i understood what you were saying, though i was objectively referring to the overall similitudes of both above mentioned bands. you may be right, 80% of the time they don't sound the same, but we can't ignore the fact of bands cloning visual features in the j-rock scene.
I am saying this, as the visual kei market in Japan grossed a huge slice of the j-rock pie.
And about being a troll: perhaps i am a troll or am just expressing my opinion regarding this topic. A thread should also contain constructive criticism, sustained by arguments (wich i hopefully provided), to highlight wich aspects are more important to the listener (in our case- visual kei- either the visual part or the sound, or lastly both). Being a fan can be tough because of other critical views, but it may be advised to be objective when bringing arguments, wich aren't blinded by subjective, fanatic reasoning.