Help if you can speak french

miki78 · 2 Oct 2006

I wondered if anyone here can speak french is so could you please help

i wanted to say these lines in french there for a project i'm working on but when i put the through the trandlater they don't come out right

i need to say

silent hollow pages

silent lonely pilgrim

Pussy cat of the weeping roses

Help

dreamer · 3 Oct 2006

hum... either my english is worse than I thought or it really doesn't make sense to me ^^;

Anyway I would say

Silencieuses pages vides (I translated hollow as empty)

Silencieux pelerinage solitaire

Chat des roses larmoyantes (I'm not sure the meaning you give to pussy cat since both mean the same to me)

I hope I helped somehow...

miki78 · 3 Oct 2006

Thankyou very much you have been very helpful

Hee Hee there is nothing wrong with your English there suposed to be cryptic and make no sence like that

Sorry i should have explained there for the title of paintings

I always name them like that with words that convey the emotion sence or charicters that lay withen them

Thanks again

dreamer · 3 Oct 2006

You are welcome

miki78 · 7 Nov 2006

Anybody know how to say

my silent ancient rose

my silent black rose

my silent red rose

please

]-wandering-raven-[ · 7 Nov 2006

Ma silencieuse ancienne rose
Ma silencieuse rose noir
Ma silencieuse rose rouge

I'd like to ask dreamer first though,My french is terrible,even though I'm half french.

miki78 · 7 Nov 2006

^_^ Thankyou very much ^_^

Kinsao · 7 Nov 2006

^ The first one would actually be ma silencieuse rose ancienne if you really want to mean an 'ancient' rose. If you put the ancienne before the rose it just means 'old' (or 'former').

Also the second would be ma silencieuse rose noire (the 'e' makes it the feminine gender which is correct )

Seon-a Kim · 7 Nov 2006

Isn't it "Mon rouge rose silencieux"? Just wondering...

Kinsao · 7 Nov 2006

^ Yes, for the silencieuse to come afterwards, is correct

Seon-a Kim · 7 Nov 2006

That's what I though

So miki78 will have some adjustments to do ^_^

miki78 · 7 Nov 2006

So erm how do all three come out now ^_^;;please

Seon-a Kim · 7 Nov 2006

miki78 said:
So erm how do all three come out now ^_^;;please

According to me it should be:

Ma rose ancienne silencieuse

Mon rose noir silencieux

Ma rose rouge silencieuse

miki78 · 7 Nov 2006

Thankyou very much everybody ^_^

But in this Mon rouge rose silencieux what is the Mon to the Ma is there a diffrence could i use Mon instead of Ma or does it mean something diffrent ?please

]-wandering-raven-[ · 8 Nov 2006

Its female or male for the word it belongs with.

Kinsao · 8 Nov 2006

No, it's "Ma rose noire silencieuse".

It's "la rose" that is feminine. So the "silencieuse", the "ma", the "noire", and the "ancienne" all have to be feminine to agree with it ("rouge" doesn't change its spelling between m and f ^^).

miki78 · 8 Nov 2006

OK erm confused

So Ma rose noire silencieuse is female and Mon rose noire silencieuse is male is that right

So if it for a girl it would be Ma and for a boy it would be Mon ?^_^;;

]-wandering-raven-[ · 8 Nov 2006

yeah,female subject = ma male subject = mon.

and .oh you don't need to capitalize it >_>

Seon-a Kim · 8 Nov 2006

Kinsao said:
No, it's "Ma rose noire silencieuse".
It's "la rose" that is feminine. So the "silencieuse", the "ma", the "noire", and the "ancienne" all have to be feminine to agree with it ("rouge" doesn't change its spelling between m and f ^^).

ooowwwww shoot

Not to great with this either...but well, I'm glad with all our input we came to the correct conclusion and the mystery got solved

miki78 · 8 Nov 2006

Thankyou very much everybody for your help ^_^

Kinsao · 8 Nov 2006

miki78 said:
OK erm confused
So Ma rose noire silencieuse is female and Mon rose noire silencieuse is male is that right
So if it for a girl it would be Ma and for a boy it would be Mon ?^_^;;

No, I'm sorry to confuse you more, but... that isn't right...
The word "rose" is feminine gender in French - that means that the word itself is 'feminine' regardless of the sex of the person in possession of the rose or otherwise connected with it. There is no such thing as "mon rose", that would be incorrect grammar.
Basically, every noun has either masculine or feminine gender, which does not change. It is the adjectives that change their gender to agree with the noun. You see?
For example (I hope this makes it clear):
The word rose is feminine.
Therefore your sentence is ma rose noire silencieuse (with the words ma, noire and silencieuse changing their endings to agree with the gender of rose).
Now suppose that instead of la rose you wanted to talk about le cafard [cockroach].
The word cafard is masculine.
Therefore your sentence would be mon cafard noir silencieux - and you will see there that mon, noir and silencieux are different, to agree with the masculine noun cafard.
Does that make things any clearer? :?

miki78 · 8 Nov 2006

um ^_^;; i think...so ^_^;;

So if this was the name of a male charicter in a story i would still use ma right?

I always pick stupid names for my charicters but french is such a pretty languege

Kinsao · 8 Nov 2006

miki78 said:
So if this was the name of a male charicter in a story i would still use ma right?

Yes, that's right!

The 'masculine'/'feminine' thing only refers to the genders of the nouns, it has no relation to the sex of the people in your story!

dreamer · 8 Nov 2006

Geee sorry guys I was flying all around the Us (Virginia, Colorado, Texas and Nevada) >.<
but seems like you were able to figure it out without my help ^^

Actually to confuse you more, you can also say
"Mon ancienne rose silencieuse" if you were to say my ancient silent rose

Tehehe...

miki78 · 9 Nov 2006

So uuummm i can use mon instead of ma???????????

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