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12012

PKK: hmm... I agree w/ what everyone else here has said and can't be bothered to write more against your comments. If you have any more... do us all a favor. Flush them down the f*cking toilet and ****.

boobiebutt: Hahaha! I'm not 21 yet... as sunsweet already said. ^_^;;;

This past weekend was so much fun. I hope we can meet up for some other concert again in the future. ^_^
 
lmao i was a bit harsh by saying **** -_- *sorta feels bad*

*is going to hell anyways*


bastu always has meets at concert lines and stuff -_- there should be a jref meet at every concert too.. and i need to hang out with u guys more! rather then pop in and out every so often lol
 
Well... I don't particularly want to meet everyone from this forum, ha!

but I will say that the people that I have chosen to meet have been absolutely wonderful people ^_^

Even if some of them have fallen off of the deep end, I don't regret anything...

*gives you all big wet sloppy drunk off of watermelon smirnoff and apple martinins kisses while listening to my signed copy of 12012's not obtain +1*
lmao ^^
 
lmao! I agree with you there sunsweet! Saturday was hillarious... I wish my life had a rewind and replay button. We were so loud... or at least I was. ^_^; I wonder if Tomo heard my 'kudasaimasen ka' line... He probably didn't though. It was funny. You should have said your line!

I don't actually know what concert I'll be going to next. Then again, I should let my credit card recover a bit so I can afford x-mas.
 
OMG NEKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKYYYYOOOOOO IS THAT TOMOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IN UR AVATARRRRRRRRR ICONNNNN T_T *BLOODY NOSE*

if it isnt i just made an *** out of myself for no reason lmao... i sorta miss 12012...

im going to katsucon.. thats in feb... plenty of time for ur card to recover..
 
heh... any jrockers there? Where is it? Maybe I can go. And yes, it's Tomo looking delicious.
 
boobiebutt you should have hung out with us more. all i remember of you was running away screaming I AM NOT A FANBOY!!! lmao

yeah who is gonna be at katsucon? i would go just to hang out with you guys, especially nekkyo. one drink and she won't stop laughing. hahahaha
 
Wow this topic has exploded. And yea I had so much fun hanging with you guys. So much fun. My credit card has died on me and my bank account hates me at this moment In the past WEEK I have spent $1600 so yea my credit card has actually took the initive to cut itself in half for me.

And as far as Katsucon It is my belief that Gazette will be at Katsucon, or if not Gazette then some other band, as that is the next big convention coming up. (Not that Onicon was big by anymeans) also if you read the Kagrra, thread then there is a possibility that they will be coming to L.A in March/April.
 
LMAO! NOT TRUE!!! ... ^_^;;; Ok... well maybe... Aww, pixy! I miss you!!! We have to meet up again! And nana, sunsweet, and boobiebutt should be there too!

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Yeah... I need to cut down on my hobby expenses... but I don't see that happening any time soon. -_-; Where is Katsucon held at? And I've never listened to Gazette... however, I have listened to Kagrra. Anyone willing to hook me up? ^_^;
 
um washington d.c in feb.... i think the site is katsucon.com or u can just google it...

by the way we should keep it 12012 related now cause some people *cough cough cough* might go crazy and be like

'what r u guys going off topic for this is a 12012 thread blah blah blah*

what do u guys think r the chances of 12012 coming back? so far the bands i can think of that came here more then once is like despa|deg
 
They have to come back. And I think they definately will I know they enjoyed themselves you could see it on their faces.
 
Well... it was the second time Wataru and Hiroaki were in the states... wasn't it? ^______^ Hopefully they'll return soon.
 
well forgive me for finding it tiring hearing omg i did this at the autograph session or they said this to me for the photo session or so and so did this on stage or so and so sooo winked and smiled at me or so and so is sooo ****** hot omg... i dont want to hear all about that when it's really about the music... sorry for wanting to hear more about that than anything else... i came home and wanted to hear about peoples experiences and was disappointed to find an overload of all such comments... 12012 would be just as appealing if they were ugly as sin or if i was blind... sometimes i kind of wish jrockers were ugly... ahahaha

so in case it's unclear no i'm not gonna just not go... i'll always tough it out... because i'm there for the music... don't just blow it off cause some other show the fans were worse... it's never ok... maybe you should consider that respect towards fans is both for the band and their fans... you think they like fans mistreating eachother? you're not just offending me or someone else... you are offending them too... what if someone seriously got hurt... you think they would be proud of you for getting closer at the expense of the well being of someone else? use your brains

and jeez nana... you don't have to defend your boobs... i just said it wasn't the right thing to talk about in my opinion atleast... so maybe you didnt go just to get your boobs signed but if you went for the shows i would just expect that's what you would talk about... what anyone would talk about... you all enjoyed it? then i'm sure others want to hear about it... but go ahead have your so called harmless fun... who am i to stop you... i'm not offended by it... irritation and offense are different darling... i think it's simply immature plus unnecessary and irrelevant conversation material... even if it is their signatures...

i didnt say you were all spoiled little girls did i? if you spent your hard earned money just as i did i would just assume you would speak mostly about the real reason they came here... to play lives in america... to let you experience their music firsthand... the real reason anyone should have came for them... i was wrong to assume this would be the key element of conversation... i never learn...

and you are wrong boobie cause if i bought tickets first i get closer... if i wait in line 12 hours i get closer... you don't pay the price don't try and steal the benefits... it's downright selfish... don't do it... 99% of the time you will suffer for it cause people wont stand for that... I bought it before other people... i got let in before them... i may have paid the same amount but the point is i bought it first... it's really easy to conclude. people who bought them the day of the show should be behind people who sat there refreshing the page a million times awaiting their chance to purchase the tickets. who said i wasnt happy... just cause i have complaints doesn't mean i wasnt satisfied with the experience... if i was any happier to have seen them i might not be alive... is it possible to die of happiness? yea... just like you not even notice or to help a handicapped person... you fans think only of yourself... haha jk... and the handicapped have every much a right to be in the pit as you!

day one was ok cause none of you moved down there... ha... and i never said the crowd was the worst i've ever experienced or anything... my health was just really bad and i wreaked so much havoc on my body between work, school, weather, lack of sleep, stress, etc. so it seemed 100 times worse to me... a rock show wouldnt be the same if you didnt go home with a few battle scars... i just don't like fighting for my spot the entire time... there's a difference... and thanks kindly Kinsao for your concern... no i'm not any better off really... ahaha... i feel worse and worse by the day... but i'm gonna take some time off from work to rest take it easy and catch up with school... next time i'll be in better health i can hope so i can take on those people... :box: thanks for the review too!

don't all of you gang up and act like i have no right to voice my opinions and you do or i'm wrong and your right because you are the majority... cause in that case it would seem you are the ones putting yourself over me... i dont think i ever said i'm better then you all... simply i'm saying we have different conversational priorities

unless anyone of you guys have anyother things to jump on me about i think perhaps we can be mature and put this behind us, huh? and just in case i need one a disclaimer that a lot of those comments are general and not directed to any one person cause it's not like i know who all of you are... i know who some of you were though... mwaha!

were they filming the shows cause I wasnt paying attention for that... it never crossed my mind... it would be great to have a dvd so i can experience it an infinite amount of times over... haha...
 


id greatly appreciate it if u didnt assume or stuff words in my mouth..

did i say handicapped people didnt have a right to be in the pit? did i say ban handicapped people from the pit? what was that? i cant hear u... NO I DIDNT
i simply said if someone was handicapped that they would have somewhat some common sense to stay out of the pit as every concert venue tells u or sometimes has signs posted that they r not liable for any injuries etc and all that bull crap in the pit... cause the pit is dangerous..duh..

so what do u expect? EVERYONE in the world to know someone is handicapped so they must leave a 2 feet radius around them to play safe? does this handicapped person have a giant sign sticking out of their head to let everyne know to be safe around them? like as iv stated how the hell is anyone suppost to know if anyone is handicapped.. i have nothing against handicapped people nor them being in the pit.. but if ur gonna be in the pit and complain about NORMAL PIT SITUATIONS.. if someone was honestly that handicapped they should have contacted the venue|con|management|etc to set up special arragements so that handicapped person doesnt get all effed up in the pit..


people who bought them the day of the show should be behind people who sat there refreshing the page a million times awaiting their chance to purchase the tickets.

what makes u think ur the only one that refreshed a billion times to buy tickets...what makes u think we didnt wait in line..


I bought it before other people... i got let in before them... i may have paid the same amount but the point is i bought it first...

congrats.. would u like a cookie with that..

if u actually read the fine print on jhouserock... it clearly states people would be let in in the order they purchased the bracelets... therefore if u bought it first... congrats be my guest and go in first and grab urself a front row spot..

waiting in line 12 hours has nothign to do with the line placement or order of entry or any reserved spots in the pit.. if what u state is right... jhouserock would say somethign about reserved spots etc with braclet purchase etc... nothing of that nature was stated or said..


disclaimer my *** not directed to anyone person as u directed the entire paragraph at me.. hell no u dont even know me...therefore u have no reason to even state the fact that i wouldnt notice nor help a handicapped person.. so shove it
 
Sometimes I just want to bang y'all's heads together.

Quit arguing about what happened in the crowd during the show... concerts can be rough, especially in the pit and even more if your health is bad... but people can't be expected to know who isn't in good health... I'm not condoning ignorant behaviour but it's a fact that at concerts you'll get some people who are ok and considerate, and others who fight and behave like total arseholes... and unless you've been in a personal scrap with someone from this forum I don't see why it's necessary to assume that they are the arseholes. Idiots ruin it for other people and just because some people here got to the front I assume they didn't batter other people in order to get there. Right.

The crowd is past and done, let's be in the thread
Stop slinging insults around now, everyone has said their piece and it only makes the atmosphere bad. I'm directing that at everyone, not anyone specific.

There's gotta be a bit of give-and-take between 'serious discussion' and 'fangirling' so let's chill out, ok?
 
Hahahaha... PKK you crack me up.

I really do like you (well, as much can be known from an internet persona), so sorry if my post seemed harsh.

The real issue is that we need to keep in mind that the 5 of us (me, nana, boobs, nekkyo, and pixy_false) were there together at the shows for the most part. The 5 of us, though not necessarily all at once, were always together at some point from Fri-Sun, so we saw the shows together, we waited in line together, we experienced the show together, and we discussed it amongst ourselves for days.

So, coming back to the forums, I suppose there was a bit of a disconnect in seeing as some of the posts were really 'inside jokes' or little tidbits here and there about the weekend, that an outside observer, i.e. you, may see as any of the 5 of us just 'fangirling' and not talking about the shows. The thing is, we don't really need to discuss the shows or the experience in depth in any true way because we were all there together! We already know what happened, we were there ... Gah, did that make any sense?

Okay, so basically it's like this. In the future, I (at least) will attempt to keep forum discussion directed in a more general way as opposed to private jokes and such (for the most part) because I can see how reading our posts made it seem like the only thing we cared about was the nonsense that went on during the weekend, when in fact that is truly truly not the case in any way. In turn, I ask that you don't make assumptions about me or anyone else in such a negative way. It wasn't so much that you attempted to steer the direction of conversation back towards 12's music and the concert, it was that your post began with insults and overall had a sarcastic air of 'I'm better than you' to it. I totally understand your annoyance, especially because you probably have preconceived notions about some of us, but in the future I'm basically just asking for a relative degree of respect in your posts if your aim is just to direct conversation away from what you see as inappropriate or irrelevant conversation as opposed to just being plain mean. Please

*gives big hug* ... *then a kiss* ... ewwwww j/k

I forgot about the fact that you get sick a lot, you have that one fainty-disorder thing right? (You know you love my scientific medical descriptions, lol) Well, I'm glad you got through the show alright, and I'm sorry if I had any part in "hurting" you seeing as I was probably standing somewhere very close to you during the show. Being in the front, though, I didn't really see anything bad happen in the pit, I just felt my body completely mashed and punched every now and again, but it's all good.


Btw, I think I knew who you were too, but I made an effort not to say anything seeing as my typically nonchalant nature has a habit of unintentionally pissing people off so I thought I'd steer clear of making a further a$$ of myself then I already have...
Then again, I talked to everyone and their mama (lol, literally in 2 instances) in line on Sat because I was shall we say a bit tipsy, so lord knows whether or not I said anything to you, haha!

Oh, I didn't see any camera equipment, so I doubt there will be a DVD of any kind. I actually was on the lookout for that, but I didn't end up seeing anything. Too bad, ne, we'll just have to live off of the Hide & Seek Tour dvd~ (I love how I say that like it's a bad thing, lol)

Okay, lastly, 12 is releasing the new single next month, right? I hope it's good, I was really disappointed with PISTOL. Seriously, I really dislike that song >.> I liked HEART enough, but I still think they can do better than their last few singles. I guess we'll see with "Over..." . I still can't decide whether or not to pre-order it because I'm trying to save up for some other indies releases, but knowing me I'll probably cave and get it...
 
@ sunsweet I don't think anyone really liked Pistol.

@pkk the reason everyone came at you like that was because as sun said the way your worded everything seemed as if you were sniffing your nose at us looking down at us and our demeaning actions and behaviour while making it seem like you were the better for the way you were.

And also just so you know I was freaking sick damn near all of Saturday and almost got sick on Friday before the concert. And as far as you being handicapped unles you show the obvious signs (wheel chair, crutches...) no one is going to know. And seriously Sunsweet, Boobs and I know better than most about waiting in line all damn day and risk not getting a spot (MUCC @ Otakon).

And I can honestly say that I did not have the best ticket number at all and still managed to get a good spot so your ticket number has nothing to do with you being in the front, but the lowerr number you have does help.
 
Does anyone have wana yet?

I don't know how I feel about the tracks. They're both fun, kind of upbeat, almost I dunno 'party-rock' in style ... but it left me thinking that they can do more than this. I mean, I liked Heart, I hated PISTOL, and this one is back on the level I think of Heart ... but 12 is kind of leaving something behind with these tracks. Funny enough, I think both tracks on wana would be really fun to hear live, but as far as an album ... I dunno, 12 can bring it harder than this. I'm starting to miss their older stuff...

Oh well, *goes back to listening to random J-indies bands that no one has heard of*
 
You get in earlier for buying your ticket first? That sure is ****** up.
And I'm sorry to say, but in the pit you'll have to fight. Especially if you're in front.
I was lucky enough to be in front at the 12-show and I was fully aware that people would not like me very much and that they WOULD try to steal my spot. I had people sneaking their hands in between, but I was just being harsh back, crushing their hands under my arm on the fence.
But I understand what you mean by some crowds being worse than others. There are sometimes one can say that these people just don't have mosh etiquette.
But on the handicapped thing I have to disagree with you a bit. No matter what you have to consider before entering the pit wether or not you're up for it. We had a girl with us who had a broken toe and she chose to go sit and watch the show instead of getting in there.
And yeah, I guess we do think mostly of ourselves. Depends on our spots and moods and all, but I had travelled from another country to see them, so I just have to apologize for not inviting shorter people in front of me and ****. I don't do that. I guess that makes me selfish and I'm willing to admit that.

Ans yes, the concert was excellent music wise. Probobly the sound was better than most I wa to and they play so great. But the show was a huge part of the experience.
Now I don't know just how bad people have been with this, so I won't say too much.

SUNSWEET:
I have Wana. I loooove six party it's just... It has such energy! There's a great drive in it. And it's got both the hard part and the soft part. Fantastic for lives. When they played it at the live no one had heard it before and before the first chorus was over everyone was singing along and clapping.
With Wana, the song I'm not sure. I havn't listened to it that closely yet. I like it more than I liked PISTORU though. I didn't like that one at all in the beginning, but after the live I've somehow discovered the greatness of it
So yeah, it's good. I think so anyway.

Damn, this became a long post again...
 
so I just have to apologize for not inviting shorter people in front of me and ****. I don't do that.

You mean there are people shorter than you?

........... *runs* :38: XDXD
 
Actually I agree with DollPorn that the sound was not good at all. It was very MUDDY. And it also left a serious buzzing in my ears for like a week afterwards.
 
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