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8bit.vis

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American here. Lifetime resident of the Boston area. Twenty five years old, no Japanese language experience and I have not yet visited the country. But I enjoy language immensely and, being bored with English, have recently decided to start classes. The Japanese language in particular because it seems to be one of the most dramatic contrasts in terms of both structure and use; I took Spanish in highschool and became bored by its 'English-in-different-letters' feel. Linguistic Relativism seems like a promising notion, and a particularly useful one if applied to problemsolving. I'd like to arrange my thoughts along new lines entirely when I think fluently in a foreign language, which is what prompts my seeking the sharp contrast.

Beyond this nascent interest in the Japanese language, I really just want to get out of the States. Not because I have any particular problem with life here, but for reasons that I have difficulty explaining. Perhaps I'd just be intellectualizing pure cultural boredom if I tried.

I'm a half white, half black mixture raised exclusively by my white mother in a predominantly Armenian town. So I'm used to not really fitting in, used to cursory discrimination, and not too concerned about being an "outside person" elsewhere either. That said, Japan seems 'western' in the ways that matter (trade, technological and economic development) but otherwise about as alien as possible. I've spent the past few days reading quite a few ridiculously interesting old threads on this forum, particularly fascinated by the detailed insights provided by Maciamo et all. A couple of those threads linked to subforums that one seems to have to register in order to access, prompting me to de-lurk. And so here I am.

Not sure what else to say.
Forgive my babbling. A simple hello would have sufficed, I'm sure.
 
Hummm?

Maybe you just need a break from the snow,ice, and cold of New England? The trouble with living in New England(I'm in Portland,ME) is the airplane flight to Japan is too darn long and extra expensive.Welcome aboard fellow New Englander!

Uncle Frank

 
Welcome to the forums 8bit.vis!
I hope you enjoy the community!
 
Uncle Frank said:
Maybe you just need a break from the snow,ice, and cold of New England? The trouble with living in New England(I'm in Portland,ME) is the airplane flight to Japan is too darn long and extra expensive.Welcome aboard fellow New Englander!
Ahh, Maine. Excellent. New England Uber Alles! Except perhaps Japan, eh? I don't mind the weather really, although scraping ice from the windshield is not what I'd describe as a pleasant ritual. ^_^

Petaris said:
I hope you enjoy the community!
I already am, and I've not even participated yet! Heh. I have been literally riveted by what I've read here. It has been a long time since I've come across something so immediately interesting. There are a few trivial things that I've already come to appreciate, like being somewhat better able to understand some of the social tidbits in the anime I grew up watching. For example: the visible antagonism and public disinterest between Ranma and Akane in Ranma 1/2, despite their underlying and almost ritually unspoken affection for one another growing with time. And then there are more significant things that I vastly appreciate being exposed to, even at a glance.

Learning about various Japanese cultural trends from the gaijin who have lived there:
  • The unentrenched spirituality; I am an atheist.
  • The emphasis on uncertainty avoidance; I've recently isolated this type of uncertainty as the central cause of a poignant... 窶「sヒ?? (? - excellent word) in my life.
  • The lawmaking tending to regard public function instead of moral ideals; I place little or no importance on moral ideology, heavily preferring function.
  • The acceptability of reservation in demeanor, particularly with respect to business relationships; I am constantly told by westerners that I am "difficult to read emotionally", and yet we are required to be all smiles in the States.
So on et cetera...

The pragmatism, the comfort with withholding public displays of affection, the merging of the marital bank accounts, the emphasis on technology, the elegance in architectural design... there is just so much that I find I appreciate, and I can't think of a better way to learn about it besides actually going there myself. Invaluable resource you have here.

Thank you both for the welcome!
 
In the early morning, while the sun rises to the occasion here over the roof of Japan, I'd like to shout out at you and welcome you to JREF !!

WELCOME !!

Here in good ole Shinano (now Nagano) we have long, drawn out winters with a bitting cold, so it's so important to enjoy these brief moments of what summer we do have here. I hope that some fine day you will be able to make it over here to this part of the world. I'm not so certain that you will actually end up finding everything to your likes--if you were to stay, that is--but it is definitely different...no doubt about that. (of course here I will delimit that by saying, 'in some ways.')

The information and degree of 'yourself' that you have shared with us is just great. It is such that invigorates further thought and envolvement. Talk to you later !! MM
 
I'm not so certain that you will actually end up finding everything to your likes--if you were to stay, that is--but it is definitely different...no doubt about that.
I wouldn't know how to react if I actually found everything to my liking. Not only would such a thing obstruct my creative drive, but I've also been conditioned to understand that utopia is by definition an impossibility. ^_^

Thank you for the welcome.
 
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