And what do Chinese feel about light skin? Are there skin lightening creams and whatnot in China, Taiwan, etc.?ricecake said:Hehe .... LOL .... Japanese' self despise of own race is extreme ... hehe ... we do know Japs are very uncomfortable with the word " yellow " whereas they regard whiteness as natural fit for them " Nihonjins " ... hehe ... hehe
Japanese do not use this word "golden" though. An adjective to describe their skin is either "black" or "white". Not yellow. I think "gold" may be a word used in cosmetics.RockLee said:Not that I know of. I never heard the word "Golden" for tans before.
Why do some Chinese people come to this "Japan" forum to do the racist rants...sighricecake said:Hehe .... LOL .... Japanese' self despise of own race is extreme ... hehe ... we do know Japs are very uncomfortable with the word " yellow " whereas they regard whiteness as natural fit for them " Nihonjins " ... hehe ... hehe
I looked up some stuff in Dutch, and it seems in cosmetics they use golden too. I did some search on google for ﾆ担ﾂーﾆ停?ｹﾆ断ﾆ停?懌?敖ｧ(go-ruden hada) and ﾆ担ﾂーﾆ停?ｹﾆ断ﾆ停?愴湛ﾆ鱈ﾆ停??go-ruden skin) and found some sites. Seems it's used too in Japan, didn't get that many hits though.osias said:Japanese do not use this word "golden" though. I think it may be a word used in cosmetics.
「"golden skin" tan」の検索結果 - Yahoo!検索
ricecake said:Hehe .... LOL .... Japanese' self despise of own race is extreme ... hehe ... we do know Japs are very uncomfortable with the word " yellow " whereas they regard whiteness as natural fit for them " Nihonjins " ... hehe ... hehe
osias said:Why do some people come to this "Japan" forum to do the racist rants.
gaijinalways said:Then we can start using 'yellow' too?!☝
ricecake said:Oh .... crybaby
Care to read some particular individuals' postings here these past 4 years,it's not NON-Japanese Asians rather it's " others " :angryfire done much of racist rantings here against Japan and Japanese....
Read the kanji on the bottom:osias said:the Chinese do not say their skin is yellow
osias said:It's the same in the Chinese language, too, the Chinese do not say their skin is yellow.
ricecake said:what are you talking ??
Chinese language has many subgroups and sub-dialects,the word " YELLOW " has been part of Chinese culture for 4000 years with the beginning of legendary ancestral emperor named Huang-Di meaning " Yellow Emperor ".
Chinese race is first and foremost yellow people,PERIOD.
ricecake said:Well .... these Mongoloid ethnicities are all " yellow " skinned people regardless,a Japwanese person probably have little confusion.
Damicci said:Gaijin coul dbe considered racist if you want to look at it as an exclusionary term for people not of Japanese decent. I think thats one way people look at it.
Hachiro said:Can anyone explain how a topic that was discussing whether or not the word gaijin is a racist slur has turned into a talk about Chinese people and the use of he word "yellow"?☝
Next question, please
Easy. Ricecake showed up in the thread.
Mike Cash said:I've heard it used to refer to people of Japanese descent numerous times.
It's an adopted western concept. Colors are metaphors for the classification of different races in the west.Gaijinian said:Read the kanji on the bottom:
Notice the 窶ｰﾂｩﾂ色窶廬ﾃ､_ part...
Anyway, Japanese has the word 窶ｰﾂｩﾂ色ﾂ人
Color terminology for race - WikipediaIn some societies, color metaphors are used in racial classifications. These often originated from differences in human skin color, particularly in Western societies.
Color terminology for race - WikipediaHuang (yellow) is a common surname, but does not refer to the East Asian race as was popular in Western languages until recently.
The basic principle of the arbitrariness of the sign (l'arbitraire du signe) in the extract is: there is no natural reason why a particular sign should be attached to a particular concept.
Course in General Linguistics - WikipediaIn further support of the arbitrary nature of the sign, Saussure goes on to argue that if words stood for pre-existing concepts they would have exact equivalents in meaning from one language to the next and this is not so. Different languages divide up the world differently. To explain this, Saussure uses the word boeuf as an example. He cites the fact that while, in English, we have different words for the animal and the meat product: Ox and beef, in French, boeuf is used to refer to both concepts. A perception of difference between the two concepts is absent from the French vocabulary. In Saussure's view, particular words are born out of a particular society's needs, rather than out of a need to label a pre-existing set of concepts.
Melanin - WikipediaWhen skin pigmentation as a characteristic of race becomes significant in some way, this phenomenon is known as racialism. Many people and societies overlay racialism with racist perceptions and systems which arbitrarily assign to groups of people a status of inherent superiority or inferiority, privilege or disadvantage based on skin color or racial classification. Apartheid-era South Africa is an example of a white supremacist society based on a system of stratification of power and privilege by skin color, as well as racial admixture. Similar examples can be found in Brazil's highly socially color-stratified society; and, in the U.S., segregation and institutional racism on the part of white-controlled and black-controlled institutions, and internal "color consciousness" on the part of some ethnic minorities. Prejudice against people with more highly pigmented skin is the most pervasive form of color bias. Many other societies remain informally divided on the basis of skin color and, often, related ethnicity. (See also colonialism, Nazism, pigmentocracy and institutional racism.)
Various presumptions about people with regard to hair color are far less common than skin-color bias, have far fewer and less serious real-world implications, and are more often applied to women than to men. Common stereotypes in the West are dumb blondes, hot-tempered redheads and vixen brunettes.
osias said:Anyway, what makes the skin pigmentation so essential to the classification of races?? This is a stupid idea that someone in the west came up with.
Are you "窶ｰﾂｩﾂ色"?ricecake said:Well .... these Mongoloid ethnicities are all " yellow " skinned people regardless,a Japwanese person probably have little confusion.