Negative reputation

thomas · 17 Dec 2005

Dear Members,

I would like to inform you that I have disabled the ability to give negative reputation. This step affects all usergroups and is effective as of now.

While I understand that the reputation system as a whole seems to be quite popular I believe that negative reputation has no positive effect on the community and the quality of the forum. It has, in fact, too often resulted in conflict and misunderstanding in the past and has not led "ill-reputed" members to behave more "appropriately". Furthermore, I am convinced that the old saying "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" also holds true for the Japan Forum.

Thanks for your understanding.

RockLee · 18 Dec 2005

Hear Hear !! I think it's a good idea, AND at least we can still give feedback

Brooker · 18 Dec 2005

Good idea. Giving negative rep only made people angry.

Doc · 20 Dec 2005

Thank you Thomas! You the man!!!

Doc

Tsuyoiko · 20 Dec 2005

I noticed this change - I think it's great! Thanks Thomas!

Revenant · 20 Dec 2005

Noooooo! I was hoping to get just one negative rep here, cause it just seems strange to have gotten none.

Kinsao · 20 Dec 2005

Now I have to say goodbye for ever for my chance at those shiny red balls....

Gaijin 06 · 20 Dec 2005

Revenant said:
Noooooo! I was hoping to get just one negative rep here, cause it just seems strange to have gotten none.

You should have tried disagreeing with Maciamo, then you could get a few that would wipe out all the posistive rep you ever had

Revenant · 20 Dec 2005

Maciamo would have Kablamo power!

I've politely (I hope) disagreed with him, so I don't think he'd have reason to red card me.

Mikawa Ossan · 20 Dec 2005

Merely disagreeing with Maciamo is not enough for him to wipe out your positive rep in one fell swoop, it's in the way you disagree with him. I have rarely agreed with him, and I have yet to get any bad rep from him.

But I have not offended him and have tried to stay engaged with him.

I still see your point. Maciamo's rep clout is very large indeed!

Jack · 20 Dec 2005

so the green still goes up?

Revenant · 20 Dec 2005

Positive rep still goes up.

Mycernius · 21 Dec 2005

Just one question, what about the people who have already recieved neg rep and have little red balls? Does that get cleared or does it remain?

Elizabeth · 21 Dec 2005

Mikawa Ossan said:
Merely disagreeing with Maciamo is not enough for him to wipe out your positive rep in one fell swoop, it's in the way you disagree with him. I have rarely agreed with him, and I have yet to get any bad rep from him.

Perhaps because it hasn't happened as much this year as in the past over pedestrian disagreements. I couldn't care less when it happened to me, just laughing it off although it still takes the cake for one of the more immature and just plain stupid things I've been fortunate enough to experience here. It's no different really than his changing arguments and logic mid-stream, not answering the difficult questions, name-calling etc. in the grab bag of tiresome tactics. :sorry:

Maciamo · 21 Dec 2005

Gaijin 06 said:
You should have tried disagreeing with Maciamo, then you could get a few that would wipe out all the posistive rep you ever had

I rarely give bad rep to people just for disagreeing with me, as Mikawa Ossan pointed out (otherwise, most long-term members would have had bad rep from me at one time or another). I only give bad rep when someone makes everything they can to get on my nerves, without contributing much to the discussion. You have been the worst in this regard so far.

NB : If your rep points didn't go up after my negative rep points, it's probably because not many people felt like your comments were worthy of it.

kirei_na_me · 21 Dec 2005

Mycernius said:
Just one question, what about the people who have already recieved neg rep and have little red balls? Does that get cleared or does it remain?

That's what I was wondering.

Gaijin 06 · 21 Dec 2005

Maciamo said:
NB : If your rep points didn't go up after my negative rep points, it's probably because not many people felt like your comments were worthy of it.

I never said my rep points didn't go up after the event - is this another example of you disclosing information that you have access to behind the rep points that nobody else does?

If someone chooses to not display their reputation, shouldn't that mean egotistical moderators should not blurt out the information?

And if you will quote all the long term members who agree with you, check on this thread for other who don't. Also check my rep tags (as you seem very keen on doing) and you can see who agreed with me.

Kinsao · 21 Dec 2005

Mikawa Ossan said:
Merely disagreeing with Maciamo is not enough for him to wipe out your positive rep in one fell swoop, it's in the way you disagree with him. I have rarely agreed with him, and I have yet to get any bad rep from him.

I can say that I have also disagreed with Maciamo (I can't remember whether it was often or not) and have also never received any bad rep from him.

I think - I hope - that the vast majority of posters were too mature to give out bad rep simply for someone holding a different opinion.

In any case, that is all in the past now.

Jack · 21 Dec 2005

Is the shutting down of negative rep points an attempt to rid the forum, of all negativity? because through the bad rep points people vented a bit of fustration on another member about the post in question. But now i ask where now does a member go to contribute a complain about a another member? Im sure mods wont want to hear members complain and *****, but honestly the bad rep started a lot of bad vibes between folk, which did spill onto the forum pages. Which has seemed quite often in the past months.

I like this community, its good honest folk with really interesting things to say, you know what im announcing myself as "the sheriff" of this here town, sort out the bad from the ugly, and do things for the overall wellbeing of this here community.

Kinsao · 21 Dec 2005

I think neg rep points served no useful purpose as they just would get people's backs up without being constructive. It's better to offer constructive criticism on the forum or through pm.

Tsuyoiko · 21 Dec 2005

I agree Kinsao - it's a demonstration of how much negativity it creates that people are still upset about negative rep they received months ago.

Pachipro · 22 Dec 2005

jack2 said:
But now i ask where now does a member go to contribute a complain about a another member? Im sure mods wont want to hear members complain and *****,....

See that little red and white triangle at the bottom of the column for your name and avatar? You can click on that to report a bad post. Also, you can always pm the mods if you want to make a complaint. That's why they're mods. It's their duty and they keep things pretty straight here. I have nothing but admiration for the fine job they've done.

Damicci · 22 Dec 2005

I have been hit by the neg rep points for making a statement that somebody thought was not related to the subject matter of the thread. Meh it's only points. Doesn't mean that person is not a good person.

Apollo · 31 Dec 2005

That is good news!! I have just noticed it and was about to post a thread about it...

Reiku · 31 Dec 2005

Wise decision...

Ah, that is a good idea--negative rep is more likely to be abused than positive.

Incidentally, the only negative rep point I ever got was from a thread where I had (civily) disagreed with Maciamo.

Don't know if he gave it to me though--whoever did didn't give their name.

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