Does this make sense?

Ryuk · 8 Mar 2008

I am still a bit unsure as to what order things should go in. Could someone tell me if this makes sense and if I have got these things in the right order

私は金曜日にレストーランと日本人ともだちをいきました。

I went to a restaurant with a Japanese friend on Friday.

私は土曜日十時半ごろをおきました。

I got up at abour 10:30 on Saturday.

私は月曜日に一人でおてらをいきました。

I went to temple alone on Monday.

I know my spelling of restaurant might be a bit dodgey but i'm mostly just unsure about the particals and order of words. Thanks for any help

Elizabeth · 8 Mar 2008

Ryuk said:
I am still a bit unsure as to what order things should go in. Could someone tell me if this makes sense and if I have got these things in the right order

私は金曜日にレストーランと日本人ともだちをいきました。

I went to a restaurant with a Japanese friend on Friday.

（私は）金曜日に日本人のともだちとレストランにいきました。

This is the first and only one I looked at. Sometimes it is better to make sure basic sentence corrections are understandable before going further afield.

Ryuk · 8 Mar 2008

Okay I understand now, order goes something like "Subject - Time - Who I Went With - Destination - Verb".

Elizabeth · 9 Mar 2008

Ryuk said:
Okay I understand now, order goes something like "Subject - Time - Who I Went With - Destination - Verb".

As a general pattern. Of course there are tremendous exceptions dependent on general context + what you need to emphasize etc but we shouldn't complicate the process any more right now.

OK, Second one...

土曜日（は、に、には）十時半ごろ（に）おきました。

Ryuk · 9 Mar 2008

Thanks. I understand that there will be many variations on sentence patterns but I am still learning basics so yeah at the moment i'm just trying to get basic stuff sounding right. I think my main problem seems to be with where and when to use "ni". I know what it is used for but I think just practice is needed using it.

Damicci · 9 Mar 2008

私はに一人でおてらにいきました。
に is needed to specify location (in this case of travel) or short term actions
を normally used to specify action performed on object.
たとえば：
私はにおてらをたちましたｗ
I built a temple on Monday.
Something of that nature.

Elizabeth · 9 Mar 2008

Ryuk said:
Thanks. I understand that there will be many variations on sentence patterns but I am still learning basics so yeah at the moment i'm just trying to get basic stuff sounding right. I think my main problem seems to be with where and when to use "ni". I know what it is used for but I think just practice is needed using it.

に is needed to specify location (in this case of travel) or short term actionsを normally used to specify action performed on object.

I agree with Damicci.

すごく難しいですね。
東京へ行きます、東京に行きます、という場合、へでもにでも違いはないですね。どちらでも使えます。

ただ、場所とか、土地の方角の場合は、へでも、にでもかまわないですけど、 You can use に or へ to talk about going to a place, or referring to directionality.

何かする場合は、ACTIVITYというですかね。。。踊りとか、遊びとか、踊りにいきます、勉強に行きます。。。

でも、踊りへいきますというのは言えません。

You can also use に but not へ to go do an activity, like dancing or studying.

それで、「何々をいく」はいつも間違いですね。がんばってね！

Does this make sense?

Ryuk

スパ外国人

Elizabeth

先輩

Ryuk

スパ外国人

Elizabeth

先輩

Ryuk

スパ外国人

Damicci

先輩

Elizabeth

先輩

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