said:
I don't know anyone around me that likes Jrock, but it doesn't really bother me none of my friends here even like the same things as me. Anyways, the first band I've listened to was X-Japan and that was back in 1986, my parents would put their tape on for me every single night to get me to sleep, but later on I got into La:Sadies and then Dir en grey. Anyways, I get all of my cd's for free because my aunt buys them and sends them to me.

me too! i dunno anyone who likes jrock cept for my sister. sometimes it sucks cause i can't share things wit anyone cept for her but sometimes it's great because no one is here to fight wit me for favorites...hehehe...
most of my friends dun like jrockers esp the visual kei ones and i hate cause they insult them and it makes me wanna beat my friends up sooo badly! AHHH!!!!! Riyku...you so lucky! i wished i had someone that nice to me!

looks can't make a person's personality different but you gotta admit it...looks does make you look at a person different.

Ashe_chan · 4 Dec 2005

I know i know....

Kinsao · 5 Dec 2005

Yeah, but it's also true that not all Japanese boys (and girls for that matter!) are better looking than all European ones... It just depends who you find.

Ashe_chan · 6 Dec 2005

hm...sounds like we're talking about 'love at first sight' xD ( i hope it's right so... ^^''')
...:? we're getting off the topic, aren't we??? xD~

Yokan · 6 Dec 2005

haha, very true! *thinks more about topic XD*

Ashe_chan · 7 Dec 2005

^^ ehmm...what was the topic? xD
ahhh yes... i've seen a Hyde album 666 in a normal store!!! hihi...I hid the album so nobody can buy it xDDD

advigilo · 7 Dec 2005

Ashe_chan said:
^^ ehmm...what was the topic? xD
ahhh yes... i've seen a Hyde album 666 in a normal store!!! hihi...I hid the album so nobody can buy it xDDD

OMG LOL
i do that like all the time in the libary when i forgot my
pass for like the .... time again
And then even when i wont go to the libary for a week or so,
the book will still be on the same spot .
Finding youre book back is another thing tough....

And in a normal store???
LUcky Lucky you are....
what was the price? Cause most of the time its very expensive :-(

YOURE store is COOL

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