Champloo said:what?
彼にだけ知らせないのは不公平だ
Literal translation: Him only can't know as for unfair is.
The one that supposed to make sense: It isn't fair to leave only him alone in the dark.
So where's the dark? Isn't the dark ''yomi''?*is a newb sorry*
no Doesn't act as an ing, does it? Well not from what i've learned. Yomimasu has nothing to do with this sentence, but perhaps one of the kanji looks simular to the one for 'read'. I hate to say this, but I think you are talking out of your ***.GoldCoinLover said:彼にだけ知らせないのは不公平だ
Literal translation: Him only can't know as for unfair is.
The one that supposed to make sense: It isn't fair to leave only him alone in the dark.
Wow, good job. Are you new in japanese? Yomu (yomimasu) means "to read".\
Question: 知らせないの
I realize "nai" is the negative, HOWEVER is the "no" in this case possessive or attached to the verb and thus is a 'ing' noun (gudan or guran or something its called like that)?
In other words, is the verb normalized? So that it's both a verb and a noun?
Yes, he is talking out of his ***, but "no" actually can work as a nominalizer (together with "koto", "mono", and many others). And I didn't understand the "yomu" comment either.Champloo said:no Doesn't act as an ing, does it? Well not from what i've learned. Yomimasu has nothing to do with this sentence, but perhaps one of the kanji looks simular to the one for 'read'. I hate to say this, but I think you are talking out of your ***.☝
Glenn said:No, it's used like a relative pronoun here: "That (they) didn't tell only him is unfair."
Champloo said:Whoa, thanks for that link, it helps alot alot alot. ^_^
Like:
Tori no uta.
''Song of the Bird''
OOOOOOOOOOH! *smacks her head* It was right infront of my face the entire time. It's used for THE.:sorry:
KrazyKat said:Actually, 'no', doesn't mean 'the'. In Japanese they don't actually use the words 'a' or 'the' at all. In the sentence you posted 'no' means 'of'. It is essentially used to make the possesive, ie the " 's " in Bird's song.
Actually 'of' is possesive. Same thing. (unless i'm thinking in japanese too much now) We call it the genitive case if anyone cares.GoldCoinLover said:No can be possessive, or mean 'of'. It can also be put at the end of sentences to form questions...
moofs said:No... I don't think that's quite correct. The の is still a nominalizer. Instead of making it just a noun like in 読むの it's a noun clause; therefore, "彼にだけ知らせないのは不公平だ", "彼にだけ知らせないの" is the noun clause. "Leaving only him in the dark is not fair."(Or more literally, "Only not letting him know is unfair.")
It's just like a basic X は Y です。 but more complex.
You can easily replace that part of the phrase with a noun and it'll still work.
反則するのは不公平だ。 = "Cheating is not fair."
軟派するのはだめですよ。 = "Picking up chicks is bad, you know." (Can also be "Flirting is bad, you know.)