ArmandV said:In other words: An expert knows 40 different ways to make love but has no girls' phone numbers.
Maciamo said:Haven't you heard at least some Japanese say that STD's are only transmitted by gaijins ? I heard it enough times to have an answer ready for that : "What about all those married Japanese men who travel to South-East Asia to get cheap prostitutes, then go back to their wives as if nothing happened ? Aren't they responsible from bringing back STD's to Japan ?"
Han Chan said:It is amasing that the discussion is only about how unfair it would be it some white guys are beeing rejected! Why do no one but myself question wether it is cool to use the services of prostitutes?
Why, maybe you could start your own thread for this?Han Chan said:Amazingly, the discussion is only about how unfair it would be if some white guys were being rejected! Why does no one but myself question whether it is cool to use the services of prostitutes?
ArmandV said:Yes, I've heard that too. Supposedly, Japanese prostitutes won't take gaijins because they carry HIV. Your point about Japanese men hitting on Southeast Asian prostitutes (where there is a rampant disease) shoots that argument down.
Han Chan said:It is amasing that the discussion is only about how unfair it would be it some white guys are beeing rejected! Why do no one but myself question wether it is cool to use the services of prostitutes?
ricecake said:Honestly,I've always read it is the " endowed manhood " of whitemen can present a problem for local Oriental sex providers in the Far East.
Was "can white men use prostitutes in Japan" ever the question? No.CC1 said:I can attest that many white men have used/still use prostitutes in Japan.
Again, their "right" to exclude foreigners is not the point. It is the shallow and contrived basis upon which they reject foreigners that is irksome and the focus here.Are there places that exclude foreigners...yes! Do they have that right? Yes!
cursore said:C'mon Arman I'm waiting for the pricelist..
Go back and read several posts...obviously it was!lu_bu1977 said:CC1,
Was "can white men use prostitutes in Japan" ever the question? No.
lu-bu1977 said:Anybody with some integrity would realise that that list is short indeed and that the majority of the multitudes of "mainstream" fleshpots are offlimits to foreigners.
I really hadn't thought of it, but when I saw that one in Shibuya (and already knowing what they are), I thought about maybe taking a peek inside to see what their facilities were like. From the outside, it seemed pretty clean (I was only able to see as far as (I guess) an anteroom).WHEATTHlNS said:No - but I am not ashamed to say I would think about it.
Isn't entry to a soapland regulated (by bumpers) before one gets a chance to meet the girls ? It's a bit like entering a nightclub, isn'y it. If you can't get in, you can't complain that the bartender won't serve you drinks...Han Chan said:It is obviously up the prositute to say no - unless she is forced by her pimp!
What bothers me is the attitude of the Japanese to refuse people based on their looks, even if they speak well Japanese. I don't care about soaplands, and not even onsens or nightclubs, as I do not like such places, but it bothers me by principle just to see a sign "no foreigners".It is amasing that the discussion is only about how unfair it would be it some white guys are beeing rejected! Why do no one but myself question wether it is cool to use the services of prostitutes?
CC1 said:So basically everyone here is arguing that Japan is racist because white men can't use their prostitutes...yet no one here admits to having ever used or tried to use a prostitute while in Japan right?
Are there places that exclude foreigners...yes! Do they have that right? Yes! I have in my establishment (not a soapland) a sign, it says that I have the right to refuse service to anyone.
ArmandV said:I really hadn't thought of it, but when I saw that one in Shibuya (and already knowing what they are), I thought about maybe taking a peek inside to see what their facilities were like. From the outside, it seemed pretty clean (I was only able to see as far as (I guess) an anteroom).
Maciamo said:What bothers me is the attitude of the Japanese to refuse people based on their looks, even if they speak well Japanese. I don't care about soaplands, and not even onsens or nightclubs, as I do not like such places, but it bothers me by principle just to see a sign "no foreigners".
I know lots, its very much a case of loud minority, silent majority. Not every single female in Tokyo or Japan for that matter hangs out in nightclubs, doing enjokosei on the side for LV handbags.Maciamo said:A survey showed that Belgians had sex for the first time at age 18 in average. Apart from some seriously inhibited people, who hasn't had sex by age 18 in Japan among today's youth ?
Another thing that people forget is that there are still a lot of places that are "invitation only" - you have to come with a "member", and then maybe next time you can come on your own.Maciamo said:I am not sure that is the point of the argument. My understanding of the debate so far is that soaplands, i.e. establishments/companies, refuse entry (not "using" prostitutes, although the result is the same) to foreigners. I am pretty sure that "independent" prostitutes (at least those outside soaplands or such establishments) do whatever they want and many wouldn't mind having foreign customers.
Ewok85 said:Theres still escort services that basically come to you that foreigners can use if they have the language skills. Theres even a few that specifically cater to English speakers - have a read of this.
Wow -- does anyone else find something wrong in the fact that this guy got his first everything (kiss, shower, lay) all within about 5 minutes of each other? What a first time.Theres still escort services that basically come to you that foreigners can use if they have the language skills. Theres even a few that specifically cater to English speakers - have a read of this.