ricecake said:CORRECTION ....
Only Chinese ABORIGINAL MINORITIES like Zhuang,Miao,Yao,Dai,plus others CAME FROM South East Asia,not Han Chinese who ARE MAINLY OF NE Asian stock same as Japanese and Koreans migrated through Tibet Kunlun mountains over 6000 years ago.
Han Chinese dialects belong to Sino-Tibetan language family.
Those SOUTHERN Chinese aboriginal minorities' languages are in the same Tai-Kadai group.
ricecake said:Trust me .... PURE native SE Asians HAVE INDIGENOUS LOOKS,entirely different from Han Chinese and blood-siblings Japanese or Koreans.
I am a full blood ETHNIC Chinese from former S Vietnam,I can attest to this FACT.
Grimmo said:You are talking about the outliers in each population, and does not fit the sound statistical models to construct the phylogeny. If you mean the statistical averages in each subpopulation, you could identify that 80% of han chinese and south east asian are closer in looks than to korean or japanese.
ricecake said:That's ********* !
A salad bowl of cheap lies.
No PURE Vietnamese, Thais,Laotians, Burmese, Cambodians, Malaysians, Indonesians look a bit Han Chinese for we LOOK VERY ORIENTALS as are Japanese and Koreans who SHARE SAME HERITAGE in culture,history,plus genetics which is extremely painful for Viets to accept as THE TRUTH.
Grimmo said:I presume that both japanese and korean have different perspectives. It seems that Han chinese out of South East Asia theory is well accepted by internet community, but it is not me who propagated that "not-far-from-true" hypothesis.
Grimmo Korean and Japanese in genetics do not cluster with han chinese said:*********************************************************
There are many Koreans and Japanese DNA experts FULLY ACCEPT Han Chinese shared ALL Y-chromozones among yellow race.
WHAT is strange .... a socially REJECTED hurtful Viet like yourself making time to AIR FICTITIOUS THEORY not merely accepted by HEALTHY-MINDED people.
WHAT is Viets ultimate pain,EXCLUDED from the prestige NE Asian club ?
As a side note,I very much DOUBTED you or any Viet knows " the true definition " of Han Chinese.
ricecake said:WHAT internet community ?
You mean a few DEDICATED VICIOUS Viet-trolls and SPITEFUL unltra-nationalist S Koreans SPREADING THIS FICTITIOUS THEORY.
Many EUROPEAN FORUMERS plus pure-blood Japanese here FULLY ACCEPTED Japanese,Koreans,and Han Chinese SHARE SAME HERITAGE .... PERIOD
I caught you pulled that map from MekongDragon's post from JT forum minutes.I bet you're a ONE-MAN OPERATION with multiple usernames.
Grimmo said:I often come to Japantoday forum for reference. Believe me, many frequent posters here are also in JT forum. There are not many asia-related web sites on the web, and most who are interested in the origin of ** knows the hypothesis conjectured by "hypes", who is misterious, and excessively prolific.
ricecake said:Oddly though,all your postings here CENTERED ON " origin " of Han Chinese.
You mission gets SO FANATIC,you even didn't forget to spread your FICTITIOUS THEORY in thread titled " origin of Japanese people " which is IRRELEVANT.
ricecake said:That hypes Viet-troll was you,so is MC420 @ CHF plus iamchinaman and MekongDragon @ JT forum.
You have been actively WORKING THOSE Asian forums to air your FICTITIOUS THEORY OF Chinese origin which IS MEANINGLESS at best.
Many people here do know Chinese race has many many ethnicities.
Grimmo said:That's because of another chinese poster, who posts in that thread. I believe before commenting on the origin of other races, chinese should settle down their roots. Unless chinese people cannot logically and scientifically refute the hypes' argument, any claims on ancestral relationship to korean and chinese should be deemed unconvincing.
ricecake said:That's BIG LIE ...
I know Minty from CHF,she vigorously refuted your FICTITIOUS THEORY of Han Chinese is of SE origin in fact we are manily of North Eastern Asian stock.
It seems,IT'S YOUR OBSESSION plus a psycho-pathe Viets as for majority of internet junkies DO GIVE A **** about Chinese people in general.
Grimmo said:Why don't you come back to your forum, and defeat hypes by civilized and rational disputation? I think it' really a waste of time you are coming here to complain about hypes, because I am not him, and so is, i think, MC420, as I can see the differences in our writing styles, and focuses.
ricecake said:.What's your point,you need to educate Japanese people who are the Chinese ?
ricecake said:That Viet-troll hypes IS BANNED from JT forum,I am BATTLING your username MekongDragon there right now.
Grimmo said:Good luck!:chinese:
Your deflection is totally unjustifiable. JREF is for mostly moderate people who doesn't fit in the wickedness and brutality required for these forums. Please go back to your holes. Your attempt and obsession overstripps the civilized bounds. Get a life.ricecake said:Oh .... a confession,you're INDEED MekongDragon plus MC420 @ CHF.
Grimmo said:Your deflection is totally unjustifiable. JREF is for mostly moderate people who doesn't fit in the wickedness and brutality required for these forums. Please go back to your holes. Your attempt and obsession overstripps the civilized bounds. Get a life.
I am not here to defend hypes' thesis. He indeed copied several materials from me, and I asked
if I can get some materials from him, and he didn't reply anything, so this mean that I am not hypes.
I had a name of "Gantz" in JT, and that's the only id I had.
ricecake said:Serious MENTAL PROBLEM .... talking to yourself as you do have " multiple personalities or identities " on the internet.