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Is "Gaijin" a Racist Slur?

Is the word "Gaijin" a racist slur?

  • Yes, it is a racist slur and should never be used.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yes, in practice, it is a racist slur.

    Votes: 8 7.8%
  • No, but it have Racist connotations.

    Votes: 24 23.5%
  • No, it is not a racist slur.

    Votes: 21 20.6%
  • No, it is perfectly fine to refer to those who don't have Japanese Citizenship.

    Votes: 10 9.8%
  • No, it is perfectly fine to refer to those who are not of Ethnic Japanese Descent.

    Votes: 19 18.6%
  • I don't have an opinion.

    Votes: 20 19.6%

  • Total voters
    102
i did a test in paris: a japanese asked me something ... and when i answered and he said thamks , i replied: "your welcome gaijin..." the guy got blemish! I think he took it for an insult actually...
 
It's just a word. Gai (outside) Koku (country) Jin (person).

There are only two situations in which the word could possibly be racist:

1. When the speaker intends the message to be racist
2. When the listener interprets the message as racist

In English (here in the UK) we use words like foreigner and immigrant. These are just words that technically and very basically mean 'not of this countries origin'.

However the parties to the discourse alone determine the actual meaning. Just like any other word in any other language.

This topic should be laid to rest. We should rather be discussing how we can better understand each other instead of squabbling over words
 
From my experience it is used as an explanatory term, but can also be used in a derogative manner. It has been said to myself in both ways.
Loquela is right, it literally means a person from outside the country.
 
From my experience it is used as an explanatory term, but can also be used in a derogative manner. It has been said to myself in both ways.
Loquela is right, it literally means a person from outside the country.

All the word means is foreigner, no more no less.
 
All the word means is foreigner, no more no less.


That's what I thought, and always took it as.
Japanese teachers told us such as well.

What's the difference between
"gaijin"
&
"gaikokujin" ?
The 2nd one is just a bit more formal, right?

As i've posted before in this thread,
i never felt bad things towards me when someone used the word "gaijin".
 
My husband and his family refer to me as gaikokujin only when necessary and they would NEVER call me gaijin. From that I would have to say that gaijin is less of a "nice" word or term than gaikokujin.
 
My husband and his family refer to me as gaikokujin only when necessary and they would NEVER call me gaijin. From that I would have to say that gaijin is less of a "nice" word or term than gaikokujin.

Americans with Japanese descent with Gajin Card in Japan moral?
In Japan, there is no recognition of dual nationality. All foreigners in Japan must hold a gaijin card, (a.k.a. alien registration card). Is it ethical, to make someone who is born in Japan, and full blooded Japanese who is a citizen however, of the United States, to make them carry a Gajin card also? I am thinking since they have a Nikkeijin visa, that to preserve their sense of honor, that they should be given a Nikkeijin card, as opposed to a Gaijin card, to acknowedge their ancestry, especially if you were born in Japan.

Semper Fi

Hoorah.
 

Ethical I dont know, however in the situation you wrote here could not technically occur because Japan doesnt recognize dual citizens as you correctly noted. What you wrote is a contradiction itself.

I understand the point you want to make but to take the citizenship of the US means that they would have to give up their Japanese one, hence the need to carry the "gaijin" card.

What do you think about the Japanese couples that take themselves to the US to give birth to their children just to get them the American citizenship, which of course the child will have to decide to either keep or toss away after they turn 21.

@Sukotto
What's the difference between
"gaijin"
&
"gaikokujin" ?
The 2nd one is just a bit more formal, right?

Basically yes. It is a non-issue to me personally.

I truly have a difficult time understanding why "gaijin" people living here in Japan or not here in Japan get so upset about it?

This "topic" is another one of the things that make me often wonder about why people come to Japan to live if they get so upset about something as trivial as the word "gaijin"

To each his or her own I guess.

Happy New Year!
 
Being called a 'gaijin' does not particuarly upset me, but I prefer it if they
say 'gaijin-san' or 'gaikokujin'. I know also my husband and his family
would never say 'okusan wa gaijin' desu, and he always refers to foreigners
as 'gaikokujin' and went out of his way to correct people if they used the
word 'gaijin'.
From this I would also assume that it is a Nicer way to talk about foreigners, than using the word 'gaijin'. To me, having lived here so long, it sounds like
slang. Simple as that.
 
You know I never really paid attention to the poll options until right now and one thing that sticks out is that to me at least the poll, as written with the options currently in place, leans towards the negative.
 
The choices presented in a poll often betray certain biases on the part of the pollster. (I almost feel bad saying this, because Flanker doesn't post here any more, but it is true.)
 
You know I never really paid attention to the poll options until right now and one thing that sticks out is that to me at least the poll, as written with the options currently in place, leans towards the negative.
The poll was created in response to previous topics arguing the word was inherently racist and exclusionary. Flanker personally didn't believe so but like many Japanese in the current environment, understands the rude/aggressive impact it could have and avoids using it for that reason.
 
Gaijin or Gaikokujin means "foreigner", so why would it be racist? It is what we are as non-Japanese. Foreigners.

It's not the word itself - it's the connotation. After all, as a black person, I am a person of color. However, if someone called me "colored," I would feel offended. At one point, I was also considered a negro or a nigger - yet people would simply say that those words mean "black." It IS racist, though.

Gaijin in itself is not racist, just like colored is not racist by itself... but when used in certain situations, then yeah - yeah, it can be pretty racist.
 
It's not the word itself - it's the connotation. ... but when used in certain situations, then yeah - yeah, it can be pretty racist.

That has been pointed out here many different times, it is all how YOU decide to accept how the person using the word is saying it. It really is pretty simple. There is no equalling with the words that you used to describe a person of color.

The word "gaijin" is colorblind.
 
I think saying something like "idiot foreigner" is pretty self explanatory. I can't see, in any way, where said person is trying to be nice in that statement.

If we said "Idiot Foreigner" in public you bet there would be problems, at least here in America. The proof is in the many arguments people have about the foreigners that are here.

The word gaijin by not by invention BE racist. But some people (including Japanese) sure try to use it as one at times.

The word itself is fine, it's the usage and intention of it that is not always "ok".

People can skew almost any word towards having a different meaning when they really try.

So to answer the question... Is the word "Gaijin" a racist slur? The answer is NO.

However, if it had asked... Can the word "Gaijin" be used as racist slur? The answer is surely YES.

I think to whomever says no, has probably never been attacked by someone used that word in a negative manner.
 
I think saying something like "idiot foreigner" is pretty self explanatory.

Our high school Japanese teacher, a US guy, used to joke with us using the phrase henna gaijin. At the time it was all in fun. If we went to Japan would after all be guests and we didn't want to act totally stupid. If you've ever watched Yan-san or Jane videos in their visits to Japan doing really rediculous stuff, that's the type of stuff he'd tell us in class we would be called "henna gaijin" for.

Baka gaijin is probaly definately bad
 
*nod*

And that is what I heard over and over on my last trip to Japan (when I went with 7 people total). From complete strangers either walking down the road or in a restaurant, followed by a loud laugh.

When I visited on my first trip just myself and one other, I never heard anyone say anything negative towards us, no one even said the word "gaijin".
Though some people in passing did say "An American". And one crazy lady in Kyo whom has found me both times and STILL thinks I'm Canadian! I think that woman is stalking me...
 
If you've ever watched Yan-san or Jane videos in their visits to Japan doing really rediculous stuff, that's the type of stuff he'd tell us in class we would be called "henna gaijin" for.


OMG Yansan is so funny!

Was it made in 80s? Everything looks so old.
I like Yansan character though. He's so charming.
 

Your statement completely reflects my feelings. Just because a word has a simple and neutral meaning at first glance doesn't mean it can't be ambiguous and offensive if it is used as an insult regularly. IMHO, knowing that and using it anyway, while pointing out it's neutral literal meaning is hypocritical.
 
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I think a proper conception of ethics should make us avoid such a word, just because there is a possibility of hurting a persons feelings.
 
I think a proper conception of ethics should make us avoid such a word, just because there is a possibility of hurting a persons feelings.

I understand you opinion about being concerned about people's feelings.

The Japanese people as a whole generally are very polite and are considerate of not only Japanese peoples feelings but foreigner's as well.

I
 
I think a proper conception of ethics should make us avoid such a word, just because there is a possibility of hurting a persons feelings.

This has always been the clincher for me.

If (for example) a Japanese person told me that the expression J-Girl could sound insulting/disrespectful, I'd immediately refrain from using it

The same goes for gaijin. There's no doubt that it's often used disrespectfully, and often causes offence. Therefore people who are aware of this should not use the word.
 

You realize however that the "problem" as you are talking about it is not from the point of view of whether or not "we" as "gaijin" should use the word or not doesn't matter one bit at all.

There is a HUGE amout of doubt that it is "often" used disrespectfully, as I have experienced it is used as a throw away term with pretty much no meaning at all, other than what it is, "foreigner".

If (for example) a Japanese person told me that the expression J-Girl could sound insulting/disrespectful, I'd immediately refrain from using it

Ok, I can respect that, but would you "actually" use that word in everyday conversation with a Japanese person? I would be willing to make a huge bet that even if you did, depending of course on the audience, people would not know what you were refering to in the first place. I realize the point you are trying to make, as you were just using this as an example, but would you even think of using a word like "Jap" to refer to Japanese in front of them?

You seem to be thinking of the problem from the basis of how you were raised to think about racial issues. Here in Japan it is an entirely different story altogether, people here, Japanese people just don't see the issue from the point of view that you or others that complain about it, do. It really is a non-issue to them. Not to say that it isn't important to you, but really if you take a hard look at it and think about it, it isn't that big of a deal.

I think a proper conception of ethics should make us avoid such a word, just because there is a possibility of hurting a persons feelings.
heliobacter are you Japanese?
 
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